Topic: BetKing.io is a blatant scam operated by Dean Nolan - page 30. (Read 31310 times)

With cheese you catch mices and with greed you catch dumbasses!

It must be news that Dean Nolan is a scammer?

If it is too difficult to put "betking scam" into google, please pay the price!

i love this guy, jolly, taking trolling to another level. Your persistence is to admired.

The scam betking website was down for over 24 hours before coming back online. Not that it means so much to customers of betking because they are fleeing in droves what was left of them.

What was it that was being peddled at the end of 2018 before the plug was pulled because of lack of funding: "The betking website is being phased out and transitioned in to "bitsafe" with all tokens being called BTSC tokens as we want to move away from the gambling industry"

Nobody in their right mind would help funds $10 million for a scam bitsafe ICO. Scammer Dean Nolan will target newbies and gullible investors but long before that time comes hopefully my case file will be with the law enforcement agencies and scammer Dean Nolan will not be able to scam again.

I was one of the people who participated the competition and to be fair this isn't what I expected from Dean. I was actually confident he would honor his promise for once and handle the competition fairly but instead he goes ahead and cancels the whole thing. As someone who's been around for a long time and seen how Dean handles things, this is by far the closest I have gotten to being screwed by him directly.

I don't believe there was any abuse done at all. Especially because Dean refused to give me any sort of clarification (even privately).

I also believe besece is Dean. He used a similar argument with me that every previous leaderboard has forbidden multi-accounting as well as that pokerstars doesnt reveal how or who abused something to justify his action. Then he told "I don't even know the reason it was cancelled". To me leaving multi-accounting out of the question (which was also not clearly forbidden) leaves very few ways users could actually have cheated.

He also proceeded to say I'm not a legit player for only betting during competitions and investing to "further reduce my edge". It's not my fault he made the competition so ridiculously +EV. Honestly that should already have ringed my bells. He also forgot how I bet $10k on a single bet on his dice game a while back when there was no competition.

That probably doesn't even cover all the reasons why I'm still upset. I thought he would make things right this once. Too much to ask for I guess.

Rant over.

 

This is the PM scammer Dean Nolan just sent me.

The scammer Dean Nolan deletes my posts from his censored betking thread and locks it to stop others posting the truth about betking scam but he sends PMs.

This is the same scammer that did not payout more than 20 BTC to winners of the betking Christmas wager because he did not expect that many people to win and did not expect he would lose out on paying more than 20 BTC so he decided to cancel all bets and not pay the 20+ BTC that was won by betking customers.

Pathetic fool.

Saying "no one lost money" when you canceled a 20 BTC promo and paid out nothing is some next level Trump-like twisted logic right there. Dean takes things so personally and then lies about having "answered" questions when all he replied with was insults towards other people with no substantive details. The lack of self awareness and pragmatism is embarrassing. Dean got blessed with the opportunity of a lifetime, being in *perfect* position to take over the dice market when Dooglus abruptly closed Just-Dice and Dean was the only "known/trusted" person out of a small handful of operating investor-style dice sites, allowing him to explode overnight after struggling for years operating a poker site that no one played at (and had horrible buggy software). After winning the lottery, Dean was again blessed by having his site run at 200% EV and being able to ICO for an amount double what the actual EV was, despite traffic dropping considerably in the ~year leading up to the ICO when people started abandoning his website following many bone-headed and borderline scammy decisions (BAC affiliate comes to mind) and repeatedly trying to sell the website to private buyers (no one offered him much). I'm STILL baffled to this day that his ICO raised as much as it did. I tried vociferously to warn people on here and Reddit they were lighting money on fire. This apparently fell on deaf ears, although I hope it helped as least one person. Bottom line, Dean has operated on the border of being scammy while barely avoiding crossing it for awhile now since the ICO and his business has fallen apart. He was able to extract money from ill-informed investors and scoop up a windfall of ICO profit, but that will likely be the last money grab he will ever be able to make (hopefully people have learned their lesson, but who knows). Dean is a subpar coder and a horrible businessman who lied to ICO investors - or didn't follow through on many promises made in the ICO, if you don't want to say he's a "liar" - and the recent performance of Betking is indicative of that.

Scammer Dean Nolan and his "newbie" friend posting a pro-betking post but make no mention of the more than 20 BTC they scammed out of paying last week in the Christmas wager  

back soon beegman

Here we are after at 6.05pm and well over 24 hours after the scam betking website went down it is still not up and running 

Scammer Dean Nolan has not even updated the now locked betking "official" thread. His last post (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.49036517) was at midnight when he wrote: "Sorry for the delay. We will be back online tomorrow."

Sometimes the scammer Dean Nolan claims he bought back 80% of tokens, sometimes he claims it was 95%. He cannot even get his story straight.

The fact of the matter is scammer Dean Nolan is probably on Skype right now begging the coder from the Philippines to fix the issue but he should never have messed things up by fiddling with the code in the first place when he cannot tell the difference between a line of PHP code from an HTML one.

The image above was a screenshot at 10.38am and the one below is taken at 1.43pm

There will be an announcement in the locked official betking thread stating the "reason" the betking scam website was down for 24 hours, reading the pathetic excuse/lies will be very interesting. He locks the thread to stop people posting, then unlocks to make a post then immediately locks it. Very much a tactic scammer Dean Nolan has employed for a couple of years now since people began questioning his decisions and exposed him as a scammer.

As the screenshots prove along with anybody visiting the website knows it is not because of an imaginary DDoS attack that he claimed last week was carried out by a jealous competitor. The issue is code related to the cheap hosting scammer Dean Nolan pays for.

24 hours after the betking scam website went down the scammer Dean Nolan has made one post 14 hours ago in the locked betking scam thread stating "Sorry for the delay. We will be back online tomorrow." Since then he gave no explanation, no updates, nothing....

Stake or Primedice or Bustabit or Bustadice or any bonafide site would have handled all this differently. Scammer Dean Nolan handled it the only way he knows how to and that is to make himself look like a bigger fool than he did during the previous incident he messed up.

I seriously did not expect this from Dean. Looks like I'm and everyone who invested in BKB or in site are done.

Everything is back on track, Had a doubt for a sec but Dean managed to get things on track. New Betking site has been launched and so far it's looking good. Buy back are happening hourly with profit made on BK.

At 12:07:08 AM scammer Dean Nolan posted: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.49036517

"Sorry for the delay.
We will be back online tomorrow."

Now nearly 12 hours after the post he made in his now locked betking official thread and nearly 24 hours after the scam betking website went down, there is silence from the scammer Dean Nolan about his scam betking website and it is still down.

(let us read his post when posts in his locked scam betking thread to explain why the website was down, we will see if it is as hilarious as the reasons why he refused to pay out over 20 BTC to legitimate winners of Christmas wagers last week)

Would a professional outfit would be so pathetic and so lazy? Would a professional outfit blame his own coding failures on DDoS attacks when it is clear the host website has the error  

So it is clear:

Scammer Dean Nolan did not want to pay 2 BTC for licenced software and blamed... somebody else

Scammer Dean Nolan locked his scam betking thread and blamed... somebody else

Scammer Dean Nolan said two months ago he was leaving the BitcoinTalk forums and would never return and blamed... somebody else

Scammer Dean Nolan returned to BitcoinTalk forums in time to cash-in on Christmas betting and blamed... somebody else

Scammer Dean Nolan did not want to pay over 20 BTC that was won in the Christmas wager and blamed... somebody else

Scammer Dean Nolan basically has zero shame and zero heart. He is a greedy little imbecile that became a scammer and ruined his (and his betking websites) reputation because he went down the scamming road rather than stay on the straight and narrow.

You are quite literally not paying people their winnings, and still haven't offered a reasonable explanation for why you've voided the contest and bets.



Yes. Obviously. You were the one that pirated the software, not me. Even though this is out taken out of context (where I go on to tell you it's best to buy a license, or comply with the terms).  And this directly contradicts statements you repeatedly made Daniel and the CGF and then even publicly:


Blaming me for your piracy for no reason, based on conversations we had in-confidence after the fact. I very clearly never endorsed piracy (just pointed out you could get away with it if Daniel doesn't notice) and several times encouraged you to follow the license. You obviously thought very little of our "friendship" if you were willing to try stab me in the back so easily?


I don't care. I no longer own BaB. It's not my place to care. Almost everyone without fail who pirates copies of BaB ends up failing. Why? Because a gambling business is built upon trust, so by starting with known pirated software it almost guarantees you will never be trusted.  You'll notice yours is falling apart because no one trusts you any more (and can you blame them? The last months you've done nothing but lie and walk back promises).

The only reason I cared about you pirating BaB was because you were going around blaming me (why?!!) and repeatedly saying other falsehoods (e.g. you didn't know) along with a lot of other unethical behavior (e.g. running the pirated version for a week or so to see how well it did before "deciding" to comply with the license, even though Daniel repeatedly told you he was not ok with that that). And then you obfuscated the source (changing stuff like the canvas to an svg) and tried to pretend it was a reimplementation.

I'm sorry, but all that's on you. And all that's behavior by someone hilariously untrustworthy.


[Edit: fixed quote]

As you rightly said scammer Dean Nolan had just two real choices, either pay out 20 BTC = 50% EV or cancel all bets then return all bids placed and revert to "before the wager". He thinks he can give 10% of deductions to participants of the Christmas wager to show he is bonafide and trustworthy? All the evidence suggests (as you correctly pointed out) that he did not want to suffer a huge loss therefore he decided to concoct a story to wriggle out of paying it while still trying to save face.

You might be charitable towards this scammer but I am not, I will not give him the benefit of any doubt as there is no doubt, all evidence clearly shows that Dean Nolan is a serial scammer.

Yes I concur, he scammed betking ICO investors but the list is far more extensive than that. It ranges from scamming everybody from affiliates to customers and everything in between. He continues to sell BKB tokens on his scam betking website without mention of it "closing down and transitioning in to bitsafe exchange with all BKB tokens being converted to bitsafe tokens".

Last month the scammer Dean Nolan failed in his attempt to raise money in a new ICO for his "bitsafe" project. He wanted to raise a whopping $10 million for doing next to nothing. He paid a few hundred dollars US$ to a coder from the Philippines to make a cheap looking website and app for a exchange and the scammer Dean Nolan thinks that justifies a $10 million ICO because he wants to pocket the majority of it by claiming "development " costs.

Keeping in mind how he wriggled out of paying a 2 BTC licence fee for the crash game yet also claimed to give away 1 BTC EVERY DAY to charity or good causes from 1-25 December 2017 makes me think scammer Dean Nolan has psychological issues.

Just read what he posted which led to your replies. The scammer Dean Nolan is an imbecile, a pathetic scammer that got lucky when he fooled people in to parting with $6.5 million in the betking scam ICO. Scammer Dean Nolan has no social skills, he keeps throwing tantrums, is a failed businessman but definitely is a semi-accomplished scammer.

I hope the evidence stacks up against him and the law enforcement agencies speak to him as soon as I contact them with everything I am compiling against this scammer Dean Nolan.

Why did you cancel the contest?

Multi accounting is indeed no reason to cancel contests, because they simply will be removed from the leaderboard!


Participants did not lose the promised prizes?

Not paying promised prizes is called scam in the real world!


Also kind reminder: When did you discover the multi-accounts and how?

Many times I have in this forum and they just get ignored. Look at jolly goods post pattern. Asks questions then when I answer he posts 5 times replying to others so that no one sees my asnwers.


Wrong. Players who won tokens betting sold them for less than buy back rate.
I've not screwed any investors.
First off, investors have had 600 Bitcoin returned to them, from the initial ICO funds.
I own 85% of all tokens now. There are likely 5% held by bounty participants who will never log in to BetKing ever again, but if they do their tokens are there.
Every decision I've made in the past year and a bit has been to the benefit of token holders. Not all of them have been a success but it is still trying.
I've been doing a lot more for investors than any other gambling ICO has done for their token holders.
You don't know what our expenses have been on marketing, promos, developers etc. You just keep making judgments when it's really none of your business. I thought you were retired?


How have they been harmed if they lost no money? That makes zero sense.


You are not trying to be charitable because you know you love the drama. It's why you keep posting in stupid forums when you said you were retired. You love the little amount of fame you get from your fans in here.
Where's your proof of scam? Where are the investors showing that I've lost them money? Where are the players that have lost money? Is that not what the trust system here was meant to be about, proving scams?
You have become the same as any troll here, screaming scam without having proof and not knowing what you are talking about. That is unfortunate. Never met you but we spoke very often and I thought you were a friend that I could trust.

I see you still gave me negative trust when we don't even have the game on site now. We took it down a few days after Daniel said to.
You guys can both say all you want that it was up for a week or more but the fact is that we were still in discussions of what to do and Daniel had allowed this time.
You also know that I was under the legit impression I could use that source. I had no idea about the licence on that original source. I thought it was only the latest one that Daniel sells.
When you saw I was using it you even said "Imao it's the exact source of BaB 1." and I said "is that a problem?"
You then said "You could use it and hope Daniel doesn't notice lol"
Yet I'm in the wrong here yeah?

You've told me about many actual pirated BaB sites and said you don't even bother going after them even when they were making millions of $ yet you jumped straight on BetKing when we had zero players playing in the game?


 

I think it's still not a good move from BK :3, I was join the contest from 24 dec till the end and now the promotion is cancelled...bah, but theres still other honest players, still we lost much time and energy.

I know there was a big balls person joining the competition at the ends (last day) at that time I was got kicked out from BTC,LTC leaderboards and at 6:30 morning (23:30 UTC time) I'm going to the bank and deposit some eth to betking and I think I'm at #3...but..BAH

Yet, you make no attempt of actual clarifying.


Seems kind of irrelevant? You massively screwed BKB holders, I believe some investors were selling their BKB tokens at < 20% of their "buy back" price after you renegged on your promises. Even if a small amount of people were screwed, the fact is you still screwed your investors. (I also have a hard time believing it was an insignificant amount, or why would you even ruin your name over it?)



You do realize that this is a forum? You can post your justification for the pretty insanely drastic action of reverting all the bets and not giving out the promised prizes? Complaining that no one one understands your reasons and refusing to provide them isn't exactly a good look.


I also know you're well-aware you have seriously disadvantaged some players with your bet/prize reversal.  I talked to someone in private who is in this bucket as they should've won a significant amount from the wagering contest. kolloh from this forum (who did post) also appears to have been similarly been harmed.

Considering your should've paid out 20 BTC + 50% EV (??) in prizes, but net player loss during Dec was pretty minor -- it's rather obvious the only reason you did the reversal is because you end up with a lot more money in your pocket than if you didn't.

I'm really trying to be charitable here considering your long history in the bitcoin world, but I have trouble seeing what you're doing as anything other than first scamming investors and now your players. Please correct me if I'm wrong, as I'd really like to be.

Only scammer website operators cancel the whole promotion as and when they want and without a shadow of doubt betking is a scam website and Dean Nolan is a scammer who operates that scam website.

In fairness the winners should have been paid - simple.

Nothing this scammer Dean Nolan says or does can be taken seriously. You have been warning people about him for years but your advice fell on deaf ears because he scammer Dean Nolan was chatting offline on skype to several other gambling/gaming websites and he thought he had a ring of fence around where he could scam the people he wanted to scam (including scamming non-website owners) while at the same time he could portray a persona of a bonafide website operator to stay in their circle pretending to be a model citizen.

Like you, I also have for a long time been warning people about this scammer Dean Nolan and his scam betking website. I hope whatever very little people that are still on that scam betking website stop using it and everybody keeps away from scam betking and anything else scammer Dean Nolan is involved in.