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Topic: BetKing.io is a blatant scam operated by Dean Nolan - page 27. (Read 31064 times)

legendary
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guess who's back
wow just noticed that Dean locked the thread after reading this
well to be honest investors did a terrible mistake when they invested in the terms of $ , they paid crypto and BKB should be valued in BTC or ETH no matter what the fiat price of these currencies are

some money were spent on poker promotion , but aside from adding poker and sportsbetting yeah there is pretty much no progress
but maybe he is planning something for the future who knows ?

I just see it as investors fault for not realizing what they are putting their crypto in

Scammer Dean Nolan throws tantrums and locks threads as per his mood swings.

As we can all see, there was next to nothing in development so the question is where did the funds go?

Scammer Dean Nolan used his once almost excellent reputation to lure in investors but after the scam was exposed along with his recent attempts to dupe RHavar in to buying chunks of betking while lying about the real state of the website and its visitors and the 2018 betking Christmas Wager scam in which winners were not paid over 20 BTC +EV winnings and add to that the cancellation of the quarterly tokens buy-back and with him using the Crash software (belonging to devans) without paying the 2 BTC licence fee - all exposed him to an even larger audience as a serial scammer.



IDK why you are quoting something that I said like one year ago , but yeah things are fishy ( especially the 20 BTC promotion that was cancelled )
I'm not investor and at this stage I don't care about betking at all especially after the way dean replied to me through pm while all I wanted was a better site
I don't care about dice , I only care about sportsbetting the most and a little bit about poker , Dean failed to deliver any of these even both of them should had been available till now ( since this is what his ICO promised )

legendary
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wow just noticed that Dean locked the thread after reading this
well to be honest investors did a terrible mistake when they invested in the terms of $ , they paid crypto and BKB should be valued in BTC or ETH no matter what the fiat price of these currencies are

some money were spent on poker promotion , but aside from adding poker and sportsbetting yeah there is pretty much no progress
but maybe he is planning something for the future who knows ?

I just see it as investors fault for not realizing what they are putting their crypto in

Scammer Dean Nolan throws tantrums and locks threads as per his mood swings.

As we can all see, there was next to nothing in development so the question is where did the funds go?

Scammer Dean Nolan used his once almost excellent reputation to lure in investors but after the scam was exposed along with his recent attempts to dupe RHavar in to buying chunks of betking while lying about the real state of the website and its visitors and the 2018 betking Christmas Wager scam in which winners were not paid over 20 BTC +EV winnings and add to that the cancellation of the quarterly tokens buy-back and with him using the Crash software (belonging to devans) without paying the 2 BTC licence fee - all exposed him to an even larger audience as a serial scammer.

legendary
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Managed to post this after a helper sent it to me (thank you)

Well I guess the betking roadmap was just as pointless as scammer Dean Nolan was himself  Roll Eyes

No apps, no new games, nothing but lies and scams
sr. member
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all these posts by this guy, day in and day out. Wonder what else he got  going on in his life.
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won big at this place and payed out instantly. I will be back


Scammer Dean Nolan is using multi-accounts to return to the forum after he said he would leave.

Beware of betking as investors or as players and avoid scammer Dean Nolan at all costs

 Roll Eyes
legendary
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I wonder who this thread is for?

It's not for ICO token holders. I speak with most of them on Telegram. They understood what they were investing in and know it's not a scam, in fact, many people are happy with the roi so far and the huge improvements being made on the site.

This is just a thread for a bunch of idiots who were not in the ico, have no intention of ever owning tokens, who don't know anything about BetKing or the ICO or how businesses work.

Just people who refused to listen to the answers I gave a hundred times and instead chose to listen to a bitter, jealous moron who has had hatred towards me and BetKing for almost 5 years.

So yeah, the thread is locked due to trolls and people incapable of listening to me. I'll unlock to post updates now and again. Though bitcointalk isn't where we get most our audience so not sure how frequently.

Have fun in here speculating and posting shit you have no clue about. It doesn't affect BetKing or investors.


i joined the ico bounty had your avatar and banner for weeks... sent you a message 2years ago and never got a single reply.


this doesn't make you a scammer ofc. but when you do shady shit like locking the thread "because you don't want to deal with the same questions already asked" it makes you look like one.

you may expect people to dig through old post or find it. but people are not like that, people are lazy and dumb. its called customer service if you don't want to this work hire someone.

but you allowed this doubt to build. i have given you bad reviews to 10+other people just because i was ripped of in the bounty. one message from you and it would have changed that. and you are ignoring hundreds of response because you dont want to deal with it.  so what do you expect their opinion of you is going to be.

your investors may be happy with roi. but they could have alot more earnings, you're harming your own brand, you don't project your self as a professional. and i don't see any future growth for your investors if you continue to act like this.


Scammer Dean Nolan was driven by the greed of instant wealth an ICO would give. He did not care about anything else.
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I'll give you a little challenge.

Provide proof of any scam I or BetKing has been involved with.
BetKing scam

BetKing scam part 5 where you unjustifiably have withdrawn a 20 BTC leaderboard price is not listed yet.

 Grin

Thank you game protect
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I'll give you a little challenge.

Provide proof of any scam I or BetKing has been involved with.
BetKing scam

BetKing scam part 5 where you unjustifiably have withdrawn a 20 BTC leaderboard price is not listed yet.
legendary
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@Betking.io:
What do you make of the comment from SyGambler ? Can you shine some light on the management of poker that ended up costing the site loads of money ?
I have some experience in gambling management (IRL not online) but i have a hard time to see how a poker site can lose a lot of money ?
I can picture it for a sportsbook (especially when you have low volume, it does bring high volatility). But for a poker site, i have a hard time figuring it out.


He posted the pm I sent him. That answers the question.
Again, people making assumptions about things they have no idea about.
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@Betking.io:
What do you make of the comment from SyGambler ? Can you shine some light on the management of poker that ended up costing the site loads of money ?
I have some experience in gambling management (IRL not online) but i have a hard time to see how a poker site can lose a lot of money ?
I can picture it for a sportsbook (especially when you have low volume, it does bring high volatility). But for a poker site, i have a hard time figuring it out.
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Well, this is an argumentation i can get behind. Factual elements and proportionate analysis.
And i agree with you. The man is not a good manager, behave in a childish manner to criticism, but he ain't no blattant scammer.
Reading this JollyGood ?
legendary
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lol now dean started deleting my posts , I seriously used to enjoy betting on sports with betking but since the day he announced the 20 BTC promotion thing I knew he wouldn't pay it and if you check the thread you would see that I questioned it right after he made it
cause according to him site didn't afford poker and sportsbetting , but somehow the site was ready to pay 20 btc in rewards even they  knew that no one will ever wager if it wasn't massive  +EV

now he is  simply deleting my posts after I said facts about poker and how bad he managed the game , he is now attacking anyone who is even questioning the site

this was the post
haven't been up to date with betking news since you removed the sportsbook , glad to see some updates going on ( hopefully for the good of site )

is there any future plans for the site ? what about sportsbetting and poker ? is there any chance you might bring them back in the future or you aren't planning for that ?

Poker and sportsbook cost us a LOT of money last year and we can't add those back without having a huge amount of traffic and liquidity unfortunately.
We will be adding other games back though as well as new ones.

We also started providing a service for other sites to setup their own casinos where we provide and host the software.
If anyone here is interested in that email [email protected]
We trialled the service with a few sites in this forum that had good feedback and now ready to open to others.

Poker didn't cost you a lot of money , you just had insane rewards in the weekly leaderboards so you were giving away more than what the site is raking
with that money offered you could easily had smaller freerolls that would attract new players , and these players ( even they are freerollers ) they can make the site and chat way more active ( this will attract real players )

and I'm sure you can figure out a way to have sportsbetting without losing a lot of money , there are tons of sites around and they are all making profit


he deleted the post and sent me this , which totally shows me how professional he is really

"Poker didn't cost you a lot of money "
Sorry, I must have totally forgot that you worked for BetKing?

How can you try and claim you know how much poker cost us?
You know how much all the ad campaign cost yeah?
The promos? The prop players? The tournaments, the licence fees, the setup costs and the developer costs to integrate everything?
What about design and banners?

Don't post opinions as facts about other peoples businesses when you don't know the details.


for reference site was using a cheap damn provider , i don't even know what tournaments he is talking about since I don't even remember betking having a single tournament
ad campaignn ? yeah sure that was really costy especially looking how the site is doing

all I said is that the weekly leaderboard what made poker unprofitable , and it's a fact !! I don't know a single poker site that doesn't offer GTD tourneys and don't offer fixed weekly leaderboard that went broke


he kept whining about how sharp sportsbettors made the site lose money , but he kept lowering the margin and posting about how the odds are good in betking IDK how he was expecting to make money after all with that !! sure let's just blame profitable gamblers and close the whole sportsbetting thing as well making betking the shittiest ever project for investors with nothing new at all !!

since the day he announce the 20 BTC thing I lost trust in the site , cause I 100% knew he won't pay that shit

with such acts I don't even know how anyone will be using his site , he is obviously a horrible manager
I haven't seen a single good thing about betking for investors , cause according to dean everything is not profitable

with such acts IDK how he will get any players
legendary
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Yeah, the 20BTC promotion was not paid out due to cheating that never occurred. He obviously just didn't make enough profits so didn't pay it out and choose to refund people's losses as it was the cheaper option.

I haven't seen cases of outright scamming, but I certainly wouldn't believe any promotions or other promises BetKing makes.
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I'm very disapointed in your reaction. I confronted that dean fella in the chat of his own site. I'm no particular friend of his, no shill or anything of the sort.
I'm trying to make an educated opinion by comparing facts and evidence of scam.
I do see the 20BTC promotion being not paid out, however, i do believe that all participant got refunded. So no one got fleeced of any money. Should anybody have not been reimbursed of their wager, i would see things in a different light, as it would be factual evidence that he scammed people.
Again i see bad decisions, but no scamming per se.
If anybody has actually lost their own money due to shady functioning of the site, please come forward.
If not, I can only come to the conclusion that your crusade is unholy.
And to be honest, your reaction is childish at best. I doubt you, as i doubt dean. I don't imply you're wrong, and i don't imply i'm right.
Don't confuse disagreement with judgement.
I only judge based on facts. Not on interpretation.
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I have scammer Dean Nolan on IGNORE so cannot read posts made by his "JollyGood$WhereMouthis" multi-user account but he is around.

Scammer Dean Nolan is begging people to make positive posts about the betking scam in order to receive bounties but the scammer Dean Nolan does not post here himself   Grin





I'm getting really skeptical on your case about Betking.
It's the same bounties you find for signatures or things like that here. He asks for a review. Not a positive review as you claim. Your way of twisting things are unsettling.
I do see bad management, I do see bad decisions. But i don't see someone who shut down the site as you sugest he would have done when price goes down (cf your first post of this thread)
Also, I have some problems understanding the trust rating on this site. How come some posters have like -4000 reputation ? Am i suppose to trust them ? I don't get it.
Point some real factual evidence for me please. If you can't help, then you're probably part of the problem.

I have you on IGNORE now. I gave you the benefit of the doubt even though I was sure this would be the response from you.

Make sure you claim your "bounty" from your friend Dean  Roll Eyes

How is it possible winners of 20 BTC +EV were scammed out of their wins in December 2018 betking Christmas wager yet this user is skeptical?
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I have scammer Dean Nolan on IGNORE so cannot read posts made by his "JollyGood$WhereMouthis" multi-user account but he is around.

Scammer Dean Nolan is begging people to make positive posts about the betking scam in order to receive bounties but the scammer Dean Nolan does not post here himself   Grin





I'm getting really skeptical on your case about Betking.
It's the same bounties you find for signatures or things like that here. He asks for a review. Not a positive review as you claim. Your way of twisting things are unsettling.
I do see bad management, I do see bad decisions. But i don't see someone who shut down the site as you sugest he would have done when price goes down (cf your first post of this thread)
Also, I have some problems understanding the trust rating on this site. How come some posters have like -4000 reputation ? Am i suppose to trust them ? I don't get it.
Point some real factual evidence for me please. If you can't help, then you're probably part of the problem.
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I have scammer Dean Nolan on IGNORE so cannot read posts made by his "JollyGood$WhereMouthis" multi-user account but he is around.

Scammer Dean Nolan is begging people to make positive posts about the betking scam in order to receive bounties but the scammer Dean Nolan does not post here himself   Grin

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Liar JollyGood Has a personal Vendetta against Dean Nolan ( Maybe sore loser in past?)
Liar Jollygood is a Liar and a projector

Take note on the liars name "Jollygood" this is projecting because in fact he is unhappyevil.
Liar UnhappyEvil, Aka" Jollygood" is a schmuck troll who claims lies as facts and ignores evidence that suggest his lies are lies.
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I have scammer Dean Nolan on IGNORE so cannot read posts made by his "JollyGood$WhereMouthis" multi-user account but he is around.

Scammer Dean Nolan is begging people to make positive posts about the betking scam in order to receive bounties but the scammer Dean Nolan does not post here himself   Grin



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My research has proved fruitful. Care to enlighten me ? what's the big cause for concern here ?
Any bets not being paid ? Any hard evidence of scamming practices ?

I will not provide any other links to you as there is enough evidence against the scammer in this forum and your claim of fruitful research is evidently fruitless. Read the post in the link, what was promised and then read further posts to see how it was avoided being paid by scammer Dean Nolan: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.48860713





[ ] Proof

You're a pathetic little man. NO scam was done, people made poor investment and were sold a bad deal, people made the same investment mistake on bitcoin. The promo was canceled due to cheating, people who lost crypto prior to the event of finding the cheating they were refunded what they lost. No scam was made, your filled with hate let it go.
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My research has proved fruitful. Care to enlighten me ? what's the big cause for concern here ?
Any bets not being paid ? Any hard evidence of scamming practices ?

I will not provide any other links to you as there is enough evidence against the scammer in this forum and your claim of fruitful research is evidently fruitless. Read the post in the link, what was promised and then read further posts to see how it was avoided being paid by scammer Dean Nolan: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.48860713



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