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Topic: Betnomi 🏆 Truly Decentralized Betting/Gambling Platform 🏆 - page 6. (Read 2383 times)

sr. member
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All we ask for is objectivity and we greatly appreciate yours. Anyone who is objective and will actually look into our project for a second will immediately come to the conclusion we are legit and our platform is running on a transparent provably fair RNG. Regarding the issues in the past, we initially wanted to to raise funds for our project through an ICO which we canceled due to some complications and decided to self fund the project. The summary of what happened regarding the ICO was, the project Adviser was trying to extort money from us which of course we refused and he then spread negative comments about our project.  I gave an extensive explanation to what exactly happened on page two (2) of this thread.  You can review it.

Thanks.

Only time will redeem you from past issues. If you will continue this project, expect more issues to be thrown at your project. But if you are sincere and want to move forward, you will address every single problem that your player will encounter on your gambling platform. And gaining players right now would be your challenge as they are still having negative impression from your past issues. Also, since you have gambling license already, one thing you can do also is run a sig campaign maybe and hire known reputable BM here. Maybe they will change their outlook towards your platform.

edit : Nice, you are running a review campaign under yahoo. He is a trusted BM here. Smart choice.  Wink Good luck!
copper member
Activity: 740
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Bookmaker focused on cryptocurrency
All we ask for is objectivity and we greatly appreciate yours. Anyone who is objective and will actually look into our project for a second will immediately come to the conclusion we are legit and our platform is running on a transparent provably fair RNG. Regarding the issues in the past, we initially wanted to to raise funds for our project through an ICO which we canceled due to some complications and decided to self fund the project. The summary of what happened regarding the ICO was, the project Adviser was trying to extort money from us which of course we refused and he then spread negative comments about our project.  I gave an extensive explanation to what exactly happened on page two (2) of this thread.  You can review it.

Thanks.
hero member
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I am objective in this situation. I try to look at the facts. If there are problems in the past related to the owner of the site, it can of course cause the problems / suspicion.
It is therefore important to clarify such matters clearly.
Maybe you can explain what exactly was the problem with the previous link of the product you offered, because now it seems that there is a direct connection between the owner of your site and the previous project.
Trust is very important to online gamblers.
 In any case, it is good that you respond to the forum here, people will certainly appreciate that.
That is also the best way to gain trust from people. Information does not say everything, of course, but the story must be well-founded with arguments.
copper member
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Bookmaker focused on cryptocurrency
I've seen sites like this before. If you want us to provide this site with the necessary feedback and give it a fair chance, I think it is also necessary to provide transparency about the current structure.
If we do an investigation into the company Radeon B.V. then we see that this company owns multiple sites. This can indicate a large organization, but can also indicate a White Label construction.
Betnomi: Can you clarify this?
I think customers also want to build in a certain security before they decide to deposit and play with their funds.

Yes, so far, it seems you are the only person who did some work and have a real question. Our project is more on the side of a white label product.
This company under which we operate has been in business for more than 15 years, they created the platform and maintain it, etc. 
We do not have anything to do with the outcome of the games, the company is time tested and has multiple RNG certifications. Unless some of you guys want to accuse them of being a scam as well, everything is legit!  About the plagiarism charge being raised again, it's been three different times I have to address that on this thread alone! Either he can't read or have no knowledge of what is being discussed here. in that case, he can go pound sand.  Talking about Fiverr and all. Cheesy Looks to me like some people are close-minded and will never listen or give any thought to explanations. They just want to scream scam and I don't blame them either, I will presume they are incapable of comprehending simple sentences.
And thank you for doing your research before asking questions, dang! wish everyone was like you.


hero member
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I've seen sites like this before. If you want us to provide this site with the necessary feedback and give it a fair chance, I think it is also necessary to provide transparency about the current structure.
If we do an investigation into the company Radeon B.V. then we see that this company owns multiple sites. This can indicate a large organization, but can also indicate a White Label construction.
Betnomi: Can you clarify this?
I think customers also want to build in a certain security before they decide to deposit and play with their funds.
legendary
Activity: 2688
Merit: 1262
There is no plagiarism being done here! We did not write the content on the website. As I said, the platform is provided by a reputable third party who has been in this business for over 15 years. They have many other clients. That which you see is one of their default templates and moreover, that content is not supposed to be available for public viewing as of now. Our sportsbook and casino is being set up on that page. These, I have addressed in the previous comments. Your plagiarism charge is simply a conjecture. You guys we welcome to ask any questions and demand answers. Scrutinize our project as much as you can. I am here to answer and provide all forms of documentation where applicable. I just kindly request all you not to level charges which have no basis.
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Well, we don't have any problem/care which service u gonna use for describing/design your project/platform.

But ur responsibility to check all the results & data from ur third parties service, to make sure the data and design not used by other services/platforms before going to public did not just accept it the result just because you have money. In here/project was really strict about plagiarism, we don't really care the reason ur using third parties/some service fiver or something like that. But went the content has been released to the public and have the same contains with other projects/platforms we marked as shady, plagiarism and other no matter what reason ur gonna to explain. IMO third parties who have an experiment for more than 15 years using the same design and content for every gambling who have used their service, for me they experiment just by word not the result.

Goodluck.
sr. member
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First of all, this account is over a year now. We are not trying to hide behind anything. Admittedly. we had some issues with our account in the past. A fake person will create a new identity to start something else but no, we are real and legit. We are sticking to our account and identity and we will correct all previous issues we had in the past. We learned from those experience and we are trying to do something better and useful as you can see.
I tend to agree with you on it, so let's do your best to prove the security of your platform  Wink Negative feedback in the past cannot be deleted, you should bring it and work, as long as you are good, those things will be ignored in the future.
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A crypto-based betting platform should not require too much information. It should be minimalist, the missing information is user name, password, email and numberphone. Please ignore all remaining information if you can. Address of residence is information that no one wants to provide. It must be removed  Wink

It's very hard to regain the trust lost by the platform so it requires extensive work by the team to regain trust and a lot of patience. It's not the easy road ahead since there are a lot of other good platforms as an alternative. They need to offer better services to regain the userbase and trust which will occur slowly
copper member
Activity: 740
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Bookmaker focused on cryptocurrency
It's very hard to regain the trust lost by the platform so it requires extensive work by the team to regain trust and a lot of patience. It's not the easy road ahead since there are a lot of other good platforms as an alternative. They need to offer better services to regain the userbase and trust which will occur slowly


We are determine to prove the legitimacy, fairness and superiority of our platform. How much ever long it takes, we will put in the effort to gain trust from the community and grow our user base. We are constantly learning, adapting and improving our platform to deliver an excellent service and an amazing user experience.
All suggestions and recommendations and welcome.

Thanks.

copper member
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Bookmaker focused on cryptocurrency
We appreciate your kind words and we will work tirelessly to make this a big success.
Thank you all for the support.
sr. member
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The system itself is built to keep players pretty Anonymous like mixing or hashing the players email address/ username but the KYC requirement for withdrawal is not
idea considering this is a casino. Believe me, this is being addressed right now and will be taken care of.

Thanks.
Well, I mentioned this in my previous post on the first page that most likely gamblers here are always wanted anonymous account and they will not reveal their identity in most casinos. Your KYC requirements are too much and perhaps email address verification pretty good enough as a document to register your platform.
Indeed, I hope that your endeavor is a way to become your company successful and you can overcome these trials now. Legitimately is a must of this forum and you can't blame people here.
copper member
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Bookmaker focused on cryptocurrency
It is true that having campaigns doesn't mean it's legit. Base on previous reply many people don't like creating an account with so many information needed. They will prefer to gamble on a proven legit and also creating an account doesn't need so much personal details and keep the players anonymously.

I am aware of this issue, this was one of the first concern i raised with the platform provider.
The system itself is built to keep players pretty Anonymous like mixing or hashing the players email address/ username but the KYC requirement for withdrawal is not
idea considering this is a casino. Believe me, this is being addressed right now and will be taken care of.

Thanks.

hero member
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It is true that having campaigns doesn't mean it's legit. Base on previous reply many people don't like creating an account with so many information needed. They will prefer to gamble on a proven legit and also creating an account doesn't need so much personal details and keep the players anonymously.
copper member
Activity: 740
Merit: 337
Bookmaker focused on cryptocurrency
I think you are stupid! Do you know what a phishing campaign is? Look at the platform does it look like something that is designed to scam?
It cost thousands of dollars to develop and maintain. You have no idea what you are talking about. You are being paid by some other casino and doing their bidding.
We do not need people like you here, there are multiple people playing on our platform and not even one of them is complaining about anything!
This kind of behavior will prove detrimental to you op. You guys have been part of a scam in the past whether you accept it or not and criticism is expected which is why it would be better to focus on addressing the issues rather than shouting at every other person who criticizes you.

What requirements are you trying to eliminate with the platform provider? Is the documents that you require users to submit? If so, why ask the platform provider and not go directly to the licensing authorities?
This whole KYC requirement is stupid since there are much better alternatives out there which don't require KYC. Betnomi needs to remove this condition asap.


We are talking with the platform provider to eliminate the entire KYC requirements, and nope, we can not go directly to the licensing authorities because we obtained our license through the platform provider based on their RNG and other licensing requirements. The platform provider makes these calls not us. That one good reason to understand our platform is legit. We no not control the games and its results. Unless you want to say a company with over 3000 employees and been in this business for over 15 years is a scam.
copper member
Activity: 740
Merit: 337
Bookmaker focused on cryptocurrency
There is no plagiarism being done here! We did not write the content on the website. As I said, the platform is provided by a reputable third party who has been in this business for over 15 years. They have many other clients. That which you see is one of their default templates and moreover, that content is not supposed to be available for public viewing as of now. Our sportsbook and casino is being set up on that page. These, I have addressed in the previous comments. Your plagiarism charge is simply a conjecture. You guys we welcome to ask any questions and demand answers. Scrutinize our project as much as you can. I am here to answer and provide all forms of documentation where applicable. I just kindly request all you not to level charges which have no basis.

I am Sorsis, the co-founder of the project. The idea that we had a "Fake Team" is completely absurd. There were five people on our team at the time and 3 of these people, no one is questioning their identity because they have verified profiles including myself.  Only two were in question and being labeled as a fake team. So, your charge is, we had three legit people and 2 fake people?  dumb right?   Smiley

One of those people was the "Adviser" for our project. We signed an agreement and agreed to pay him a specific amount. After our project launched, and all the profile was published ICO trackers which of course he agreed to, He demanded a substantial increase in his payments which I rejected. Because of this, he opted out of the team and claimed we used his profile without authorization. Funny enough, I have all records of the signed agreement and communications with him.

The second fake person, who was one of our developers from Pakistan, had a pretty bad image and our team decided to make some adjustments to make to look a little acceptable. But, This was no fake team. Everyone on the team is a real person and our project is legit.
I will admit we did some pretty sloppy job with our canceled ICO but, that was all it was sloppy, not scammy.

Thank you guys all for reading and will address any further concerns or comments.
legendary
Activity: 2688
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[1]I think you are stupid! Do you know what a phishing campaign is? Look at the platform does it look like something that is designed to scam?
It cost thousands of dollars to develop and maintain. You have no idea what you are talking about. [2]You are being paid by some other casino and doing their bidding.
[3]We do not need people like you here, there are multiple people playing on our platform and not even one of them is complaining about anything!
[1]Thousand of dolar?

Kinda joke for me, now explain to us why u copy-paste other casino word from "Suprabet" and a few casinos have the same word as you.

According to who.is information suprabet was registered in 2016, so basically they the first then you:

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Domain Name: SUPRABETS.COM
Registry Domain ID: 2057624394_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.domain.com
Registrar URL: http://www.domain.com
Updated Date: 2018-08-17T09:37:27Z
Creation Date: 2016-09-06T18:06:06Z
Registry Expiry Date: 2023-09-06T18:06:06Z
Registrar: Domain.com, LLC
Registrar IANA ID: 886
Registrar Abuse Contact Email: [email protected]
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: 602-226-2389
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited https://icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited
Domain Status: clientUpdateProhibited https://icann.org/epp#clientUpdateProhibited
Name Server: HANK.NS.CLOUDFLARE.COM
Name Server: LILY.NS.CLOUDFLARE.COM
DNSSEC: unsigned

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Quote from: Suprabet
24/7
 Suprabets.com provides 24/7 online betting availability by taking bets on all major and most minor leagues, cups and tournaments in a wide variety of sports and competitions throughout the world.

Quote from: Suprabet
Suprabets.com accepts wagers on more than 50 categories of sports and events - not only the most popular sports, but also poker, politics, TV and e-sports such as Star Craft, DOTA 2.

Copy-paste :
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Betnomi.com provides 24/7 online betting availability by taking bets on all major and most minor leagues, cups and tournaments in a wide variety of sports and competitions throughout the world.

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Betnomi.com accepts wagers on more than 50 categories of sports and events - not only the most popular sports, but also poker, politics, TV and e-sports such as Star Craft, DOTA 2.

Thats one of the example, "300 Trader" and "Reliable" content probably copy-paste too.

Spending thousands of dollars just a copy-paste word? God sake.

[2]We are telling the reality, with the proof.

Now you have another problem "Trust" and "Plagiarism" content.

[3]Cause you new, and trying to gain trust, so more user can get bait by you.

The strategy could be the same as Ponzi scheme, went they offering a Ponzi service offering a percentage returns they will pay first making them sound legit. After the fund they already collected already enough, they running out away with the money.

With this case, a fake team + plagiarism did everyone still trust you?

That's my last comment about this, it seems like they already don't have a single word/prove to defend themself because of that they now trying accusing other people.

Edit : Now u have the same design web like the oldest theme from vbet?



Still telling a thousand dollar website ?
legendary
Activity: 2128
Merit: 1775
We are saying that if a fraudulent project, nothing can help it. It is a conditional clause, that is if.
No one trusts them on gambling sites especially their betting platform BETNOMI.

Everyone can talk nonsense here, when their money is gone and drained, BETNOMI is at high risk.

Topic: [SCAM] BETNOMI - Fake team, ID and Linkedin used without owner authorizations

facebook.com

Maybe, just a fool who wants to throw away his money at gambling sites, betnomi.
Fake teams don't imagine that all your money can be drained within seconds if you bet on their platform site.

Find a gambling betting platform that is safe for you.
hero member
Activity: 1372
Merit: 783
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I think you are stupid! Do you know what a phishing campaign is? Look at the platform does it look like something that is designed to scam?
It cost thousands of dollars to develop and maintain. You have no idea what you are talking about. You are being paid by some other casino and doing their bidding.
We do not need people like you here, there are multiple people playing on our platform and not even one of them is complaining about anything!
Why are you upset with us? We are saying that if a fraudulent project, nothing can help it. It is a conditional clause, that is if. What you need to do is provide documents and evidence to prove it. Have you done that? If you think you will always have customers without proving you here, it will be a big mistake for you. In fact, since you've got the wound here, be wise to make the wound fade
hero member
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I think you are stupid! Do you know what a phishing campaign is? Look at the platform does it look like something that is designed to scam?
It cost thousands of dollars to develop and maintain. You have no idea what you are talking about. You are being paid by some other casino and doing their bidding.
We do not need people like you here, there are multiple people playing on our platform and not even one of them is complaining about anything!
This kind of behavior will prove detrimental to you op. You guys have been part of a scam in the past whether you accept it or not and criticism is expected which is why it would be better to focus on addressing the issues rather than shouting at every other person who criticizes you.

What requirements are you trying to eliminate with the platform provider? Is the documents that you require users to submit? If so, why ask the platform provider and not go directly to the licensing authorities?
This whole KYC requirement is stupid since there are much better alternatives out there which don't require KYC. Betnomi needs to remove this condition asap.
legendary
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https://bitcoincleanup.com/
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About the documents and other such details, this are required by the licensing authorities. Currently, we are only accepting cryptocurrencies for the platform and we are working with the platform provider to eliminate these requirements in the next few days.
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What requirements are you trying to eliminate with the platform provider? Is the documents that you require users to submit? If so, why ask the platform provider and not go directly to the licensing authorities?

Since you are currently accepting cryptocurrencies only, does your current withdrawal policy applies? It appears that what's written there are for fiat/card transactions.

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29.1 Payments are processed in a time not exceeding 72 hours starting from the moment that the request was made. Before the first payment will be made to the User by electronic payment methods (Skrill, credit or debit card, etc.), the client is obliged to attach an electronic copy of a passport to the Documents section to confirm their identity. Remember that forgery is severely punished by law, and in cases of suspicion of placing a counterfeit or an edited copy of the documents by electronic methods, Betnomi reserves the right to send such documents to the appropriate regulatory authorities.

But if it applies to the above, do you not plan on relaxing those policies a bit? Like setting a minimum withdrawal/deposit before requiring KYC verification?
copper member
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Bookmaker focused on cryptocurrency
I think you are stupid! Do you know what a phishing campaign is? Look at the platform does it look like something that is designed to scam?
It cost thousands of dollars to develop and maintain. You have no idea what you are talking about. You are being paid by some other casino and doing their bidding.
We do not need people like you here, there are multiple people playing on our platform and not even one of them is complaining about anything!



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