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Topic: Betnomi 🏆 Truly Decentralized Betting/Gambling Platform 🏆 - page 7. (Read 2367 times)

hero member
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In the meantime manager will lose his reputation too. So i don't think that any well reputated manager will love to manage any fraudulent platforms signature campaign.
No no, you misunderstood me. I'm talking about the impact of the signature campaign on the credibility of a platform, if it's a scam platform, there's no impact here.
They even not make a single comment on the scam assumption for more than 1 year.
They had here
First of all, this account is over a year now. We are not trying to hide behind anything. Admittedly. we had some issues with our account in the past. A fake person will create a new identity to start something else but no, we are real and legit. We are sticking to our account and identity and we will correct all previous issues we had in the past. We learned from those experience and we are trying to do something better and useful as you can see.

Both case is different. BestChange was criticized due to escrow find and we told we should have remove tag when they will pay accordingly. Regarding other accusations they are friendly enough to solve them. But BETNOMI used fake team and they was failed to provide appropriate evidence to proof their legitimacy. So either they run signature campaign or not the fact will never change. I have doubts that any reputed manager will handle their campaign and probably DT members will prevent them to run campaign is they like to run by themselves. Also I believe theymos wouldn't accept their auction if they like to use forum banner ads as well.
We meet in this thought  Cheesy The signature campaign will never work for a phishing campaign, the case he gave is asymmetric to compare.
legendary
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Signature space for rent
So why gamblers should choose your platform since there is lots of legit platforms exist?
I cannot answer your question but I have another question. If everyone is focused on the big casinos then who will be the customers for the new casinos? (I'm talking about the real casinos).
Your question isn't appropriate regarding this casino. We should welcome new casino if they are legit. But when there will some red flags on a casino which is very important then we should avoid it. Their red flag is very clear and they have punished for it. That's the reason why I have asked this question.

In certain cases, signature campaigns can turn things around. For example, Bestchange was criticized heavily initially and had many neg ratings, but they turned that around in a short period thanks to their own hard work and dedication. I doubt the same will happen in this case though.
Both case is different. BestChange was criticized due to escrow find and we told we should have remove tag when they will pay accordingly. Regarding other accusations they are friendly enough to solve them. But BETNOMI used fake team and they was failed to provide appropriate evidence to proof their legitimacy. So either they run signature campaign or not the fact will never change. I have doubts that any reputed manager will handle their campaign and probably DT members will prevent them to run campaign is they like to run by themselves. Also I believe theymos wouldn't accept their auction if they like to use forum banner ads as well.
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That was said by @Coolcryptovator is an "legit" casino platform, including big or small casinos. What he wants to tell is, we have a lot of casino big and small casino with a legit reputation and legality, why we should use this casino, went this casino has a bad trust of their platform.
Even if the casino decide to use their own identity, I still don't want to use their platform.

We have addressed these issues on the previous page. For some reason, almost everyone just kept spewing exact same thing because they have seen someone else say something similar. It will be helpful and save everyone's time if, you would take the time to read previous comments before making one. We are a legit, registered, regulated and licensed casino. Its been over a year one since we first launched our project. Please point one person who said we scammed them. No one ever said we scammed them and you know why, because we never did. Just screaming something is a scam doesn't make it one.  We are a small team trying to build something meaningful and worthwhile from the ground up. You can either support us which we will greatly appreciate or don't. But what we don't appreciate is making baseless and mindless accusations.
legendary
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No, I just received a message, they said they could provide any evidence I need to prove that their platform is good. I told them to post them here, so I came here to give the information I had, and waited for their documents. I do not help them in any way. I just do what I should do - request public information here.
I bet they can't prove it.

They even not make a single comment on the scam assumption for more than 1 year.

So why gamblers should choose your platform since there is lots of legit platforms exist?
If everyone is focused on the big casinos then who will be the customers for the new casinos? (I'm talking about the real casinos). The search for new casinos is also a good idea, because it gives new casinos the opportunity to compete and thrive, of course new casinos also need something special to compete.
That was said by @Coolcryptovator is an "legit" casino platform, including big or small casinos. What he wants to tell is, we have a lot of casino big and small casino with a legit reputation and legality, why we should use this casino, went this casino has a bad trust of their platform.

Even if the casino decide to use their own identity, I still don't want to use their platform.
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They think that running a signature campaign will forgive all their past issues just like that.
Maybe its a thinking of their own but in real sense its not so easy to erase their past doings. In some cases they may get some users for a shorter period but people will not be interested to use their platform for long time. Trust is always a big fact on any kinda business and its hard to achieve.

The signature campaign will have no impact if the platform is fraudulent, such as Kawbet and 1xbet.
Kawbet have already closed their campaign after raising proper accusation against their platform. In that situation kawbet campaign manager confessed that he wasn’t notify about kawbet connection with 1xbet. Before taking the management work of any signature campaign every manager should know detail about that platform and their legality. If any manager starts to manage the campaign after knowing that existing platform is not fair with users or have previous scam records then its nothing but encouraging them to continue their scam game.

In the meantime manager will lose his reputation too. So i don't think that any well reputated manager will love to manage any fraudulent platforms signature campaign.
hero member
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In certain cases, signature campaigns can turn things around. For example, Bestchange was criticized heavily initially and had many neg ratings, but they turned that around in a short period thanks to their own hard work and dedication. I doubt the same will happen in this case though.
No, it is not. May I digress. You are misunderstanding. The case of Bestchange is different. I have asked about Bestchange before, they are a reputable website that has operated for a long time, not a new platform. The Bestchange issue revolves around their russian website with a similar domain. This sparked suspicion, after which it was resolved and most of the negative beliefs were removed. Bestchange is reputable + an extensive signature campaign, so it was interested. The signature campaign will have no impact if the platform is fraudulent, such as Kawbet and 1xbet.
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Running Signature campaign or any other huge promotion doesn't prove your legitimacy. I have doubts any reputed manager will take over your campaign and put them on risk. Before running campaigns or hire reputed managers you should remove red tag from your profile. I have seen I was the first DT member who have left negative feedback on your profile for use fake team. After a year you back again with your platform.
They think that running a signature campaign will forgive all their past issues just like that. If some manager actually agreed and if posters advertised it around the forum, it would basically be Yobit all over again causing issues for both the manager and the posters.

In certain cases, signature campaigns can turn things around. For example, Bestchange was criticized heavily initially and had many neg ratings, but they turned that around in a short period thanks to their own hard work and dedication. I doubt the same will happen in this case though.
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Stay away from this site and users
This guy has been accused of fraud with a fake project, fake team and more, check out his trust about the evidence of fraud. With a site like this, I believe people will be at a high risk of losing money if they make any transactions. The site looks nice but it is deceptive, careful. Don't waste any of your money here  Undecided
Opening a brand-new copper member account and promoting the new betting platform will be their best alternative. I agree with you, the transparent team will think every aspect of the marketing seriously. Exit scam is loading...

First of all, this account is over a year now. We are not trying to hide behind anything. Admittedly. we had some issues with our account in the past. A fake person will create a new identity to start something else but no, we are real and legit. We are sticking to our account and identity and we will correct all previous issues we had in the past. We learned from those experience and we are trying to do something better and useful as you can see.
Nice! TBH, I want to believe in your legitimacy and transparency, otherwise there is no meaning to debate the same issues over and over. Hope the trust issues will be cleared in the near future and you will be able to run a decent campaigns in the forum. Doing the first step is always hard part.
hero member
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So the team decided to ask u to help them to verification all the data from them.

I few questions for you, did you have the ability to make due diligence:
  • Checking license gambling.
  • The legality of the company
  • And other all forms of requirements regarding gambling & casino legality.

I asking this question, based on your activity with "Last Thread Created" by you. I don't see a single thread/experience, busted a scam project that's why it's kinda worrying you can't really check the authenticity of the legality.

I mean we all know their slogan about "Decentralized Betting Casino" is not really decentralized since they still handle all money of the customer like winning and withdrawal also they need KYC too. If they want to do it a gambling system same like their slogan, sure they making a smart contract betting went all betting running automatically on the smart contract.
No, I just received a message, they said they could provide any evidence I need to prove that their platform is good. I told them to post them here, so I came here to give the information I had, and waited for their documents. I do not help them in any way. I just do what I should do - request public information here.
In terms of decentralization and KYC, I think someone has asked to remove that information above, I think it is not difficult to edit the title.
So why gamblers should choose your platform since there is lots of legit platforms exist?
I cannot answer your question but I have another question. If everyone is focused on the big casinos then who will be the customers for the new casinos? (I'm talking about the real casinos). The search for new casinos is also a good idea, because it gives new casinos the opportunity to compete and thrive, of course new casinos also need something special to compete.
legendary
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Guys, can we please talk about that topic after the most important issue is solved?
So the team decided to ask u to help them to verification all the data from them.

I few questions for you, did you have the ability to make due diligence:
  • Checking license gambling.
  • The legality of the company
  • And other all forms of requirements regarding gambling & casino legality.

I asking this question, based on your activity with "Last Thread Created" by you. I don't see a single thread/experience, busted a scam project that's why it's kinda worrying you can't really check the authenticity of the legality.

I mean we all know their slogan about "Decentralized Betting Casino" is not really decentralized since they still handle all money of the customer like winning and withdrawal also they need KYC too. If they want to do it a gambling system same like their slogan, sure they making a smart contract betting went all betting running automatically on the smart contract.
legendary
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Yes, we will be running a huge signature and other ad campaign very soon.
~snip~
Our team in currently in communication with some of the best managers here to create and manage these campaigns.
Running Signature campaign or any other huge promotion doesn't prove your legitimacy. I have doubts any reputed manager will take over your campaign and put them on risk. Before running campaigns or hire reputed managers you should remove red tag from your profile. I have seen I was the first DT member who have left negative feedback on your profile for use fake team. After a year you back again with your platform.

Still I don't believe your platform because there isn't enough reason to. On the other hand I believe who will put money on your platform they will be at on risk. So why gamblers should choose your platform since there is lots of legit platforms exist?
hero member
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I was reading through the post to understand why you call yours "truly decentralized" but found nothing.
How about Provable fair by the way? You didn't mention that and I assume a truly decentralized betting platform should have it.
What does "coefficient" in the game mean?
No offense guys,,, but a truly decentralized operation does not have an operator. I would say it is almost impossible to obtain truly decentralized, so maybe you have to consider different ways to say it! Not to say we cannot have a successful platform that is semi-decentralized;)
Guys, can we please talk about that topic after the most important issue is solved? "Is this platform decentralized?", should it be a question posed after we prove its security? I suppose this platform is a scam, your question will be pointless, a phishing site doesn't matter if it's really decentralized or not. Therefore, we need to know what should be prioritized, do not off topic  Wink The biggest priority right now is their reputation
hero member
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No offense guys,,, but a truly decentralized operation does not have an operator. I would say it is almost impossible to obtain truly decentralized, so maybe you have to consider different ways to say it! Not to say we cannot have a successful platform that is semi-decentralized;)
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I was reading through the post to understand why you call yours "truly decentralized" but found nothing.
How about Provable fair by the way? You didn't mention that and I assume a truly decentralized betting platform should have it.
What does "coefficient" in the game mean?
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Your trust ratings do you no favors op. How do you expect anyone here to trust you after your past transgressions? The ratings are recent too which is another issue.

Checked out your site anyway on my mobile and did not find any sportsbook section. I was instead redirected to some game called Blast(Had to tap the screen) which is weird. You need to fix all these issues in order to actually attract gamblers.
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First of all, this account is over a year now. We are not trying to hide behind anything. Admittedly. we had some issues with our account in the past. A fake person will create a new identity to start something else but no, we are real and legit. We are sticking to our account and identity and we will correct all previous issues we had in the past. We learned from those experience and we are trying to do something better and useful as you can see.
I tend to agree with you on it, so let's do your best to prove the security of your platform  Wink Negative feedback in the past cannot be deleted, you should bring it and work, as long as you are good, those things will be ignored in the future.
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A crypto-based betting platform should not require too much information. It should be minimalist, the missing information is user name, password, email and numberphone. Please ignore all remaining information if you can. Address of residence is information that no one wants to provide. It must be removed  Wink
legendary
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Hey, I can understand your concern about this whole situation but, these accusations are completely unfounded.
Its true we initially intended to run an ICO for our project sometime last year but, I suspended the whole thing due to this kinds of accusations and self funded the project. Not a single cent was taken from anyone
Thanks.
But you can still stealing your customer money, since the gambler still needs to deposit to your gambling website.

First of all, this account is over a year now. We are not trying to hide behind anything. Admittedly. we had some issues with our account in the past. A fake person will create a new identity to start something else but no, we are real and legit. We are sticking to our account and identity and we will correct all previous issues we had in the past. We learned from those experience and we are trying to do something better and useful as you can see.
Well, you already hide your self by using other people's identities without an agreement with the real person.

With their policy who need lots of document, someone who wins a big amount will be the face of "KYC Procedure". They will make a lot of times to delay the withdrawal, so the user cant withdrawl their money.

If you begging to us, started with zero again to gain "trust" its already too late.
hero member
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I have received a message from Betnomi with the desire to prove their legitimacy and security in their platform. And I have asked them to submit all their documents here. We will wait and see if they have anything to prove it. I still won't trust them until there is any evidence to back it up. I hope no one wastes any money on their platform before everything is clear  Wink

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Access is still stable
In the mean time, we will work with one of the most trusted people in the forum to put some funds in escrow as a guarantee if that makes you guys feel any better.
Escrow is good for everyone, but you need to specify, what purpose for it. Escrow for the operation of the platform or escrow for the campaign you are about to organize.
Its a requirement from the authorities that issue the casino/gaming license but, we are working closely with them to remove this requirement or at least reduce the required personal information.
Please also provide information about that authorities.
legendary
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it will take a lot of time for betnomi to gain the trust given that they tried faking a team.

but probably start by not collecting these:

Username
First and surname
Date of birth
Email address
Residential address
Phone number
Billing address
Identification documents
Proof of address documents

normally players are not comfortable giving away these data.
legendary
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Stay away from this site and users
This guy has been accused of fraud with a fake project, fake team and more, check out his trust about the evidence of fraud. With a site like this, I believe people will be at a high risk of losing money if they make any transactions. The site looks nice but it is deceptive, careful. Don't waste any of your money here  Undecided
Opening a brand-new copper member account and promoting the new betting platform will be their best alternative. I agree with you, the transparent team will think every aspect of the marketing seriously. Exit scam is loading...

First of all, this account is over a year now. We are not trying to hide behind anything. Admittedly. we had some issues with our account in the past. A fake person will create a new identity to start something else but no, we are real and legit. We are sticking to our account and identity and we will correct all previous issues we had in the past. We learned from those experience and we are trying to do something better and useful as you can see.

Thumbs up for your honesty, hope you can solve all the previous issue so you can start your gambling site better although it wont be an easy task for you to clear your trust rating but if you can discuss it in a good way then I believe it is still possible to solve the issues. Lets see how great your efforts to solve all the issues.
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