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Topic: Betting on the Paralympic Games? Ethical or not? (Read 1164 times)

sr. member
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Trying to remove them from gambling sites only shows them that people pity on them, I don't see any problems to it they just get the same treatment just like the normal athletes. Well some people may find it unethical but we have different perspective and I think if you remove their events in gambling site or you didn't include them they will assume that either you pity them or you don't accept them and consider what they are doing as a sport.
Exactly my point. These people wouldn't to be pitied on, they needed to be understood and accepted to the society like our own because they are still our kin anyway. It wouldn't be fair for them to be treated differently or even better than normal humans except in times that they would require these types of support and assistance. Gambling on them would be the least of our worries if we come to find out how brutal and devastating the discrimination against differently-abled people are.

The problem was how the general public will view this particular issue. People on this generation is too sensitive on any issue about equality and other matters that is not usual. I understand the point that they are both player so we should treat as same but we are talking about involving them to Gambling activities which is not usual. No matter what we do, People with disability is special and they will be view as normal so people that will see them using on gambling activities will obviously gonna react since gambling is always subjected to bad reputation in general for normal people that don't gamble.

These statements are indeed true. But I think that in today’s society, where everyone has their respective views and opinions in everything, it is no surprise that both claps and criticisms will result in doing this. At the end of the day, what matters is the inclusivity that we extend to these Paralympic players and how they would like to feel included.
legendary
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I agree, but only when a person has a mild degree of disability that does not cause him problems. Most people with disabilities have to spend far more on life than a normal person spends. In addition, not only is it more difficult for disabled people to find a job, but they also have to live in a world that cannot always provide for their most basic needs. To understand this, try to get in a wheelchair at least 20 km away from your place of residence without the help of others.
yeah, I get that and I am not trying to dismiss or diminish the hardships people with a far more severe disability face every single day in their life but at the end of the day, I am pretty sure a lot of disabled people just wanted to be seen as a person first and not as a special case because of their disability. it is great to be sympathetic, kind, and be helpful to disabled people but let's not make it to the point that we only see their disability and almost ignore their capability to be independent even if it is only for a short time.
legendary
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^

I don't quite understand your point of view. Why are you so negative about this kind of betting? After all, the world of betting is very wide, from betting on sporting events and betting on winning the presidential race to betting on the weather. An athlete participates in the Paralympics on his own initiative. He may not even be aware that someone is betting on him. Besides, he has absolutely nothing to lose from it.
legendary
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I saw that a difficult topic was being discussed and decided to write my own vision of these competitions too.  Here, even more important than in the Olympic Games is primarily the qualifications and selection of athletes, since everyone has different disabilities.  This of course also complicates the work of the judges.  And actually, such competitions are almost never shown on TV, only episodes and victories in the news. 
As for the ethics of betting at these competitions, it seems to me that it is not entirely correct to place bets, more precisely, it is completely wrong, because every such athlete is a hero.  And his real reward is victory and a place on the podium.  And all those who profit from bets and bookmakers on this hero would go to hell.  I will never bet on the Paralympics. 
And I do not advise you!
legendary
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I see that almost everyone agrees that it's okay to bet on the Paralympics. Now I would like to know - does anyone follow this sporting event and place bets? To be honest, I know little about the strength of the athletes here, so I don't bet, but if someone gives advice on what to pay attention to, I will gladly do it.

I think the biggest problem is where to see the actual games, where I live not a single time the games have been transmitted and you need to go out of your way to watch the games, this makes betting on the games harder as it is difficult to get a frame of reference about the potential to win from each athlete when you cannot even watch the games, I think this is really limiting the popularity of those games and the interest people could have on betting on them.
legendary
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Exactly my point. These people wouldn't to be pitied on, they needed to be understood and accepted to the society like our own because they are still our kin anyway. It wouldn't be fair for them to be treated differently or even better than normal humans except in times that they would require these types of support and assistance. Gambling on them would be the least of our worries if we come to find out how brutal and devastating the discrimination against differently-abled people are.
it is saddening that there are people who are so morally blinded that they think disabled people need to be treated in a special way all the time. there are a lot of disabled people who just wanted to be treated the same and not be pitied just because of their disability. also, betting on the sport they are playing doesn't diminish their value or worth as a human or an athlete.

As worthy as the same athlete who competes and believe that they can win.

These people are there to try proving that they deserved to win the medal. They wanted to compete, showcasing their capabilities and.
They don't want other people to look at them as special; they want also a normal life and winning to this kind of competition gives them that
opportunities that they can also do what the normal people do.
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The bookmaker's availability will be the gambler's concern whether the gamblers will place the bet or just watch the show.
If gamblers found bookmakers to bet on the Paralympics and have many sports to bet on, gamblers will place their bet and see the result later.
But maybe Paralympics does not take much attention from gamblers because we do not know if they are placing their bet on that event or not.
Yes, of course, if the gamblers found bookmakers and he also saw the opportunity to win the betting, they would immediately use the opportunity. Maybe not many will be interested. However, it does not rule out the possibility if in the future gambling on them can be more and more. Given that the current paralympic games are also growing and attracting attention in the world.
This pandemic also makes the Paralympic games popular and get attention from people because people can know that disabled people can compete with each other.
Yes, if the casino can also give a portion to the Paralympic, maybe a gambler can bet on the sports they want.
Maybe the bookmakers will try to announce some news about the Paralympic soon or in the future, especially if people attention to the Paralympic games can grow better.
legendary
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Exactly my point. These people wouldn't to be pitied on, they needed to be understood and accepted to the society like our own because they are still our kin anyway. It wouldn't be fair for them to be treated differently or even better than normal humans except in times that they would require these types of support and assistance. Gambling on them would be the least of our worries if we come to find out how brutal and devastating the discrimination against differently-abled people are.
it is saddening that there are people who are so morally blinded that they think disabled people need to be treated in a special way all the time. there are a lot of disabled people who just wanted to be treated the same and not be pitied just because of their disability. also, betting on the sport they are playing doesn't diminish their value or worth as a human or an athlete.

I agree, but only when a person has a mild degree of disability that does not cause him problems. Most people with disabilities have to spend far more on life than a normal person spends. In addition, not only is it more difficult for disabled people to find a job, but they also have to live in a world that cannot always provide for their most basic needs. To understand this, try to get in a wheelchair at least 20 km away from your place of residence without the help of others.
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Exactly my point. These people wouldn't to be pitied on, they needed to be understood and accepted to the society like our own because they are still our kin anyway. It wouldn't be fair for them to be treated differently or even better than normal humans except in times that they would require these types of support and assistance. Gambling on them would be the least of our worries if we come to find out how brutal and devastating the discrimination against differently-abled people are.
it is saddening that there are people who are so morally blinded that they think disabled people need to be treated in a special way all the time. there are a lot of disabled people who just wanted to be treated the same and not be pitied just because of their disability. also, betting on the sport they are playing doesn't diminish their value or worth as a human or an athlete.
They would rather be grateful or be that happy since people are treating them as a normal person or who had really be the same into those who are in complete of body parts and that would really raise up
some moral.

I don't see anything wrong on betting with Paralympic games and this would vary on someones interest because not all would really be having idea or having those statistics that they do know
about on a certain player this is why its hard to determine whether you do make a bet or not.

Ethical or non ethical is sole just talking about personal own point of view.
legendary
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Exactly my point. These people wouldn't to be pitied on, they needed to be understood and accepted to the society like our own because they are still our kin anyway. It wouldn't be fair for them to be treated differently or even better than normal humans except in times that they would require these types of support and assistance. Gambling on them would be the least of our worries if we come to find out how brutal and devastating the discrimination against differently-abled people are.
it is saddening that there are people who are so morally blinded that they think disabled people need to be treated in a special way all the time. there are a lot of disabled people who just wanted to be treated the same and not be pitied just because of their disability. also, betting on the sport they are playing doesn't diminish their value or worth as a human or an athlete.
hero member
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Trying to remove them from gambling sites only shows them that people pity on them, I don't see any problems to it they just get the same treatment just like the normal athletes. Well some people may find it unethical but we have different perspective and I think if you remove their events in gambling site or you didn't include them they will assume that either you pity them or you don't accept them and consider what they are doing as a sport.
Exactly my point. These people wouldn't to be pitied on, they needed to be understood and accepted to the society like our own because they are still our kin anyway. It wouldn't be fair for them to be treated differently or even better than normal humans except in times that they would require these types of support and assistance. Gambling on them would be the least of our worries if we come to find out how brutal and devastating the discrimination against differently-abled people are.

The problem was how the general public will view this particular issue. People on this generation is too sensitive on any issue about equality and other matters that is not usual. I understand the point that they are both player so we should treat as same but we are talking about involving them to Gambling activities which is not usual. No matter what we do, People with disability is special and they will be view as normal so people that will see them using on gambling activities will obviously gonna react since gambling is always subjected to bad reputation in general for normal people that don't gamble.
sr. member
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What is ethical is them being treated the way normal athletes would be. Yes there will be instances where gambling firms and authorities may see potential in these sports and I think it is all okay. Instead of wasting energy debating whether it is ethical to gamble on differently-abled athletes in the best days of their lives, I think it is better if we support the Paralympic games in every way we can so it gains as much attention as our regular Olympic games does whenever it is held. These athletes showcase the greatest feats of human ability and it is only fair we celebrate them in all ways we can.
Trying to remove them from gambling sites only shows them that people pity on them, I don't see any problems to it they just get the same treatment just like the normal athletes. Well some people may find it unethical but we have different perspective and I think if you remove their events in gambling site or you didn't include them they will assume that either you pity them or you don't accept them and consider what they are doing as a sport.
Exactly my point. These people wouldn't to be pitied on, they needed to be understood and accepted to the society like our own because they are still our kin anyway. It wouldn't be fair for them to be treated differently or even better than normal humans except in times that they would require these types of support and assistance. Gambling on them would be the least of our worries if we come to find out how brutal and devastating the discrimination against differently-abled people are.
legendary
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That is what we are thinking about.
gamblers will also see from a different point of view, not from the disability that they have. But how they can play, compete, and win the competition. And the winning or loss itself will determine whether the gamblers win that betting or not.
As long as they can make money from it, it will never be a matter, or a big matter to think about.
Gamblers will not discriminate those athletes because they are the best and they can perform good things despite of their disability so again, I don’t see any unethical if you bet with them and this is sports so consider it as a sports without any discrimination. I salute those athletes for fighting all out and be a pride of their respective countries.

Perhaps there is a point in saying that actually not betting on Paralympics or games for people with different abilities is in itself kind of discriminatory. They are athletes and if you have seem some of them, it is amazing how strong, fast and committed they are - nothing to envy to the fully abled athletes at all. For the player, it offers and additional skill to acquire since it may be less common and more difficult to speculate about these athletes and their possible results in the games.
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That is what we are thinking about.
gamblers will also see from a different point of view, not from the disability that they have. But how they can play, compete, and win the competition. And the winning or loss itself will determine whether the gamblers win that betting or not.
As long as they can make money from it, it will never be a matter, or a big matter to think about.
^ Definitely right, gamblers did not matter on how they are but as long as they can bet and every competition that has an odds to bet, they always think about betting. Besides, probably those who entered in  Paralympic games already know about those consequences of criticism by the viewers. This is not a new event and probably people are already aware about them, only gamblers who take advantage of the possible odds each game which you can make a massive earning.
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That is what we are thinking about.
gamblers will also see from a different point of view, not from the disability that they have. But how they can play, compete, and win the competition. And the winning or loss itself will determine whether the gamblers win that betting or not.
As long as they can make money from it, it will never be a matter, or a big matter to think about.

 
sr. member
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They say it will be disrespectful if they are treated in any other way...

So what do you guys and gals think..... ?

I think it will be dehumanizing if they are rather treated differently from the other alteletes. Showing them on public is even a good think which is going to expose them to government , philanthropies and charity helpers to do more support for them and better their personal life after the games because after the sports and they return home, some don't live a good life and are abandoned but just remembered because of the game and feeding them in to participate and win medals for the government. I support that anything that will be done for the public to know about them is good and placing bet on them as other sporting activities is not a bad thing to do.
legendary
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It seems to me that people with disabilities do not care whether there are stakes in the Paralympics or not. They want to be useful members of society and that their rights and dignity are not infringed upon by the common man, the employer and the state.

People with disabilities but don't give up on their dreams and don't make excuses for quitting are real heroes. when they think that they are like ordinary people why do we have to look at it from the negative way, right? Surely they want to be seen and considered like other professional athletes. and they are deserve better appreciation for their dedication.



Exactly. It is much harder for people with disabilities to achieve good results in sports, but sometimes their motivation is amazing. After all, many of the paralympians start playing sports only after their abilities become limited. The lives of such people are much more difficult than ours, so we should support them whenever possible. I don't know if betting on the Paralympics can be considered as support for the athletes themselves, but the fact that such bets are held shows that they are not forgotten and they are just as important to the community as other people.
sr. member
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It seems to me that people with disabilities do not care whether there are stakes in the Paralympics or not. They want to be useful members of society and that their rights and dignity are not infringed upon by the common man, the employer and the state.

People with disabilities but don't give up on their dreams and don't make excuses for quitting are real heroes. when they think that they are like ordinary people why do we have to look at it from the negative way, right? Surely they want to be seen and considered like other professional athletes. and they are deserve better appreciation for their dedication.

legendary
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It seems to me that people with disabilities do not care whether there are stakes in the Paralympics or not. They want to be useful members of society and that their rights and dignity are not infringed upon by the common man, the employer and the state. That's why many of them take a very active part in various important events for all of us and not only sports.
legendary
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Indeed, in a competition, they are athletes and everything on the inside is fairness and victory and their efforts, if we count on ethics, refusing to bet on them is also discriminatory because for most of the interviews about people with physical problems, they always expect us to look at them with the most normal eyes, betting as an incentive for them. From a betting point of view, such contests are uncommon and poorly informed, betting solely on the role of chance is predominant.

We should respect honor their greatness in trying to live as normal as they can,

there are so many pwd who keep depressing themselves thinking that they less worthy in this world, so those who try to live normal
We should treat them the way they wanted us to see them. This kind of betting is an incentive for them knowing that there are people who trust them and believe in what they can contribute..
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