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Quote from: KTChampions on August 17, 2021, 01:50:43 PM

Now I would like to know - does anyone follow this sporting event and place bets? To be honest, I know little about the strength of the athletes here, so I don't bet, but if someone gives advice on what to pay attention to, I will gladly do it.

Not for me. The reasons are; I don't have a knowledge on athletes, their sports performance and my information is very limited. But can be changed if I see some good reference for picks especially if the odds is attractive.

If I'm not mistaken, the betting market is small so I doubt it will be listed on popular sports betting sites either on fiat or crypto sites. Correct me if I'm wrong to those who already placed a bet on previous Paralympics games.

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Maybe today, there is only a few information about it and only a few platforms that concern with the Paralympic Games.
So, this may not be really familiar.
however, as you said, once there are any and there is a chance to gamble, they will bet it to focus only on winning the prizes only.
Taking chance if they really know the Paralympic Games, but not for the lucky games.

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I think it would be unethical to not bet on the games just because the participants are paralympic athletes. I'm sure they probably would appreciate the support of having people hoping they win and cheering for them. As long as you aren't doing it in jest or with the sole purpose of spreading negative energy then I don't see any problem with it. I think there are probably people who see it as an opportunity and research the events/competitors in order to try and use any advantage they can to win a bet.

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Quote from: Kakmakr on August 12, 2021, 08:10:03 AM

We will soon see the start of the Paralympic Games.... ( 24 Aug 2021 to 5 Sept 2021 ) ...so I was thinking if it was ethical to bet on these events? Will it be disrespectful towards people with disabilities or will they want to be handled in the same manner that any other athlete wants to be handled?

I spoke to a few disabled people at work and they have no problem if their athletes get the same attention as any other athlete that competes in the Olympic Games. Wink

They say it will be disrespectful if they are treated in any other way...

So what do you guys and gals think..... ?

It seems like a bit of an odd question really and you're actually classifying these people as "different" when all they usually ever want to be is treated the same. There is zero ethical dilemma involved between gambling on Olympic athletes and gambling on Paralympic athletes. If there is a perceived gap in talent then the market (and bookmakers) will adjust their odds to match - so there should not be any notable difference. It's almost a redundant question, because you could ask the same thing about any professional athlete who has trained extremely hard to get to the top of their chosen profession - footballers, golfers, swimmers, etc. It's actually more disrespectful to ask such a question in the first place.

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I see that almost everyone agrees that it's okay to bet on the Paralympics. Now I would like to know - does anyone follow this sporting event and place bets? To be honest, I know little about the strength of the athletes here, so I don't bet, but if someone gives advice on what to pay attention to, I will gladly do it.

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Quote from: Kakmakr on August 12, 2021, 08:10:03 AM

We will soon see the start of the Paralympic Games.... ( 24 Aug 2021 to 5 Sept 2021 ) ...so I was thinking if it was ethical to bet on these events? Will it be disrespectful towards people with disabilities or will they want to be handled in the same manner that any other athlete wants to be handled?

I spoke to a few disabled people at work and they have no problem if their athletes get the same attention as any other athlete that competes in the Olympic Games. Wink

They say it will be disrespectful if they are treated in any other way...

So what do you guys and gals think..... ?

I think the same as them, in my experience those that face some kind of disability do not want our pity they just want to be treated like everyone else, so I do not really see why it will be disrespectful to them to put a bet or two on those events when we do that very same thing for other athletes, so if you feel like it and you think it will bring you entertainment watching those games by all means put that bet as there is nothing wrong in doing something like that.

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The fact that Paralympics exist means disabled people want to prove to the world that their disabilities are not a hindrance to show their ability to play sports like the normal people do in Olympics. Betting in Paralympics is just the same on betting to Olympic games, so there's nothing unethical about it. The only unethical would be booing them while they are playing and discouraging them to stop doing what they want in their lives.

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I think the folks that you've.asked are right, treating them like they're different is much more offensive and pointing out things that they can't change is just an added salt to the wound that they're already have which they're going to bear for the rest of their life. I think there's no qualms with betting on their games, it's much more exciting because you know that with their disabilities, the matches are unpredictable all throughout and as a gambler, that's what I like the most.

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Quote from: Reatim on August 17, 2021, 03:45:29 AM

I don't know why this need to be an issue , since the Paralympic players wanted themselves to be treated as normal so if we can bet on the regular players then why not on them? if they will read this thread, for sure they will feel insulted as they are also playing for their own goal in life, to win for themselves and for their countries .
let them play and be treated fairly and not as special like this.

That's because some people need attention so they make what's already normal seem like it's bad just to stir up a pointless debate. Of course it's ethical for the people to bet on those games because not doing so means that we are excluding them from what's normal. I remember the words that one of my friend said, as long as you don't point that I am black and you treat me like how you treat other people then we won't have any problem.

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I don't know why this need to be an issue , since the Paralympic players wanted themselves to be treated as normal so if we can bet on the regular players then why not on them? if they will read this thread, for sure they will feel insulted as they are also playing for their own goal in life, to win for themselves and for their countries .
let them play and be treated fairly and not as special like this.

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Quote from: Kakmakr on August 12, 2021, 08:10:03 AM

We will soon see the start of the Paralympic Games.... ( 24 Aug 2021 to 5 Sept 2021 ) ...so I was thinking if it was ethical to bet on these events? Will it be disrespectful towards people with disabilities or will they want to be handled in the same manner that any other athlete wants to be handled?

I spoke to a few disabled people at work and they have no problem if their athletes get the same attention as any other athlete that competes in the Olympic Games. Wink

They say it will be disrespectful if they are treated in any other way...

So what do you guys and gals think..... ?

I would say it would be unethical of you if you are a passionate bettor and will not place a bet on those competitions only for the reason, that the participants have a mental or physical Handicap. I am pretty sure that they want to be treated just like the other athlets and therefore it would probably insult them, if you would not place a bet on their games. That being said i don't even know how many sites are offering bets for the Paralympics, as it is pretty hard to calculate the odds because people with different types of handicaps are often in the same competition.

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Quote from: Rengga Jati on August 16, 2021, 07:08:02 PM

When we talk about gambling, it is actually possible that the gamblers will not pay too much ethical or not, especially if they see the rewards so big.
Sometimes, they don't distinguish against things that are betting for them, whether it's a paralympic or not.
They might assume the same. And moreover, it is gambling on the sports, not on the person personally itself.

Yes, the gamblers care about how they can bet with sports betting.
As long as they can place the bet on something that they know, they will do that.
Yes, that is gambling and after all, a gambler does that without telling the athletes and nobody will know where the gamblers will place the bet.
But sometimes, they prefer to just watch and not betting at all because they think they want to know more details about the game and the athletes.

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Quote from: Kakmakr on August 12, 2021, 08:10:03 AM

We will soon see the start of the Paralympic Games.... ( 24 Aug 2021 to 5 Sept 2021 ) ...so I was thinking if it was ethical to bet on these events? Will it be disrespectful towards people with disabilities or will they want to be handled in the same manner that any other athlete wants to be handled?

I spoke to a few disabled people at work and they have no problem if their athletes get the same attention as any other athlete that competes in the Olympic Games. Wink

They say it will be disrespectful if they are treated in any other way...

So what do you guys and gals think..... ?

Honestly why would anyone do that, seriously. If you know the odds between multiple people and follow the paralytic odds you need to find something else to do. Enjoy the games for what they are, no need to bet on them cmon.

You are in the gambling section of bitcointalk here not on a sport forum. So I don't think many people would be interested to watch those contests without betting on them here. If you only like to watch sports without betting on them you should go on a sports forum instead, but it's a really boring leisure I think.

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When we talk about gambling, it is actually possible that the gamblers will not pay too much ethical or not, especially if they see the rewards so big.
Sometimes, they don't distinguish against things that are betting for them, whether it's a paralympic or not.
They might assume the same. And moreover, it is gambling on the sports, not on the person personally itself.

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Quote from: KTChampions on August 16, 2021, 07:13:22 AM

I think there is nothing unethical about this. In my opinion, it is unethical to evaluate people with disabilities differently than ordinary people. Obviously, a Paralympic athlete cannot break the record of a regular 100m runner, but he can compete perfectly in his category and we can bet on that.

Exactly, treating them different and being overreactive and overprotective over them is going to be insincere for us to do since it only makes them feel like they don't belong because even though the treatment is positive, we still see them as a different kind of people. It's unethical if people are getting intentionally hurt or they're humiliated without their their consent and their being forced to do what they're supposed to do in the games.

Respect is very important, but will they get disrespected if we bet on their games? Nah, because they might even bet on their games too, lol.. they are just humans like us, they feel the satisfaction and they also want to be rewarded with money. Let's just continue betting if we enjoy watching them, otherwise, if it's a violation against the will of the Paralympic players, then we will not gonna see betting odds on any gambling site.

^ I even salute them and respect should also be there, they are very strong behind of their situation they can able to participate in sports and to become the game balance, they had a competition like this. And now, there is no reason that we can't bet their games, it is also entertaining to place a bet in an unpredictable fight like racing of a wheelchair. In any form of the game, we can be able to place bets as long as there is possible odds.

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Quote from: Viscore on August 16, 2021, 04:56:04 PM

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Quote from: KTChampions on August 16, 2021, 07:13:22 AM

I think there is nothing unethical about this. In my opinion, it is unethical to evaluate people with disabilities differently than ordinary people. Obviously, a Paralympic athlete cannot break the record of a regular 100m runner, but he can compete perfectly in his category and we can bet on that.

Exactly, treating them different and being overreactive and overprotective over them is going to be insincere for us to do since it only makes them feel like they don't belong because even though the treatment is positive, we still see them as a different kind of people. It's unethical if people are getting intentionally hurt or they're humiliated without their their consent and their being forced to do what they're supposed to do in the games.

Respect is very important, but will they get disrespected if we bet on their games? Nah, because they might even bet on their games too, lol.. they are just humans like us, they feel the satisfaction and they also want to be rewarded with money. Let's just continue betting if we enjoy watching them, otherwise, if it's a violation against the will of the Paralympic players, then we will not gonna see betting odds on any gambling site.

They would rather be impressed or would be glad if they do saw that there's someone who had betting into their performance on particular games just like on how we do treat those normal athletes and with that alone
they would surely appreciate in regards on how we do treat them and i dont see any problems with that.It doesnt mean about being ethical or not because this is just really depending on someones interest.
Bet according to your interest and wont mind about if its ethical or not because we do have different views in life or on particular things in life.Some might be looking this one to be not right
but there are some who doesnt really care at all.

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Quote from: Kong Hey Pakboy on August 16, 2021, 10:20:53 AM

Quote from: KTChampions on August 16, 2021, 07:13:22 AM

I think there is nothing unethical about this. In my opinion, it is unethical to evaluate people with disabilities differently than ordinary people. Obviously, a Paralympic athlete cannot break the record of a regular 100m runner, but he can compete perfectly in his category and we can bet on that.

Exactly, treating them different and being overreactive and overprotective over them is going to be insincere for us to do since it only makes them feel like they don't belong because even though the treatment is positive, we still see them as a different kind of people. It's unethical if people are getting intentionally hurt or they're humiliated without their their consent and their being forced to do what they're supposed to do in the games.

Respect is very important, but will they get disrespected if we bet on their games? Nah, because they might even bet on their games too, lol.. they are just humans like us, they feel the satisfaction and they also want to be rewarded with money. Let's just continue betting if we enjoy watching them, otherwise, if it's a violation against the will of the Paralympic players, then we will not gonna see betting odds on any gambling site.

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Quote from: Kakmakr on August 12, 2021, 08:10:03 AM

We will soon see the start of the Paralympic Games.... ( 24 Aug 2021 to 5 Sept 2021 ) ...so I was thinking if it was ethical to bet on these events? Will it be disrespectful towards people with disabilities or will they want to be handled in the same manner that any other athlete wants to be handled?

I spoke to a few disabled people at work and they have no problem if their athletes get the same attention as any other athlete that competes in the Olympic Games. Wink

They say it will be disrespectful if they are treated in any other way...

So what do you guys and gals think..... ?

Any disabled person would always feel to be treated as like other are treated. I would say, lets just enjoy the game with spirit irrespective of players ability or skills. Lets our spirit bring more vibration and enthusiasm to the players by either betting or encouraging them by any means. Betting is always a push to the players to play better and win. So, the players would certainly play towards the win. Its a kind of support the audience / bettors give to players.

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Quote from: Kakmakr on August 12, 2021, 08:10:03 AM

We will soon see the start of the Paralympic Games.... ( 24 Aug 2021 to 5 Sept 2021 ) ...so I was thinking if it was ethical to bet on these events? Will it be disrespectful towards people with disabilities or will they want to be handled in the same manner that any other athlete wants to be handled?

Those participating in this Paralympic do not even think of the word disabilities or they are less equal to real athletes, if we think it's unethical we disrespect them because we think they are less superior to Olympic athletes that we put our bets on, so we should bet on them and let them know that we support them and we treat them equally like normal average athletes.

Yes, I agree with you. Excessive custody of people is a serious problem in the modern world.

Man is originally a powerful fighter. He is able to conquer Everest, swim across the ocean on a bamboo raft (the journey of Thor Heyerdahl on the Kon-Tiki raft) and fight a thousand enemies.

One man can fertilize thousands of women with his own semen. His descendants can inhabit all continents of the planet Earth.

However, the idea is now popular in the world that people need daily petty care. Everyone worries that someone may offend someone.

Paralympic athletes are courageous people (men and women).

I'm sure they don't want to have any special status different from other people.

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Quote from: KTChampions on August 16, 2021, 07:13:22 AM

I think there is nothing unethical about this. In my opinion, it is unethical to evaluate people with disabilities differently than ordinary people. Obviously, a Paralympic athlete cannot break the record of a regular 100m runner, but he can compete perfectly in his category and we can bet on that.

Exactly, treating them different and being overreactive and overprotective over them is going to be insincere for us to do since it only makes them feel like they don't belong because even though the treatment is positive, we still see them as a different kind of people. It's unethical if people are getting intentionally hurt or they're humiliated without their their consent and their being forced to do what they're supposed to do in the games.

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