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Quote from: just_Alice on August 14, 2021, 08:39:05 AM

I totally agree with people with disabilities on this. If we thought that betting and predictions were unethical, we might as well think that the whole competition is unethical. But it’s not. They have the same rights as healthy athletes to participate in the Olympic Games, and it would be, in fact, unethical to treat them in other way by not allowing the betting. I can totally see how that could be considered as discrimination.

I believe this disabled athletes welcomes the idea of placing a bet on them and since they are comfortable with it then it's fully ethical. Just as you pointed out here:

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If we thought that betting and predictions were unethical, we might as well think that the whole competition is unethical. But it’s not.

Which is totally true if we condemn placing a bet on their paralympic game then we should also consider the game itself unethical as well but since the reverse is the case then it's fully ethical

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Will it be disrespectful towards people with disabilities or will they want to be handled in the same manner that any other athlete wants to be handled?

I don't like to involve the concern of being ethical or non-ethical at that type of event. It's just a common sports event and the status of the participants or whatever has nothing to do with it. It's like a usual sports event on a different tier so nothing big deal about this.

About betting, I also don't see any problem with it. Not experience yet betting on that event but haven't heard of the news that there are people who are against it. It's should be like a normal betting we should see in a sportsbook.

Well yeah, we have different opinions regarding this issue but still, it's a sports manner if they are offended I guess the organization of the gambling platform varies the decision if they will adopt this kind of game. Of course, here's a survey that will happen if they want to adopt this kind of sport. If we are talking about sports I guess there's nothing wrong with this. The sports community will support this kind of sport but the gambling platform will must need to take a decision first.

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Quote from: Vaskiy on August 13, 2021, 07:12:11 PM

With sports everything needs to be common. As they are differently abled they're given the chance to show their talents and ability. Maybe they weren't popular as the players of the Olympics, but adding them to the gambling platforms will make atleast few people know about them. So it is completely an ethical thing.

Exactly. They shouldn't be treated as different just because of what or who they are but it should be on how they showcase their skills and talents and that they can do it too. It's ethical if people accept them on who they are physically and even if they are into bookies or something that will just give them more chance to be known worldwide. I think they have consent to be on bookies or other betting platforms? Anyone knows?

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I totally agree with people with disabilities on this. If we thought that betting and predictions were unethical, we might as well think that the whole competition is unethical. But it’s not. They have the same rights as healthy athletes to participate in the Olympic Games, and it would be, in fact, unethical to treat them in other way by not allowing the betting. I can totally see how that could be considered as discrimination.

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Quote from: Vaskiy on August 13, 2021, 07:12:11 PM

With sports everything needs to be common. As they are differently abled they're given the chance to show their talents and ability. Maybe they weren't popular as the players of the Olympics, but adding them to the gambling platforms will make atleast few people know about them. So it is completely an ethical thing.

People are really just too underestimating on this disabled person thats why some would have some this kind of common impression that they should really be pitied rather than on being impressed on seeing
on what they are capable off despite of the abnormalities that they do have.I dont see for it to be unethical on betting on them on paralympic games.As a gambler if you do find out for this to be entertaining then
it doesnt matter or you wouldnt really be minding about these issues.Actually this is just a personal point of view on this kind of discussion but actually this isnt really that an issue.

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With sports everything needs to be common. As they are differently abled they're given the chance to show their talents and ability. Maybe they weren't popular as the players of the Olympics, but adding them to the gambling platforms will make atleast few people know about them. So it is completely an ethical thing.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on August 13, 2021, 10:37:36 AM

Not a big deal, bettors just love to bet whatever is open for betting, these are people who are competing in sports, so if we are watching and enjoying it, then maybe it's not bad to put a little bet on it. I think what's unethical is when we are betting on animals that are killing each other, cockfighting is popular but it could be animal cruelty.

I totally agree with your thinking, because as bettors we only try to participate in a sport regardless of the sporting situation, and by betting on paralympic athletes, can't that be a motivation for the players to make them more confiden ? and if more people who bet will certainly make the paralympic sport more popular in the future
In my personal opinion, what we don't do in sports is commit fraud such as score fixing or whatever that will make the sport look really bad.

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Not a big deal, bettors just love to bet whatever is open for betting, these are people who are competing in sports, so if we are watching and enjoying it, then maybe it's not bad to put a little bet on it. I think what's unethical is when we are betting on animals that are killing each other, cockfighting is popular but it could be animal cruelty.

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I think it's just normal at the end of the day we support them and we chose the person who wants to play against their competitor I think IMO might possibly boost their confidence because someone trusts them winning the game and its sports we know that it's all about the competition nothing personally and it depends on the platform if they want to support this kind of game but base on my experience a gambling platform still didn't handle this kind of event yet.

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Yeah, I also don't think it's a problem for them. It's actually our problem when we lose and they might disagree with it just to keep us safe from gambling addiction. Grin

When you brought this topic up I am kind of interested of what is happening during this sports game. Honestly, I had never watched any game from them but now I want to just to see how the rules will be for them and witness reactions after a win.
About being ethical or not, it's on us. If you think it is not then don't bet, there are lot of games to bet for and no one will stop us from doing it.

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Quote from: Kakmakr on August 12, 2021, 08:10:03 AM

Will it be disrespectful towards people with disabilities or will they want to be handled in the same manner that any other athlete wants to be handled?

I don't like to involve the concern of being ethical or non-ethical at that type of event. It's just a common sports event and the status of the participants or whatever has nothing to do with it. It's like a usual sports event on a different tier so nothing big deal about this.

About betting, I also don't see any problem with it. Not experience yet betting on that event but haven't heard of the news that there are people who are against it. It's should be like a normal betting we should see in a sportsbook.

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It depends on how you look at them if you think they are equal to normal athletes then it's no wrong to treat them differently they are athletes who want to excel if you are betting in sports where average athletes are competing, you should also do this to athletes from Paralympics, I'm sure they will be happy that people are trusting them with their bets.

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I think it will not be available on the betting sites if it's not ethical. Why is it a big deal, the question seems to be treating them as special people where they should not be level to the normal athletes. I have not bet in this kind of game but I believe they should be not be treated differently, whether in betting or any other thing.

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These people wants to be treated as a normal person, but with some special privileges.
I guess betting on this kind of sport isnt a disrespectful act towards people with disabilities. Instead, It would be a confidence booster for them knowing that there are actually a lot of people are watching them and competing through betting while supporting thier teams.

Betting is normal to every sports. We even place bets on roosters lol.

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Quote from: Kakmakr on August 12, 2021, 08:10:03 AM

~ So what do you guys and gals think..... ?

A disabled person is no different from a normal person, so he is more likely to be offended by the posing of such a question than by betting on paralympic games. Many disabled athletes are in the kind of physical shape that normal people cannot achieve.

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Quote from: Strongkored on August 13, 2021, 01:42:31 AM

I think when we bet on the paralympic games we actually appreciate them, because I believe bettors when they start betting on these games do carelessly, but bettors do a search first about the games they will choose. as well as finding out about athletes who are favorites and it is not impossible for bettors to also watch the match and it was done because the match was interesting to watch, maybe in the future Paralympic games will become a common thing to broadcast and watched.

Placing a bet is the best thing that we can do for the Paralympic athletes, it's our simple way of appreciation to their skills and talents which even they are disabled person they can still outstand without considering those hindrances. And Paralympic games is still a sport which a fair game that a bettors will sure be enjoy and thrilled to watch the game while they are waiting for the winner. So yeah there's nothing unethical about it and I myself are waiting for this game too.

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I don't see any problems with that to be honest if gambling sites tried to neglect them they will think that people pity them having a bet on Paralympic games only shows that they were treated as the same Athletes and probably they will feel more accepted by the community. That's my honest opinion about it.

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Why would even think that it's unethical, it's still a sport and these people has to be treated like how we trained players in the Olympics. They are living normally under their condition so we have to respect them, there's no need to pity them, otherwise, they will feel that have no place in this world.

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I think I should have started a Poll on this, because the majority of the people seem to be in favor of betting on the Paralympic events. Come to think of it, if betting was allowed, it will mean that more sponsors will be willing to make donations or sponsorship available for these athletes.

We have casinos like Stake.com that are sponsoring famous UFC fighters and Soccer clubs, so casinos can definitely consider sponsoring disabled athletes to enable them to compete at these games. (It is costing these athletes a lot of money to get to these games and to train for this event) Wink

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From reading the comments a conclusion is that nobody thinks that betting on Paralympic Games is unethical! They are people and they wish to be treated equally! It's a competition and if people bet on competition, why to not bet on this one?!
But who is following and supporting Paralympic Games from here?! To be honest, I only read news about Paralympic Games, usually when I catch some headline about my country's accomplishments or about some records. And I never placed a bet on the Paralympic Games...

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