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legendary
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November 04, 2023, 03:53:37 PM
#76
It is a completely personal decision, in my opinion, if this is about religion then we should not judge that person is not willing to rent or lease the place to a gambling agent, because in his moral standards and he was taught when attended to his church or mosque.
Even if he loses this opportunity, because of the advantageous place his local has within the center of commerce, it will just matter of time before some other business person approaches him and can get a good deal, it may not be as good one as the one which is being currently offered, but he will still have a source of income and keep his personal morality intact.

Since I do not have much of a problem with gambling, I think I would likely accept the offer, but again, I do not judge anyone for not doing so.
hero member
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November 04, 2023, 02:59:20 PM
#75
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He thinks that with the lotto outlet, he will encourage people to gamble which is against his morals so it is a battle between his conscience and the profit.

So what's the best decision to take he is afraid if he lets go of this opportunity the lotto agent will eventually find a location in their place and eventually lose the opportunity to make a profit.
If I were in the position, I will take the opportunity. The opportunity came to your friend without seeking and I personally think that it is a good business deal between your friend and the lotto agent. When it comes to morality, I don't find it wrong since it is legal in your country and I don't think that having a business like that in your area encourage people to gamble and join the lottery. Having a gun shop in your local area doesn't mean that you encourage or want everyone to buy a gun from you right? At the end of the day, your friend will still have the final verdict about this opportunity, it will depend on how he will scale the opportunity vs the morality that he currently have.
Kinda weird to compare a lotto outlet to a gun shop as they are to far to be the same. Gun shops only operates and sells to those who are eligible while a lotto outlet are allowed for those who met the age requirement.
Anyways, accepting the offer would be the best move especially if the potential profit would be much higher compared to other businesses. There's nothing really wrong with operating a lotto outlet especially if your country allows it. Also, it's not like your forcing people and promoting it to the people which may hurt his friends moral. The possible option for OP is to advice his friends and point their morals and conscience the right way as they are not really promoting it but rather they only are a business.
legendary
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November 04, 2023, 02:16:47 PM
#74
The best thing to do would be to learn how the lottery business works. Im not saying that he should change his morals but practiaclly speaking, he needs money. He should also study why there is no lottery on their place yet and verify it. To go with the offer would be the best option but if he has something in mind like other business where he doesnt have to “sacrifice” morals. He can consider it too.
Agree with you, everyone needs money to meet their living needs and also to collect some savings for future needs so that if business has obtained permit and is legal then there is no need to think about morals and conscience as long as we do not violate regulations existing.
Lottery is type of gambling that is quite popular in several countries and there are even government programs that have lottery for charity so if we think too much that the gambling business is business that sacrifices morals and conscience then we will never be able to develop by taking advantage of opportunities that may not be possible came twice.

It better to accept the offer and forget about your conscience because when we experience financial problems, there are not necessarily other people who want to care about helping us with the problems we are facing.
Opportunities like this are opportunities that we are always waiting for, especially since we can make quite large amounts of money consistently.
Some people do put legalities and permits ahead of morals when they are looking for chances. If a business, like a lotto, is legal and could make you money, I can see how you might see it as a good idea without being weighed down by guilt.

But it's important to ask: Are chances only about making money? It is absolutely necessary to think carefully about the long-term effects and results of putting money before ethics. Chances come and go, but the effects of choices made out of necessity rather than rightness can last for a long time. It's not really a problem; it's a standard dilemma where you have to choose between making quick money and doing the right thing.
Well you have to understand something, in every business there must always be a good profit, the rest for the business to exist, right? then the lottery business, try it now if only the odds make you think that you will always win, there is no study to do or understand what actually happens, a person who buys his ticket has his chance of winning, even if it is very minimal because only aitnee, but it most likely won't benefit you, that's what this business is about, when you set up a casino, the probability that someone wins is low, even so if you can win and win enough, the only business that I see that will always generate money in a mmetn will always be bitcoin, and that is one of the things that I see that will be intermittent where it will always give money, for the reason that I see that when it comes to making a lot of money these types of businesses exist.

Lotteries will always have their profits, and it will never be a Business to lose , Unless not many tickets were sold and the prize has to be handed over because the prize has fallen to a person who did have their number purchased and paid. So when we base ourselves on how we can find the different ways to win a lottery, raffle or anything that has to do with chance , yes it is Possible , but how ? Does it increase the chances of winning, not the probability, but the possibility and what is the possibility that it increases that I can win? buying a lot of tickets, tickets, what you think is that the person who buys a lot of tickets does increase the amount of money he wins, but spends a lot of money, at the end of the day he may not win either, because if he bought the tickets the number didn't drop, well, simply However, the person who only bought a number will not win, but the person who only bought a number will not win, or it is difficult here to be random, and that is something that there is no formula for, it is very difficult for Humanity , not even the best mathematician has Been asble to Determine it. , in fact it is very difficult to Determine.

legendary
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November 01, 2023, 06:30:12 PM
#73
First I would like to state that Gambling is legal in our country

This is my friend's story, business is not good in my friend's store which he owns the location is highly commercial but he cannot compete with the large and popular groceries nearby so he decided to stop operation and just offer to lease or rent it.

Because of the location a lottery agent who has a license approached him and is looking for a good place to set up his lottery, my friend's place is very much suited because there's no lotto outlet in that place, and with so many people coming and going and the fact that lotto is very popular in our country, the agent wants to lease at a very good price and a share of the income of the lotto.

He thinks that with the lotto outlet, he will encourage people to gamble which is against his morals so it is a battle between his conscience and the profit.

So what's the best decision to take he is afraid if he lets go of this opportunity the lotto agent will eventually find a location in their place and eventually lose the opportunity to make a profit.
If I were in the position, I will take the opportunity. The opportunity came to your friend without seeking and I personally think that it is a good business deal between your friend and the lotto agent. When it comes to morality, I don't find it wrong since it is legal in your country and I don't think that having a business like that in your area encourage people to gamble and join the lottery. Having a gun shop in your local area doesn't mean that you encourage or want everyone to buy a gun from you right? At the end of the day, your friend will still have the final verdict about this opportunity, it will depend on how he will scale the opportunity vs the morality that he currently have.
hero member
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November 01, 2023, 06:26:29 PM
#72
Of course - there are many different assumptions and several supporting views. While I do not support your friend renting out his shop to the gambling industry when he himself sees the potential profit from his own business. Whatever it is - the profit from your business is the most important thing you need to fight for, but if you no longer see the profit from it then you can maneuver in other ways.

I don't agree - but I'm not a wise thinker when it comes to matters of conscience. Let him have the plan – you don't actually need to be responsible for any decisions he makes later.

Yes that's correct. Even though he might not agree with gambling but not renting out the place as a lottery agent would not make a difference either. The lottery agent will look for another location not far from there so renting out the place or not will not change anything. The business world is a difficult world and we have to be good at taking opportunities, sometimes when we need to make decisions that seem selfish in order to survive and progress.
If you do see that you do need income then it would really be just that a waste to let your pride or ego would really be controlling you on which we know that not all the time that your place would really be having some renter or client on which means that it would really be just that a waste if you do make yourself that letting go with that lotto agent just because you are against with gambling.
Better to make yourself that wary about on things on what are sensible things to be done, if you are in struggling or needing up some income then letting go with that feeling would be the smartest thing to be done. You should not always be going along with those insights and feelings because it could also lead you up into things which you might regret later on.
We know that getting another source of income is never been simple and now that your place had been rented out then i wont really be tending to go into other angle
or problems just to get rid of my conscience. Money matters most of the time.
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November 01, 2023, 06:19:06 PM
#71
Of course - there are many different assumptions and several supporting views. While I do not support your friend renting out his shop to the gambling industry when he himself sees the potential profit from his own business. Whatever it is - the profit from your business is the most important thing you need to fight for, but if you no longer see the profit from it then you can maneuver in other ways.

I don't agree - but I'm not a wise thinker when it comes to matters of conscience. Let him have the plan – you don't actually need to be responsible for any decisions he makes later.

Yes that's correct. Even though he might not agree with gambling but not renting out the place as a lottery agent would not make a difference either. The lottery agent will look for another location not far from there so renting out the place or not will not change anything. The business world is a difficult world and we have to be good at taking opportunities, sometimes when we need to make decisions that seem selfish in order to survive and progress.
hero member
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November 01, 2023, 12:01:54 PM
#70

He thinks that with the lotto outlet, he will encourage people to gamble which is against his morals so it is a battle between his conscience and the profit.

So what's the best decision to take he is afraid if he lets go of this opportunity the lotto agent will eventually find a location in their place and eventually lose the opportunity to make a profit.
He isn't encouraging people to gamble in any way because he only have out the place on lease or probably rent that alone in itself isn't a form of encouragement for people to get involved in gambling as there was no persuasion of any kind both directly and indirectly.

The lotto agent is definitely going to get another space if he is not quick to decision and he wouldn't have the lotto agent to be blamed, I don't think there's any way giving out your space to be rented for the purpose of gambling is against morals, it's business and profit is the main aim, I'd we were to always put morals to consideration most persons would be out of business by now so there's not wrong with that he should cease this opportunity and make his profit.
hero member
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November 01, 2023, 11:31:54 AM
#69
It's great to have such consciousness and moral principles as a human being, but I'm afraid it is not good for a businessman because these things will make you lose a lot of good opportunities. I can totally understand what the feelings of your friend are regarding this and he doesn't want to be the base of an establishment where people will come and lose their hard-earned money without actually getting anything in return other than just one out of all of them for a specific period.

However, since you said that gambling is legal in your country and the agent also has a license to operate the business, your friend should cash the opportunity since money is also important in life and he is not actually the one who is starting that business but he is getting paid just for his land.
legendary
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October 31, 2023, 06:43:54 PM
#68
Of course - there are many different assumptions and several supporting views. While I do not support your friend renting out his shop to the gambling industry when he himself sees the potential profit from his own business. Whatever it is - the profit from your business is the most important thing you need to fight for, but if you no longer see the profit from it then you can maneuver in other ways.

I don't agree - but I'm not a wise thinker when it comes to matters of conscience. Let him have the plan – you don't actually need to be responsible for any decisions he makes later.
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October 31, 2023, 06:41:20 PM
#67
If you convince people to do something, in the law court they can't win against you because you did not force them at gunpoint to take any decision that they have extinguished. They did it at will, and whoever is engaging in gambling already knows gambling, as the name implies. It is a game of profit and loss; without him convincing people to bet, there are still a lot of gamblers who will come there to bet. Between the two, profit and conscience, he knows which will be more profitable to him; for me, I'd better choose profit. Gambling is not illegal, despite the fact that some countries condemn it.
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October 31, 2023, 05:59:09 PM
#66
God!!! I had to gnash my teeth together during this awful reading process...I only understood you from some popular phrases and words in the context...
Well, money is paramount - if there's actually a written agreement, then that's left for him to decide whether or not he wants to have that implemented in his stall or whatever... But if not, such verbal agreements are likely to involve in big troubles should the lotto guy refuse to remit .

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October 31, 2023, 05:56:11 PM
#65
First I would like to state that Gambling is legal in our country

This is my friend's story, business is not good in my friend's store which he owns the location is highly commercial but he cannot compete with the large and popular groceries nearby so he decided to stop operation and just offer to lease or rent it.

Because of the location a lottery agent who has a license approached him and is looking for a good place to set up his lottery, my friend's place is very much suited because there's no lotto outlet in that place, and with so many people coming and going and the fact that lotto is very popular in our country, the agent wants to lease at a very good price and a share of the income of the lotto.

He thinks that with the lotto outlet, he will encourage people to gamble which is against his morals so it is a battle between his conscience and the profit.

So what's the best decision to take he is afraid if he lets go of this opportunity the lotto agent will eventually find a location in their place and eventually lose the opportunity to make a profit.

If your friend is a smart person, having lotto on his shop will not only profited him from the contract of Lotto, any player that comes around the store will recognize the presence of the store, they will know about the shop and you will likely want to buy something from the shop whether that day or another time. If there are cold cheap drinks, they will sell because lotto players love gist a lot and a gist isn't complete if there is no drinks to be pass around.

I love the fact that he openly said he is a religious person that see gambling money as forbidden but he should know that faith doesn't feed you, the economy doesn't understand that you don't like gambling income, there are much more that income from the lotto gambling can do, he should think about it because he will be having customers to his shop he is complaining in the first place together with the gambling income.

However, if he choose faith over money, then he shouldn't force it, let the man go to another good area to establish their business without any delay.

hero member
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October 31, 2023, 05:13:34 PM
#64
Gambling is legal.
The lotto agent offers fair money and wants to run a legit business.
If he doesn't take agent's money he'll pay someone else and open it anyway.
It's not going to be the only gambling spot in town, so people who are addicted gamble anyway. By allowing him to open it you don't make more addicts. Maybe you'll make it more convenient for the addits to gamble because they won't have to go so far, but that's all.

I'd take the money, at least until his financial situation improves.
Then he can decide if he'll renew the lease. It's not permanent after all.
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October 31, 2023, 01:34:19 PM
#63
The best thing to do would be to learn how the lottery business works. Im not saying that he should change his morals but practiaclly speaking, he needs money. He should also study why there is no lottery on their place yet and verify it. To go with the offer would be the best option but if he has something in mind like other business where he doesnt have to “sacrifice” morals. He can consider it too.

I don't think he even needs to learn that; there is no experience needed for him here. What's needed is for him to lease out that space to them. At the end of the day, he gets paid; he's in need of money, and he can't hold up a business of his choice at that location due to the high rate of competition. Now an opportunity has presented itself. What's there for him to accept? That's what he should do without thinking about the outcome or his morals.
 
What's most important is that the business is legal, and there is no time when the government is going to come after him for renting out space for illegal businesses. This does not even require more thinking; the more time he spends thinking about his morals, the more time the agent has to search for space elsewhere where he is a businessman, and the more time wasted, the more money that could have been made also wasted.
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October 31, 2023, 01:06:12 PM
#62
Without a lotto outlet near where they live, people can still gamble online, maybe that's the only thing missing in your friends mind. Technology has developed, you can carry out gambling activities anywhere, including in a private room, other people will never know that you often gamble without discussing your activities with them. Your friend has a soul that always thinks positively, his morals still really care about other people, he will consider it a mistake if he rents out his shop as a lotto outlet. However, based on my experience, when morals play an important role in life, it will be very difficult to change decisions.

I'm waiting for the continuation of your friend's story, whether he maintains his morals or allows his shop to be used as a lotto outlet.
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October 31, 2023, 12:50:11 PM
#61
Forget about partnering with a lottery outlet, and he'd better think about other ventures if he can't compete with large and popular grocery stores. That would be better for him than going against his conscience and morals because he had encouraged people around his shop to gamble and buy lottery tickets. At least, that's what I will do instead of feeling uncomfortable with the decisions I make. Often we are faced with decisions like that, and it will depend on our conscience and morals. If we only think about the benefits, please take the opportunity. But if there is resistance from within, it's best not to take it because it might make you regret renting out the shop. What decision did your friend make?
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October 31, 2023, 11:14:24 AM
#60
First I would like to state that Gambling is legal in our country

This is my friend's story, business is not good in my friend's store which he owns the location is highly commercial but he cannot compete with the large and popular groceries nearby so he decided to stop operation and just offer to lease or rent it.

Because of the location a lottery agent who has a license approached him and is looking for a good place to set up his lottery, my friend's place is very much suited because there's no lotto outlet in that place, and with so many people coming and going and the fact that lotto is very popular in our country, the agent wants to lease at a very good price and a share of the income of the lotto.

He thinks that with the lotto outlet, he will encourage people to gamble which is against his morals so it is a battle between his conscience and the profit.

So what's the best decision to take he is afraid if he lets go of this opportunity the lotto agent will eventually find a location in their place and eventually lose the opportunity to make a profit.
I think he has to try with lottery outlet, that was actually my job some years ago that is where I was a Bit into gambling. If you are living here in the Philippines I think it is not against his morale as proceeds of the lottery bets will go to donations of ambulance and other health related machines. Opportunity comes once so I think he has to grab it or else other business minded people will take that.
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October 31, 2023, 10:49:05 AM
#59
The best thing to do would be to learn how the lottery business works. Im not saying that he should change his morals but practiaclly speaking, he needs money. He should also study why there is no lottery on their place yet and verify it. To go with the offer would be the best option but if he has something in mind like other business where he doesnt have to “sacrifice” morals. He can consider it too.
Agree with you, everyone needs money to meet their living needs and also to collect some savings for future needs so that if business has obtained permit and is legal then there is no need to think about morals and conscience as long as we do not violate regulations existing.
Lottery is type of gambling that is quite popular in several countries and there are even government programs that have lottery for charity so if we think too much that the gambling business is business that sacrifices morals and conscience then we will never be able to develop by taking advantage of opportunities that may not be possible came twice.

It better to accept the offer and forget about your conscience because when we experience financial problems, there are not necessarily other people who want to care about helping us with the problems we are facing.
Opportunities like this are opportunities that we are always waiting for, especially since we can make quite large amounts of money consistently.
Some people do put legalities and permits ahead of morals when they are looking for chances. If a business, like a lotto, is legal and could make you money, I can see how you might see it as a good idea without being weighed down by guilt.

But it's important to ask: Are chances only about making money? It is absolutely necessary to think carefully about the long-term effects and results of putting money before ethics. Chances come and go, but the effects of choices made out of necessity rather than rightness can last for a long time. It's not really a problem; it's a standard dilemma where you have to choose between making quick money and doing the right thing.
legendary
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October 31, 2023, 07:52:43 AM
#58
Lotto players still have their own choice if they will bet or not. I don't think it should be against his conscience. There are chances that these players are already old bettors of lotto and he might be the one that will ease the way their bet especially if the next outlet is way far from theirs.
It's legal so he ain't doing anything wrong, he is just offering the space for the lotto business and who knows if one of the bettors near him will be the one who will get the jackpot.
I am not against this and there's also a rule that no 18-year-old below should be allowed to bet which means every patron will be in their right mind before they make their bets. I think this is a good chance for him to make some profits out of that space that cannot be used or won't make profits from other businesses.
I didn't know lotto agents would be the ones moving forward to offer this kind of deal, I thought those who want to open that type of business would be the ones who will apply for that service. Thank you for the information.
sr. member
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October 31, 2023, 07:24:39 AM
#57
He thinks that with the lotto outlet, he will encourage people to gamble which is against his morals so it is a battle between his conscience and the profit.
You already stated that gambling is legal in your country so there is no law against being a gambler, this makes it a thing of choice. I don't actually see gambling as bad, it's just a game of chance similar to most of the things we do in life include career jobs and businesses. When he was starting his business, he never knew he will not succeed, he believed he will make progress but unfortunately, it didn't happen... he just participated in gambling. What then is the moral burden in this? It is obvious your friend have a wrong mindset about gambling.

He has opportunity of making good money and if he misses it, someone else will pick it and he will watch the lotto business established.
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