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ultimately, they trying to clean his reputation here. they presented the will to solve all "misunderstandings" and accusations. Mostly blamed everyone else first as a liar, fake accounter. Only after much pressure from forum user, they agreed to release the funds and allow users to withdraw his money.
Now we know they use fake team member, reporting fake volume, fake London office. It seems only real is his love of money.

Quote from: IconFirm on December 11, 2019, 08:42:24 AM

Yup - they're also using fake/stolen images for their team members:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.53314226

Stay away from this scam outfit!

I have archived this because it is located in the topic created by p2pb2b account and can be deleted.

https://web.archive.org/web/20191212112059/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5205331.msg53322716
https://web.archive.org/web/20191212112336/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5205331.120

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Yup - they're also using fake/stolen images for their team members:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.53314226

Stay away from this scam outfit!

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Quote from: ethereumnews on December 07, 2019, 10:06:07 AM

I knew from the very begining P2PB2B was a scam. I work as promoter for many projects and often get contacted by marketing agents of P2PB2B who often bloated about how great their exchange was. InstantBitex exchange is also in same league but the difference is that it did not charge that much for listing. It had a different, evil plan.

InstantBitex has my 3ETH and it is not doing withdrawals. Several blogs, people on twitter and even on bitcointalk have complained about their withdrawals not being processed.

Withdrawals are done manually and from the past two months, ETH/BTC/LTC/DOGE withdrawals are not being processed.

Many people did not realise p2pb2b was a scam because they believed the inflated fake figures being shown at CMC.

Anything that is owned or operated by Ukrainian scammer Valerii Solodovnyk is a scam including coinsbit and all the other fake exchanges: https://twitter.com/AngryBeur/status/1191416253564571650

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One step would also be to stop using CMC in general. They just list everything they see, sell ad spots to ponzi schemes and don't really filter fake volume. I'm actually developing a "better CMC" and you can give it a shot if you want: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/crypto-prices-trades-volume-in-realtime-excluding-fake-volume-5194756 (this is the "ANN" thread I made, more information is given there).

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I knew from the very begining P2PB2B was a scam. I work as promoter for many projects and often get contacted by marketing agents of P2PB2B who often bloated about how great their exchange was. InstantBitex exchange is also in same league but the difference is that it did not charge that much for listing. It had a different, evil plan.

InstantBitex has my 3ETH and it is not doing withdrawals. Several blogs, people on twitter and even on bitcointalk have complained about their withdrawals not being processed.

Withdrawals are done manually and from the past two months, ETH/BTC/LTC/DOGE withdrawals are not being processed.

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Quote from: fratoshi on December 01, 2019, 12:27:24 PM

P2PB2B, Coinsbit and the other exchange from the mafia have been very smart and opportunistic to take over the market now that Cryptopia and other shitcoin exchanges have left there are literary no competitors from them, i bet they will be the top scamming exchanganges next year 2020, and we are the only ones that can alert the community about it

There is truth is what you say about these scam exchanges operating throughout 2020. They will continue to charge $100,000 to list IEOs and coins even though they are really behind massive pumps of trash such as Jewelcoin and so many others.

As long as we help and alert each other as a community we might be able to disrupt their plans even if temporarily.

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[/quote]We plan to create a topic in which we will analyze each complaint individually. To ultimately resolve all current misunderstandings.
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Until then,
What about support ticket #8425?
Filed November 6th?
That’s over a month ago since you stole my coins.
And now I’m blocked from “support” for asking for MY shit.
Please let me know about that.
Thanks

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Here is also my thread about how they are scamming $3000 from me, buy not letting me withdraw. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.53277804

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Quote from: JollyGood on December 01, 2019, 12:17:45 PM

Quote from: Lauda on December 01, 2019, 10:27:55 AM

Quote from: JollyGood on December 01, 2019, 10:06:52 AM

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have been charging project owners ridiculous amounts of money to list their IEOs because they cite the fake data on CMC as the reason/proof.

This is a non-reason. They can charge whatever they want, and you might want to look into most current top 20 exchanges if that is a reason for you. Thread context for other accusations: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/p2pb2b-resolving-scam-alerts-and-misunderstandings-5205331.

I don't know who that Ukrainian person is.

Yes they can charge listing fees as they deem fit whether they are a scam or not.

If listing fees are based on non-existent trade volumes then they will be (and have been) exposed therefore they are a scam.

If they use fake trade volumes to entice gullible users to sign up and then selective scam them and there have been several complaints then they are a scam - simple.

The Ukrainian person is Valerii Solodovnyk - the scammer operator behind multiple fake exchanges including p2pb2b and coinsbit: https://twitter.com/AngryBeur/status/1191416253564571650

We will have to agree to disagree on our opinions. Wish you success with your p2pb2b bounty.

You're looking weak here. If you are convinced about this scam then you must treat lauda the same as the last bounty manager else you are clearly just a coward.

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Lauda is willing to work with any project regardless of whether they are a clear danger. Agreeing to just go your separate ways and WISHING HIM WELL is very weak.

Eddie13 just got red trust from lauda for essentially backing your findings and actually speaking the truth that escrowing for them will not change the fact you have demonstrated it is a scam. Other DT will just sell him out and leave him there to get trust abused whilst lauda and his pals ensure they make money from helping get their sigs rolling.

Whilst you are all terrified of lauda and his gang you will not do your jobs as DT and therefore are not doing your best to protect honest members here.

@fratoshi... well said but watch all the scam hunter fade away and go quiet now lauda is working with them.

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P2PB2B, Coinsbit and the other exchange from the mafia have been very smart and opportunistic to take over the market now that Cryptopia and other shitcoin exchanges have left there are literary no competitors from them, i bet they will be the top scamming exchanganges next year 2020, and we are the only ones that can alert the community about it

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Quote from: Lauda on December 01, 2019, 10:27:55 AM

Quote from: JollyGood on December 01, 2019, 10:06:52 AM

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have been charging project owners ridiculous amounts of money to list their IEOs because they cite the fake data on CMC as the reason/proof.

This is a non-reason. They can charge whatever they want, and you might want to look into most current top 20 exchanges if that is a reason for you. Thread context for other accusations: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/p2pb2b-resolving-scam-alerts-and-misunderstandings-5205331.

I don't know who that Ukrainian person is.

Yes they can charge listing fees as they deem fit whether they are a scam or not.

If listing fees are based on non-existent trade volumes then they will be (and have been) exposed therefore they are a scam.

If they use fake trade volumes to entice gullible users to sign up and then selective scam them and there have been several complaints then they are a scam - simple.

The Ukrainian person is Valerii Solodovnyk - the scammer operator behind multiple fake exchanges including p2pb2b and coinsbit: https://twitter.com/AngryBeur/status/1191416253564571650

We will have to agree to disagree on our opinions. Wish you success with your p2pb2b bounty.

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Quote from: JollyGood on December 01, 2019, 10:06:52 AM

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have been charging project owners ridiculous amounts of money to list their IEOs because they cite the fake data on CMC as the reason/proof.

This is a non-reason. They can charge whatever they want, and you might want to look into most current top 20 exchanges if that is a reason for you. Thread context for other accusations: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/p2pb2b-resolving-scam-alerts-and-misunderstandings-5205331.

I don't know who that Ukrainian person is.

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Quote from: Lauda on December 01, 2019, 09:46:09 AM

Quote from: JollyGood on December 01, 2019, 09:38:41 AM

Quote from: P2PB2B Bounty Manager on November 28, 2019, 06:53:39 AM

We plan to create a topic in which we will analyze each complaint individually. To ultimately resolve all current misunderstandings.

We will not launch asignature campaign without escrow. Waiting for your reply

No, there is nothing you can say that would change the opinions that users have formed on p2pb2b and its sister scam coinbit

I'm about to accept escrowing their campaign pending elaborations on a few more cases. This is therefore, untrue. I hope that they can amend their issues rather than condemning them for trying to.

Sure, if you are happy to proceed that way then that something you have thought through but my issue remains with the scam aspect.

Just because they might in future run a scam-free bounty campaign does not make it a scam-free project because the bounty campaign is directly related to p2pb2b being promoted.

p2pb2b2 have been selective scamming users and have been charging project owners ridiculous amounts of money to list their IEOs because they cite the fake data on CMC as the reason/proof.

The owner of coinsbit and p2pb2b is Ukrainian scammer Valerii Solodovnyk who has several other scam exchanges: https://twitter.com/AngryBeur/status/1191416253564571650

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Quote from: JollyGood on December 01, 2019, 09:38:41 AM

Quote from: P2PB2B Bounty Manager on November 28, 2019, 06:53:39 AM

We plan to create a topic in which we will analyze each complaint individually. To ultimately resolve all current misunderstandings.

We will not launch asignature campaign without escrow. Waiting for your reply

No, there is nothing you can say that would change the opinions that users have formed on p2pb2b and its sister scam coinbit

I'm about to accept escrowing their campaign pending elaborations on a few more cases. This is therefore, untrue. I hope that they can amend their issues rather than condemning them for trying to.

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Quote from: P2PB2B Bounty Manager on November 28, 2019, 06:53:39 AM

We plan to create a topic in which we will analyze each complaint individually. To ultimately resolve all current misunderstandings.

We will not launch asignature campaign without escrow. Waiting for your reply

No, there is nothing you can say that would change the opinions that users have formed on p2pb2b and its sister scam coinbit

Both are scams designed to steal from investors using selective scamming techniques as well as using inflated figures just to start charging $100,000 from new coins and token owners to list them and run IEOs.

Ukrainian scammer Valerii Solodovnyk has been fooling and scamming for too long: https://twitter.com/AngryBeur/status/1191416253564571650

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Quote from: waitforme on November 29, 2019, 02:44:45 AM

I only trust the Binance exchange because the trading volume here is quite good and looks more real than the other exchanges.

Go away you shitposting baboon and let adults handle this.

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It's ridiculous, I've been in this market for a few years and I only heard the name of this exchange a few months ago. Here they list for low quality projects and no page competitiveness. If it is best to determine the top of the exchange, it is best to statistics the number of users and the number of active users in a day. All exchanges have the same drawback is that the virtual trading volume is too much. I only trust the Binance exchange because the trading volume here is quite good and looks more real than the other exchanges.

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Quote from: P2PB2B Bounty Manager on November 28, 2019, 06:53:39 AM

We plan to create a topic in which we will analyze each complaint individually. To ultimately resolve all current misunderstandings.

We will not launch asignature campaign without escrow. Waiting for your reply

I support the initiative to resolve objection against your exchange. it can be a good start of your positive promotion. I'm not sure why you have not already

About the signature, the final decision should be by Theymos or any forum administrator. similarly has already been here when is Yobit not allowed to participate in advertising on this forum auction.

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Quote from: suchmoon on November 27, 2019, 04:28:42 PM

Escrow would at least ensure that campaign participants don't get scammed, so that's a good thing.

As for the exchange itself - I don't have a strong opinion yet. It certainly seems shady AF, similar "customer is always wrong" attitude like Livecoin or Yobit. I haven't had time to look through all the accusations to gauge how credible they are but if I was taking an escrow role I would probably want to spend some time on that in order to form an opinion.

Thanks for the input. The situation doesn't seem as bad as with Livecoin or Yobit, and they seem to be willing to address the accusations that they can before the campaign starts. I'll wait for that.

Quote from: P2PB2B Bounty Manager on November 28, 2019, 06:53:39 AM

We plan to create a topic in which we will analyze each complaint individually. To ultimately resolve all current misunderstandings.

Thanks. This would probably enable me to help you.

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Quote from: suchmoon on November 22, 2019, 02:04:41 PM

They're running a signature campaign now: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/p2pb2b-signature-campaign-weekly-rewards-in-eth-5203715

Oh dear. A Yobit II type PR disaster.....

I was asked to escrow the new campaign to ensure that there are no issues here. What's the consensus here? I can't attest to the volume, but if I start tagging for fake volume then I'd have to tag >99% of the exchanges?

I remember Yahoo opened a topic about managing Yobit campaign and asking suggestion from the forum users. My advice to do same thing.

there are many accusations against them. some have been solved, some just ignored. To be honest, some of the allegations were not realistic and without enough proof.
but there is definitely a problem with withdrawing some of the altcoins. (It's not about Yobit Cheesy

) Fake volume might not be such an obvious problem if they not to report a larger volume than Binance. Fake office in the UK also does not help.
I understand they want to improve his trust here, but I think the signature campaign can't help if they ignore user complaints.
Best luck whatever you decide.

We plan to create a topic in which we will analyze each complaint individually. To ultimately resolve all current misunderstandings.

We will not launch asignature campaign without escrow. Waiting for your reply

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