BEWARE OF SUPER SCAM: P2PB2B claim to be worlds biggest exchange ! - page 4.

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Quote from: Lauda on November 27, 2019, 06:14:45 AM

Quote from: IconFirm on November 22, 2019, 05:06:00 PM

Quote from: suchmoon on November 22, 2019, 03:04:41 PM

They're running a signature campaign now: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/p2pb2b-signature-campaign-weekly-rewards-in-eth-5203715

Oh dear. A Yobit II type PR disaster.....

I was asked to escrow the new campaign to ensure that there are no issues here. What's the consensus here? I can't attest to the volume, but if I start tagging for fake volume then I'd have to tag >99% of the exchanges?

Escrow would at least ensure that campaign participants don't get scammed, so that's a good thing.

As for the exchange itself - I don't have a strong opinion yet. It certainly seems shady AF, similar "customer is always wrong" attitude like Livecoin or Yobit. I haven't had time to look through all the accusations to gauge how credible they are but if I was taking an escrow role I would probably want to spend some time on that in order to form an opinion.

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Quote from: examplens on November 27, 2019, 06:46:52 AM

Quote from: Lauda on November 27, 2019, 06:14:45 AM

Quote from: IconFirm on November 22, 2019, 05:06:00 PM

Quote from: suchmoon on November 22, 2019, 03:04:41 PM

They're running a signature campaign now: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/p2pb2b-signature-campaign-weekly-rewards-in-eth-5203715

Oh dear. A Yobit II type PR disaster.....

I was asked to escrow the new campaign to ensure that there are no issues here. What's the consensus here? I can't attest to the volume, but if I start tagging for fake volume then I'd have to tag >99% of the exchanges?

I remember Yahoo opened a topic about managing Yobit campaign and asking suggestion from the forum users. My advice to do same thing.

I'm not managing anything. They're gonna run the campaign with or without an escrow anyway. Lips sealed

Quote from: examplens on November 27, 2019, 06:46:52 AM

I understand they want to improve his trust here, but I think the signature campaign can't help if they ignore user complaints.

Disclaimer: I know next to nothing about these accusations at the time of writing this. However, this comes back to my post regarding a flag on some exchange not long ago. Most exchanges are going to ignore these complaints, and we don't have sufficient access to verify anything which leads to this problem. They asked for help, and I almost provided it before I saw this. Whatever people decide is the right choice, I'm fine with that.

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Quote from: Lauda on November 27, 2019, 06:14:45 AM

Quote from: IconFirm on November 22, 2019, 05:06:00 PM

Quote from: suchmoon on November 22, 2019, 03:04:41 PM

They're running a signature campaign now: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/p2pb2b-signature-campaign-weekly-rewards-in-eth-5203715

Oh dear. A Yobit II type PR disaster.....

I was asked to escrow the new campaign to ensure that there are no issues here. What's the consensus here? I can't attest to the volume, but if I start tagging for fake volume then I'd have to tag >99% of the exchanges?

I remember Yahoo opened a topic about managing Yobit campaign and asking suggestion from the forum users. My advice to do same thing.

there are many accusations against them. some have been solved, some just ignored. To be honest, some of the allegations were not realistic and without enough proof.
but there is definitely a problem with withdrawing some of the altcoins. (It's not about Yobit Cheesy

) Fake volume might not be such an obvious problem if they not to report a larger volume than Binance. Fake office in the UK also does not help.
I understand they want to improve his trust here, but I think the signature campaign can't help if they ignore user complaints.
Best luck whatever you decide.

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Quote from: IconFirm on November 22, 2019, 05:06:00 PM

Quote from: suchmoon on November 22, 2019, 03:04:41 PM

They're running a signature campaign now: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/p2pb2b-signature-campaign-weekly-rewards-in-eth-5203715

Oh dear. A Yobit II type PR disaster.....

I was asked to escrow the new campaign to ensure that there are no issues here. What's the consensus here? I can't attest to the volume, but if I start tagging for fake volume then I'd have to tag >99% of the exchanges?

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Quote from: examplens on November 25, 2019, 07:22:00 PM

Quote from: Ayush rana on November 23, 2019, 06:56:15 AM

I am not understanding, how they are able to get alot of IEOs on exchange even after lot of failure and scam accusations.

Poor, unfinished projects, going to be listed on p2pb2b IEO. the only goal is to get some money and leave it. Potential investors if they have any, will find out after 6-12 months that they have trash tokens on his p2pb2b account which are worthless.

Quote from: JohnBitCo on November 24, 2019, 03:08:00 AM

I have no idea about P2PB2B exchange as this is the first time I hear about this exchange.
Anyways i just tried to see who are the accepted participants from their sheet, but it has not being made public. Although no one will participate in it but if anyone do, he wont be getting any rewards, because there is no transparency there.

how is it possible that you first heard about the exchange with $1.5 million of reported volume Shocked

It is one of the biggest crypto exchanges.

One of the biggest crypto exchanges, from what perspective? Them or traders? Tongue

Guess, they are not getting a lot of sig participants and they even restricted the access of the spreadsheet. I thought they want to change the image, but still no transparency eh!

Really bad reputation in the market. Usually sig campaign paying in btc or eth are easily filled up but this one, seems they are being avoided. huh! Tongue

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Quote from: Ayush rana on November 23, 2019, 06:56:15 AM

I am not understanding, how they are able to get alot of IEOs on exchange even after lot of failure and scam accusations.

Poor, unfinished projects, going to be listed on p2pb2b IEO. the only goal is to get some money and leave it. Potential investors if they have any, will find out after 6-12 months that they have trash tokens on his p2pb2b account which are worthless.

Quote from: JohnBitCo on November 24, 2019, 03:08:00 AM

I have no idea about P2PB2B exchange as this is the first time I hear about this exchange.
Anyways i just tried to see who are the accepted participants from their sheet, but it has not being made public. Although no one will participate in it but if anyone do, he wont be getting any rewards, because there is no transparency there.

how is it possible that you first heard about the exchange with $1.5 million of reported volume Shocked

It is one of the biggest crypto exchanges.

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Quote from: suchmoon on November 22, 2019, 03:04:41 PM

They're running a signature campaign now: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/p2pb2b-signature-campaign-weekly-rewards-in-eth-5203715

I have no idea about P2PB2B exchange as this is the first time I hear about this exchange.
Anyways i just tried to see who are the accepted participants from their sheet, but it has not being made public. Although no one will participate in it but if anyone do, he wont be getting any rewards, because there is no transparency there.

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Quote from: ulhaq on November 24, 2019, 01:41:49 AM

Still listed as #2 by 30-day adjusted volume.

Is there a reputable list of exchanges anywhere? Maybe using some of the statistics posted by the OP (website visits, social media followers, etc) if it is not possible to do it using volume data.

Crypto in general has become a toxic environment, there are scammers everywhere and those scammers fud each others, and sites like coinmarketcap unfortunately are part of that.

This is the wild west, better to use some reputable over the counter to trade BTC for Fiat and avoid to be scammed.

Good luck everyone

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Still listed as #2 by 30-day adjusted volume.

Is there a reputable list of exchanges anywhere? Maybe using some of the statistics posted by the OP (website visits, social media followers, etc) if it is not possible to do it using volume data.

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Quote from: Ayush rana on November 23, 2019, 06:56:15 AM

I am not understanding, how they are able to get alot of IEOs on exchange even after lot of failure and scam accusations.
I am 100% sure that p2pb2b scam,

Last year there was project name wemark,
They listed their token on p2pb2b because of large volume exchange,
Can you imagine?
Not a single order had been made for wemark token, How it is possible that exchange with having millions of dollars volume did not able to get single penny volume for WMK token.

It looks very obvious to me why they are growing very fast.

They first started like any other shitcoin exchange with competitors like Crex24 Stex Livecoin Tradesatoshi Cryptopia Coinexchange, etc

Some of those shitcoin exchanges are shit, others closed or got hacked, P2PB2B saw the oportunity to do like yobit did years ago, started to create fake coins and fake ICO, pump and dumps that seems attractive to people,

They are making money by selling those useless tokens to people, with fake IEO.

We need to investigate this more and alert the autorities about this massive scam of the people behind P2PB2B and Coinsbit

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I am not understanding, how they are able to get alot of IEOs on exchange even after lot of failure and scam accusations.
I am 100% sure that p2pb2b scam,

Last year there was project name wemark,
They listed their token on p2pb2b because of large volume exchange,
Can you imagine?
Not a single order had been made for wemark token, How it is possible that exchange with having millions of dollars volume did not able to get single penny volume for WMK token.

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Quote from: suchmoon on November 22, 2019, 03:04:41 PM

They're running a signature campaign now: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/p2pb2b-signature-campaign-weekly-rewards-in-eth-5203715

Thanks for warning. I am on it right now.

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Quote from: suchmoon on November 22, 2019, 03:04:41 PM

They're running a signature campaign now: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/p2pb2b-signature-campaign-weekly-rewards-in-eth-5203715

Oh dear. A Yobit II type PR disaster.....

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They're running a signature campaign now: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/p2pb2b-signature-campaign-weekly-rewards-in-eth-5203715

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despite all the warnings, and drawing attention about p2pb2b scam, we always have new scam accusations against them: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/p2b2pb-balance-is-gone-stolen-5202319
they will never stop, and there will always be people who are lazy to do a little research before sending his money.

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Quote from: stompix on November 16, 2019, 05:41:49 PM

Finally, coinmarketcap does something good
https://blog.coinmarketcap.com/2019/11/11/coinmarketcap-launches-new-liquidity-metric/

To be honest, I don't know how accurate this thing is and, it's weekend Grin

, I don't spend too much time digging around during it.
But, looking at the results and the ranking it might be accurate:

https://coinmarketcap.com/rankings/exchanges/liquidity/

Thanks for that, I knew they were promising something along those lines but, tbh I stopped looking at CMC out of disgust a couple of weeks ago.
First reaction (o/t, nothing to do with P2PB2B) is a total liquidity ~$342,000,000 plays a market cap of $234,229,860,214 and, even more ludicrously a claimed 24hr volume of $57,485,495,658.
How broken is that?

Edit: Hey stompix, have another merit for motivating me to post this: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/exchange-liquidity-according-to-cmcs-new-metric-there-aint-much-5202098

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Finally, coinmarketcap does something good
https://blog.coinmarketcap.com/2019/11/11/coinmarketcap-launches-new-liquidity-metric/

To be honest, I don't know how accurate this thing is and, it's weekend Grin

, I don't spend too much time digging around during it.
But, looking at the results and the ranking it might be accurate:

https://coinmarketcap.com/rankings/exchanges/liquidity/

This is how the top 10 looks:

which in my opinion si far more credible.

P2PB2B went down to 22 and the one and a half trillion volume fake EXX to 48.

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Quote from: Aktarus on November 15, 2019, 02:21:56 AM

lol... No seriously! This joke must stop
1700 unique visits per day and 1.5 Billion?
Don't tell me CMC cannot add a REAL value in their algorithm to make it more realistic.

The scammer owner of p2pb2b and coinsbit (Valerii Solodovnyk from Ukraine) is a disgrace.

He will go to any lengths to scam people. Using fake volumes is something he does with all his scam exchanges.

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Quote from: 81AleksandrKra on November 16, 2019, 09:12:11 AM

I don’t think that Coinsbit is much worse or better than others. Why is so much dirt directed at Coinsbit?

This type of deflection is called "Whataboutism".
If someone is a liar and a thief, then they are a liar and a thief. It makes no difference if they choose to operate in a field occupied by other liars and thieves.

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Quote from: fratoshi on November 15, 2019, 02:26:29 AM

The reported 3.5 mil USD of trading on the DOGE/USD market
But only have 29$ on the orderbook

How is that possible?
Can someone explain me?

Unfortunately, this can be said about almost all 300 exchanges that exist on the crypto market today. I don’t think that Coinsbit is much worse or better than others. Why is so much dirt directed at Coinsbit?

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