Topic: [BFL-Chip Groupbuy] $27,5/chip 50% - BTC,PayPal,SEPA - 420 sold, 0/100 batch #4 - page 16. (Read 41816 times)
July 27, 2013, 11:22:40 PM
Isn't Mr Teal further along? Would it be a problem jumping on his design.
July 27, 2013, 10:27:40 PM
Oh. I see...
With the options with have, I'll opt for MrTeal's.
Jala board looks like it is able to take 8 chips. But I'm not sure whether it will work...
With the options with have, I'll opt for MrTeal's.
Jala board looks like it is able to take 8 chips. But I'm not sure whether it will work...
July 27, 2013, 01:36:08 PM
Setup and production for test board 3K and for any changed board next 3K... So if I do production and test this is 6K... So for now Jalapeno is entering a center stage and we will modifay it... So we might end up doing only one...
July 27, 2013, 01:08:36 PM
I think he means, are they charging you a total of 6K euro for setup, and pennies per actual board, or is it 3K setup and 3K per board?
July 27, 2013, 04:47:48 AM
Well it is not much of a diference if you take 1 or 10 or even 100...
July 27, 2013, 04:40:50 AM
Does that mean they are charging you 3k euro for one board?
July 26, 2013, 05:18:39 AM
There is an even bigger wow now... It turns out they would like little less then 3000€ now. Explanation is that they didn't look at specks close enough when given me an estimation but they did now when they given me a quote... I'm guessing they figure out what this is for and they know I'm on a deadline... Need to regroup and find someone else ASAP... 3000€(+3000€ for make everything ready for production one) would mean that I can't sell boards for 200$ at the end and brake even...
So this is new plan:
1. Use board of Jalapeno and modify them with additional external board for tests
2. Find someone else to do the board(even if they did come recommended I don't trust them any more)
3. Get a board from MrTeal if all this fails
So this is new plan:
1. Use board of Jalapeno and modify them with additional external board for tests
2. Find someone else to do the board(even if they did come recommended I don't trust them any more)
3. Get a board from MrTeal if all this fails
July 24, 2013, 06:21:19 AM
You understand it correctly.The second email was a "clarification", more like a correction (yes they do contradict each other). It looks like we get 2 free sample chips for every 100 ordered but you can request additional that would be deducted from the amount ordered. WOW 1000€ for the test board...
July 24, 2013, 05:45:47 AM
I know English is not my first language but thous 2 mails contradict each other right?
Anyway I'm waiting for a quote for test board now that everything is ready... Estimate I got at start of GB was 1000€... (one off... so this is more expansive then production)...
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Let me break this down. For every 100 chips ordered, we simply provide 2 sample chips from the order up front. So you get 2 samples and then the remaining 98 chips later, completing the order for 100 chips.
However, you can request an additional amount of sample chips to be sent to you as well. We will allow up to 5% of the order to be shipped out as sample chips, so that would be 5 sample chips for every 100 ordered.
If you want to do that, just tell us the order and the amount of samples you'd like to receive, for each particular order.
We sincerely hope this helps you in your development and testing process.
Kind regards,
Jonathon Griffin
Marketing Coordinator
Butterfly Labs, Inc.
However, you can request an additional amount of sample chips to be sent to you as well. We will allow up to 5% of the order to be shipped out as sample chips, so that would be 5 sample chips for every 100 ordered.
If you want to do that, just tell us the order and the amount of samples you'd like to receive, for each particular order.
We sincerely hope this helps you in your development and testing process.
Kind regards,
Jonathon Griffin
Marketing Coordinator
Butterfly Labs, Inc.
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My apologies, but I think I need to make a clarification.
For every order of 100 chips, we provide 2 samples free of charge. However, in certain cases, we can allow additional chips to be sent along with the sample chips. Those requested are considered an advance on your order and will deduct from the total chips you ordered, for every particular order you've placed.
For example, if you order 100 chips, you will be entitled to 2 (free) samples, should you request them. However, you might be able to request additional chips to be sent with your samples, but those are an advance. In your case, you can request only 5% per order, that is, the samples are treated as if they were a part of the advance when determining the total we may be able to provide you along with your samples.
Hence, you request 5 chips for some order, we deduct the 2 samples, so you will receive 3 chips in advance. This means the completion of your order will come with 97 chips for that order.
Let me know if you need further clarification. Your samples and chip advance have been sent for the two orders you requested.
Kind regards,
Jonathon Griffin
Marketing Coordinator
Butterfly Labs, Inc.
But OK it looks like samples are free just additional chips are taken out of the order...For every order of 100 chips, we provide 2 samples free of charge. However, in certain cases, we can allow additional chips to be sent along with the sample chips. Those requested are considered an advance on your order and will deduct from the total chips you ordered, for every particular order you've placed.
For example, if you order 100 chips, you will be entitled to 2 (free) samples, should you request them. However, you might be able to request additional chips to be sent with your samples, but those are an advance. In your case, you can request only 5% per order, that is, the samples are treated as if they were a part of the advance when determining the total we may be able to provide you along with your samples.
Hence, you request 5 chips for some order, we deduct the 2 samples, so you will receive 3 chips in advance. This means the completion of your order will come with 97 chips for that order.
Let me know if you need further clarification. Your samples and chip advance have been sent for the two orders you requested.
Kind regards,
Jonathon Griffin
Marketing Coordinator
Butterfly Labs, Inc.
Anyway I'm waiting for a quote for test board now that everything is ready... Estimate I got at start of GB was 1000€... (one off... so this is more expansive then production)...
July 23, 2013, 04:14:23 PM
Also I want tell you that for not have problems with customs to sent with simple register airmail and not dhl or FedEx is awful these company always will pay taxes with these
July 23, 2013, 02:41:22 PM
one4many I guess no need to rush with chips... I will let you know if I end up needing them...
Sure no problem! I'll be on standby
All the best!
one4many
July 23, 2013, 01:36:37 PM
Got 2 tracking numbers. One for 2 chips and one for 10 chips... Nice... But they don't work... 
Well they might start working later...
one4many I guess no need to rush with chips... I will let you know if I end up needing them...
Well they might start working later...one4many I guess no need to rush with chips... I will let you know if I end up needing them...
July 23, 2013, 10:09:47 AM
Now I realy don't get it will I get 2 or 5 samples... I asked for 5 and asked if I can increase orders by 5 and got this replay
Well that was quick... I must say BFL communications is improving...
So I will get 2+5+5 samples and first 2 were send... So I have samples on the way as well...
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No. This sample offering is provided only on an individual basis, given we have enough supply on hand. In other words, you have no right to claim any more than 2 samples per 100 ordered. 5%is offered only as a courtesy.
Kind regards,
Jonathon Griffin
Marketing Coordinator
Butterfly Labs, Inc.
Now I don't know if this No apples to increasing the order or getting 5 chips... But since speed of communication is increasing I guess I will know that soon...Kind regards,
Jonathon Griffin
Marketing Coordinator
Butterfly Labs, Inc.
Well that was quick... I must say BFL communications is improving...
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"No" was in response to the only question in your prior e-mail. You cannot get additional samples from previous orders.
You cannot get an additional 3 samples 100070222 for a total of 5; the samples for this order have already been sent.
I have marked your other orders for 5 sample chips.
Thank you for your continued interest.
Kind regards,
Jonathon Griffin
Marketing Coordinator
Butterfly Labs, Inc.
You cannot get an additional 3 samples 100070222 for a total of 5; the samples for this order have already been sent.
I have marked your other orders for 5 sample chips.
Thank you for your continued interest.
Kind regards,
Jonathon Griffin
Marketing Coordinator
Butterfly Labs, Inc.
So I will get 2+5+5 samples and first 2 were send... So I have samples on the way as well...
July 23, 2013, 07:30:47 AM
Asshole move
July 23, 2013, 07:04:14 AM
I'll say. Taking sample chips out of the number of chips in the order...
July 23, 2013, 06:27:49 AM
Man bfl is shady
July 23, 2013, 03:19:19 AM
Hi guys (Luko),
I received a tracking number from BFL for 2 sample chips. As soon as I have them in my hand I will forward them on to Lucko.
It looks like they take a week to be delivered to Germany, unfortunately I'm away all week next week (hacker camp OHM2013 in NL).
So I guess the earliest I can send them to Lucko is Monday the week after next!
Lucko ... warm the PCB board up and get ready to do some real testing
All the best!
one4many
I received a tracking number from BFL for 2 sample chips. As soon as I have them in my hand I will forward them on to Lucko.
It looks like they take a week to be delivered to Germany, unfortunately I'm away all week next week (hacker camp OHM2013 in NL).
So I guess the earliest I can send them to Lucko is Monday the week after next!
Lucko ... warm the PCB board up and get ready to do some real testing
All the best!
one4many
July 23, 2013, 02:21:35 AM
Got this mail from BFL... It is a good bed news kind a thing... Lack of informations and them not answering mails in time...
That was for my last order and of I jumped at the chance to get more samples... But I figure out that 2 samples are taken out of the order not given extra...
Since I have 16 chips in first batch it is not a problem but not ideal since some might end up destroyed... I asked them if I can increase the orders by 5 chips so we will see what happens...
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You are in line to receive your sample chips. You may request additional samples to be taken out of your total order. In other words, the sample chips are provided from the total number of ordered chips.
Kind regards,
Jonathon Griffin
Marketing Coordinator
Butterfly Labs, Inc.
Kind regards,
Jonathon Griffin
Marketing Coordinator
Butterfly Labs, Inc.
That was for my last order and of I jumped at the chance to get more samples... But I figure out that 2 samples are taken out of the order not given extra...
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Let me break this down. For every 100 chips ordered, we simply provide 2 sample chips from the order up front. So you get 2 samples and then the remaining 98 chips later, completing the order for 100 chips.
However, you can request an additional amount of sample chips to be sent to you as well. We will allow up to 5% of the order to be shipped out as sample chips, so that would be 5 sample chips for every 100 ordered.
If you want to do that, just tell us the order and the amount of samples you'd like to receive, for each particular order.
We sincerely hope this helps you in your development and testing process.
Kind regards,
Jonathon Griffin
Marketing Coordinator
Butterfly Labs, Inc.
However, you can request an additional amount of sample chips to be sent to you as well. We will allow up to 5% of the order to be shipped out as sample chips, so that would be 5 sample chips for every 100 ordered.
If you want to do that, just tell us the order and the amount of samples you'd like to receive, for each particular order.
We sincerely hope this helps you in your development and testing process.
Kind regards,
Jonathon Griffin
Marketing Coordinator
Butterfly Labs, Inc.
Since I have 16 chips in first batch it is not a problem but not ideal since some might end up destroyed... I asked them if I can increase the orders by 5 chips so we will see what happens...
July 22, 2013, 05:19:16 PM
Well this should work with 2 chips and then we plan to add 2 more and see if it works. If it doesn't we will add capacitors into bank one by one and see what happens... This is not final board... But it was the first we created some time ago and decided that we should used it first just to make sure this part works...
EDIT: who knows it might end up working with 8
I don't think so but who knows...
EDIT: who knows it might end up working with 8
I don't think so but who knows... July 22, 2013, 05:07:16 PM
So assuming it works what's the hash going to be for this board?
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