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legendary
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August 20, 2015, 06:20:07 PM
Proposal to make Josh sell his Bitcoin home to cover the expenses of BFL. I mean these are all troubles brought about by Josh poking that Pedo bear anyway. Right? (In my opinion)

Why should the other BFL principles have to pay for Josh's mistakes?
Don't you agree?

All who agree say I.
All who disagree say Nay.
legendary
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I don't believe in denial.
August 20, 2015, 08:56:48 AM
TL;DR

BFL just got fucked again...

I still don't see the bill for Bruno PD (private detective)....is he not being compensated for all of his investigations into the happenings at BFL?

I thought he got a free trip to Kansas & dinner for his services Huh  Cheesy

As far as I remember Bruno didn't go and thus got "sentenced in absentia" earning him a restraining order to stay away from the most honourable mr. Zerlan c.s.
legendary
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I don't believe in denial.
August 20, 2015, 08:54:35 AM
TL;DR: Temporary Receivers [has to] get paid $926,214.96 [by BFL] for their services and expenses.[...]

I sense a bankruptcy coming... soon.
legendary
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August 13, 2015, 03:44:04 PM
TL;DR

BFL just got fucked again...

I still don't see the bill for Bruno PD (private detective)....is he not being compensated for all of his investigations into the happenings at BFL?

I thought he got a free trip to Kansas & dinner for his services Huh  Cheesy
legendary
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August 13, 2015, 01:20:33 PM
TL;DR

BFL just got fucked again...

I still don't see the bill for Bruno PD (private detective)....is he not being compensated for all of his investigations into the happenings at BFL?
vip
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August 12, 2015, 09:30:54 PM

I can't pretend these tears
Aren't overflowing steadily
I can't prevent this hurt from
Almost overtaking me
But I will stand and say goodbye
For you'll never be mine
Until you know the way it feels to fly

[Chorus]

So flutter through the sky
Butterfly
Spread your wings and fly
Butterfly
legendary
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Christian Antkow
August 12, 2015, 08:11:35 PM
TL;DR: Temporary Receivers get paid $926,214.96 for their services and expenses.

http://ia802308.us.archive.org/32/items/gov.uscourts.mowd.117531/gov.uscourts.mowd.117531.353.0.pdf



Case 4:14-cv-00815-BCW Document 353 Filed 08/12/15 Page 1 of 13

ORDER

This matter is before the Court on the Temporary Receiver Eric L. Johnson’s First, Second, Final, and Supplemental Fee Applications (Docs. #173, #212, #231, and #303). He seeks an order authorizing payment of $1,094,861.89, which includes $1,074,155.77 for services rendered and $20,706.12 in actual and necessary out-of-pocket expenses. After reviewing the premises of the fee applications, the record, and the applicable law, the Court grants in part the applications and authorizes a total payment of $926,214.96

...

B. OBJECTIONS

Defendants object to the Temporary Receiver’s fee applications on two principal grounds. First, Defendants argue that “the FTC should pay for any receivership professional fees and expenses because its ex parte action was unnecessary and resulted in significant fees and expenses that could have otherwise been spent providing refunds to any consumers who want them.” See Doc. #194 at 2. The Court disagrees. The TRO Order and the Stipulated Interim Order both provide that the Temporary Receiver and his professionals will be paid their reasonable fees from assets held by BFL. See Doc. #9 at 24; Doc. #54 at 24. Based on this language, which Defendants agreed to in the Stipulated Interim Order, the Court finds that BFL should pay the fees.

Second, Defendants contend that the fees and expenses are excessive and that discovery and a hearing are required. For the reasons identified, the Court agrees that the requested fees require reductions. The Court disagrees that a hearing is required. The Temporary Receiver submitted substantial documentation (e.g., billing statements, affidavits, etc.) that the Court carefully reviewed. Based on the record and materials submitted, the Court finds that it can assess fees and expenses without a hearing. Cf. K-Partners III, Ltd. v. WLM Hospitality Corp., 883 P.2d 604, 606 (Colo. Ct. App. 1994) (finding trial court abused discretion when it discharged receiver over objection without having a hearing, without any representation that fees were reasonable and necessary, and without evidence that services were performed).


C. REMAINING ISSUES

The Temporary Receiver’s final motion includes various miscellaneous matters related to his discharge. The Court reviewed all of the information and, for the most part, grants each request. Accordingly, it is hereby

ORDERED the Temporary Receiver’s First Application (Doc. #173) is GRANTED-IN- PART. It is further

ORDERED the Temporary Receiver’s Second Application (Doc. #212) is GRANTED- IN-PART. It is further

ORDERED the Temporary Receiver’s Motion to Approve Final Accounting, Final Approval of Fees and Expenses, Discharge of Receiver and Cancellation of Bond (Doc. #231) is GRANTED-IN-PART. It is further

ORDERED the Temporary Receiver’s Supplemental Application (Doc. #303) is GRANTED-IN-PART. It is further

ORDERED the Temporary Receiver is authorized to pay from the Receiver’s Reserve $926,214.96 distributed as follows to the extent these fees and expenses remain unpaid:




It is further

ORDERED the turnover to BFL of emails and voicemails that have come into the receivership email account established by the Temporary Receiver (“Receivership Email Account”) through the entry of this Order is AUTHORIZED. It is further

ORDERED the Temporary Receiver and his professionals are under no further obligation to review, log, or otherwise organize such emails and voicemails that come into the Receivership Email Account. It is further

ORDERED, to the extent the parties request additional information or actions from the Temporary Receiver, that he be reasonably compensated, upon proper application to this Court, for any reasonable time or costs expended regarding such requests. It is further

ORDERED the Temporary Receiver’s actions, and his professionals’ and agents’ actions, to date in this case are APPROVED and, that upon the filing of the Notice, the Temporary Receiver and his professionals and agents are thereby discharged from this case and they shall be relieved from all duties and responsibilities to this Court. It is further

ORDERED the Temporary Receiver is AUTHORIZED to cancel the Receiver’s Bond once the Notice is filed with this Court.

IT IS SO ORDERED.
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August 12, 2015, 08:04:51 AM
Can't we all just get along??

H@shKraker
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August 12, 2015, 03:58:11 AM
You might want to  polish those reading comprehension skills, cuz I never called you a conspiracy theorist. That would have been an insult to them.

Good on you being a total jackass consistently derailing the thread though. Slow clap for you, dunderpate.

All connected ignorant cunt!



There you go with your labeling again! Perfect example of how programmed you are with it! Same images with the same unimaginative  bullshit comments! Your using buzz words and you don't even know it! Showing just how ignorant you are! Obviously lacking any knowledge!

There is only on good, knowledge, there is only one bad, IGNORANCE!

You drank too much of their cool aid! As I say, social engineering is powerful weapon they use on all of us! No matter who your oppressor!

As for you stupid reference to me been a paranoid whatever, you wouldn't have a clue about the truth and how it sets your free obviously, otherwise you wouldn't be so quick to label and actually question, examine and look at things I've said instead of instantly doing what you have been programmed (we all went school, were all in same boat!) I'm not attacking anyone but merely saying what i have come to believe as I know what we are told is bullshit!

Bet you think CIA are sound when there's millions of evidence they run the drug business! A simple Google search shows 100's of times they been caught! But I suppose that's conspiracy theory too! Fuck evidence hey, documented over and over! Fuck that tony Blair is a war criminal well documented! Forget the whistleblowers that have come out over the decades just for other people ignorance to shrug it off!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA_involvement_in_Contra_cocaine_trafficking

http://www.arrestblair.org

No spine, no room for opening your mind to question everything and definitely one for labelling people instead of investigation yourself and teaching yourself, as others can't and are actively steering you away from truth! Truth sets you free! Fear (fictional events actually realised) is what you manifest to yourself and create yourself, influenced by symbolism and colors because your ignorant and think your superior and it couldn't work on you! Like I said, the hardest part is admitting to yourself you have been wrong and told a lot.of bullshit! Its hard I know, especially for a monumental asshole!

If you don't want to learn, that's your problem and shows exactly what you are, ignorant! You are apart of the problem! But you don't see it! And you wonder why THEY call us sheeple! Are you fucking kidding me! Here's a book of someone that did exactly what bfl and others have done with the social engineering framework that's in place! Any one can use these 'tricks' ton get ahead, and most people without empathy do! The system is design for unempathetic, selfish dick Turpins like josh and co to succeed!

https://www.waterstones.com/book/social-engineering/christopher-hadnagy/paul-wilson/9780470639535?gclid=CKbw6fSTo8cCFSQXwwodIDsLvw

So good that book is, but hey, I'm a conspiracy theorist! Fuck documented facts and evidence hey!

Everything's upside down and back to front but you prefer to label and not look into anything I say, or others intact! You avatar name is bang on the money!

Yes, I'm a conspiracy theorist showing you the FACTS above proven time and time again in whatever decade you want to look at! But yes, governments their for you! They love you, everything they do they do it for you!

Listen, sorry about the ad homaein stuff, just that there is so much evidence proven on so much yet people still prefer to label buzz words on people instead of just looking for themselves! Its sad :-(

We argue and do what were doing here, divide and conquer, you don't see it? Still got the blinkers on? Why can't you see its all manipulated through centralisation, look at you all try centralise bitcoin (whether mining, storing btc, fundamental protocol changes towards centralisation even) when technically itnhas as much worth as fiat, nothing! The only thing that as wealth is your labour! What do you give yours up for? Fiat? Thought so! You actually understand UK left gold standard before UK in 1931, soon followed in 1933 by USA! You know its lost 98% of its value since 1970 and its your 'currency' that's lost value, not then price of things going up. Mass manufacturing makes it cheaper! Suppose you think inflation is awesome too!

BFL principles are just the same as your oppressors but you can't see it because of ignorance and that's why you will get fooled and robbed again and again until you see the truth. Its right in front of your faces hidden in plain site. As sick as it is, you gotta tip your hat to them! They even tell and show you what they are going to do because its all apart of the ritual they believe in. As I say, they do even if you don't!

WWF(E) was one they loved to put messages in. Twin towers anyone! You still think 9/11 was done by a man in a cave on the most sophisticated defence.system in the world? Seriously? Even though bush and bin laden family are friends?



But hey, EPA are sound that just polluted the colardo river 'accidently'! You couldn't see the 'revolving door' policy? even though its WELL documented!

http://rense.com/general33/fd.htmhtm

Why am I wasting my time on ignorant people with greed here! Cant help all and some don't even want it! Most it seems these days :-(
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August 11, 2015, 10:47:52 PM
You might want to  polish those reading comprehension skills, cuz I never called you a conspiracy theorist. That would have been an insult to them.

Good on you being a total jackass consistently derailing the thread though. Slow clap for you, dunderpate.

All connected ignorant cunt!
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Mmmh mhmhh mmmm.
August 11, 2015, 10:44:24 PM
You might want to  polish those reading comprehension skills, cuz I never called you a conspiracy theorist. That would have been an insult to them.

Good on you being a total jackass consistently derailing the thread though. Slow clap for you, dunderpate.
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ELYSIAN | Pre-TGE 5.21.2018 | TGE 6.04.2018
August 11, 2015, 03:11:18 AM
Okay, last time I checkd this guy was raided, and served in court to pay "xyz" fee.

Now whats the update? Its amazing that the missouri court is still doing this case cause honestly how long has it been?


There not there to stop real criminals, they are sliced from the same block of wood!

There there to make sure citizens like yourself stay in line!

You all thinking there is a thing called justice which is absolutely astonishing!

Look up IRS vs church of Scientology. Scientology won by just overloading the IRS with their own complaints, making it public they used tax money to pay bar bills at meetings at the IRS which was nothing in the grand scheme, but to the public! In 1993 IRS gave up when d mascavige said he'd drop the 10,000 of cases if they were made a religion and became tax exempt! Head of IRS said really! And bam, Scientology ( which was l. R hubbord having a fucking joke on the world, running away from paying tax) actually got a religion status due to Scientology knowing what a joke it all is!

Genious!

Crooks work the crooked system,(bfl,black arrow, knc, amt etc etc), good people are tied down by it! This is 101 if you ever want to become a so called 'criminal' and not work in the framework thats been made for you! Actually live free!

You wanna be free? Your a criminal then in the eyes of legistration!

Social engineering is easy, go read a book written by someone explaining how he did it all his life lol

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Social-Engineering-The-Human-Hacking/dp/0470639539#productDescription_secondary_view_div_1439281131689

Piece.... Of.... Piss....

On a side note, the audio book of said book gets removed from YouTube on a daily basis! Just like ALOT of things..... (Yes.... I'm looking at you Google, the transhumanists!)
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August 11, 2015, 02:44:27 AM
With the obligatory noddy9000 post now behind us



it's pretty obvious that BFL management thought that they'd be the Bitcoin Kings for years to come, providing their feudal serfs a small slice of the crypto-pie... after it became mushy, worm-eaten, etc after Two WeeksTM

I have no idea why the FTC didn't name a couple other names in BFL management that Bruno has thoroughly vetted countless times in this forum.

Your one true ignorant, greedy mother fucker! The fact you use the world 'conspiracy theorists' to anyone denotes you are incapable of questioned things and used their own brain to study truth otherwise you would never use that word, as conspiracy theorist is the conspiracy knumb nuts! Any one who questions authority, the law (legistration infact, NOT law!), politics, peoples agenda%s & everything they are told from so called 'educators' are labeled there and then!

Just like racism is a word made up for the IGNORANT! Your ignorance is strong, but confirmation bias is a very VERY powerful weapon. Teamed up with cognitive disadence and an environment you can't escape the systematic programming how doany of us have a chance?

Again, you take things too personal, were in the same boat, you just don't want ton open your eyes from your dream! You are in then matrix still, soon, they will be connection your biological body to the machines THEY crated! What can go wrrong!

Fucking muppet sheep lining up like the IGNORANT mofo's they are jumping off then cliff to hell!

Well done sheep..... Well done for all the trust you put in your unempathetic, satanic child sacrificing peodophile cryptocratic rulers (that have been around for 1000s of years) when all the evidence you need is crying out at you to open your mind away from the enclosed priosions of presumption and idiocy of chasing so called 'wealth' when all the wealth you need you have in your labour and the good friends you meet and make along the way!

But hey, having something we call currency over doing things for each other to help progression is just such a good idea that worked flawlessly for 1000's of years right! Hahahaha. Nope, our old oppressors used it the same as ours do today,

Tool = different, results = same!

And you dumb, greedy, self absorbed people chasing bitcoin (not Bitcoin the protocol, the INVENTION) are just as stupid as people believing in fiat (and more than 60% still think its backed by gold! Mwha haha haha haha) because its no different! The fact that the max amount of btc can be changed (through concensious, and we are centralising that from day 1!), 'burn% them off to make side chains! (Retard idea that somehow has made traction due to idiocricy). Who you think is making these decisions? Not the general community or the world, that's for sure.

Bitcoin is so centralised between a few its insane! Over 80% of the coins are in the hands of your so called leaders and their crony partners. They centralise it all, completely negating the decentralisation aspect of it and its already a joke as a currency. Mining side, centralised, mostly in China!

Remember we lived in tribes and looked after each other instead of putting debt on each other? No, you u wouldn't because you've been brought up in this sick twisted environment created to create more of them!

I've been right about everything, crash in 2008, war on Iraq, libyia & Syria before it happened. BTW, turkey will allow USA,UK forces east to get to where Syria officials are holding out! Your so called leaders are killing anyone who may be able.fight back, because they know dumbed downed poisoned, un knowledgeable idiots like the western society are alresldy too far gone to do anything for themselves, nevermind others!  Why you think they have been using all these chemicals, programming at school, owning all media, education, medical, work and pensions.... Everything! Through centralisation lol.

Mark my words, when the ext generation is gone (sorry gleb thats yours :-( ) and there is no one excentrict left like gleb (few and too far between) and all then history from good people is gone (dead) the hammer will strike, and you will all go running to the people striking the hammer! Your oppressors for the real oppressors, GOVERMENTS! And they do what there oppressors tell them! See how it works, you lot don't have a clue who the wizard is behind the curtin!

If you went away and even bothered to question your own ignorance on what I say instead of being a big head then you would have to see for yourself that my points.are valid, but you won't! That's what people have been programmed! To be presumptuous and find a quick answer, solution and that works for them then. Doesn't matter the fact that the truth is much deeper, they don't look because of their confirmation bias from media, which is 100% owned, even the alt media (aj, Adam kokesch, Gerald celente, mark (should)dice etc etc)

As I've said before, bill Maloney is the only real person digging into then core, institutionalised peodophile rings run this world! Your police, courts, politicians, barristers, judges, education officers etc etc are all apart of, or have been involved in this sick shit so they do what they are told.

Its called INSTITUTIONAL PEODOPHILE BLACKMAIL! And it works a gem for the last 2000-3000 years AT LEAST!

But hey, you keep listening to your news, reading controlled sites like gizmodo, kotaku, coindesk, wired, newspapers, listening to the general public ( just because there is a large concensious doesn't make it true!, it makes a bunch of.people that are wrong at best, and lieing at worst, neither good!) You will continue down the path you have been put on, thinking your free! Lolif your free go to can and a without a passport! Or USA if your from Canada! You sir are not free!

Without a birth certificate( that politicians make loans off and floats on the stock exchange) you can't get any of the so called help (NHS for 1/in the uk) which means no bank, no doctor, no nothing! You would technically be a lost soul and no one system in place is their to help you! Because they can't make anything off you!

You all give to these sick fuckers and they give you peanuts laced with arsenic and you all eat them like haribo (sugar is our biggest drug problem BTW).

Keep drinking your coolaid (tap water)

/rant to the greedy drones who miss then point that labour is the only true wealth, and knowledge is the only true good!

/s  All praise IGNORANCE!  /s
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August 10, 2015, 09:24:21 PM
Okay, last time I checkd this guy was raided, and served in court to pay "xyz" fee.

Now whats the update? Its amazing that the missouri court is still doing this case cause honestly how long has it been?
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August 10, 2015, 08:18:16 PM
There seems forever issues with BFL since they first appeared until now
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Mmmh mhmhh mmmm.
August 10, 2015, 08:04:49 PM
With the obligatory noddy9000 post now behind us



it's pretty obvious that BFL management thought that they'd be the Bitcoin Kings for years to come, providing their feudal serfs a small slice of the crypto-pie... after it became mushy, worm-eaten, etc after Two WeeksTM

I have no idea why the FTC didn't name a couple other names in BFL management that Bruno has thoroughly vetted countless times in this forum.
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August 10, 2015, 02:30:38 AM


Report crooks to crooks is your advice then........ Rrrrright! Because that will work! Cognitive disadence! Since.... Xxxx BC! Lol

I'll explain it even so "a noddy" could understand.

See this is Josh,



this is Josh being himself when trying to tell the truth,



this is Josh when he is trying to lie.



Any questions?
I know what josh is better than any of you! An unempathetic, sociopathic dirt bag, just like Obama, the queen (all of them), bush family (related to Alexander Crowley), Clinton's, tony Blair, Obama (and his man lover Michael!), popes (both of them!), ester ransen (hides all the child abuse at the bbc), George Osbourne... Shit this list isn HUGE! Hell, he doesn't know his sexual orientation just like these freak shows too!

This is what all principles at bfl are! Only they wish they had the control and manipulation of the people I mentioned above! They are cut from the same block! The environment allows the people at the top to create more of themselves! Its your environment that shapes you more than any of the bullshit gene storey you all so convincingly have been programmed at school! Think where you got most of your 'base' knowledge lol. Can you really trust it? Or are you gonna stop schooling getting in the way of your education and stop labeling and do more questioning on what your been told? Are you going to stick up for yourself and fight for what you believe is right? No? Didn't think so! You just keep labeling like then programmed sheep you have become because that's easy to call Gleb crazy, or me nuts! It makes your little bubble world all OK to label people doesn't it!

Just remember who kept on you with this stuff when your all gathered in a shopping mall or sports complex begging your captures to save you like the sheep you have been programmed! Listen, this is not a personal attack, its general and to all here!

This is how I knew josh was a con in April 2012 at the btc conference in London! I can spot crack sweats a mile away and his discompersition. The lack of technical knowledge was clear for all to see to and then the repetition of the same crap! But I ordered by then but luckily only a 60gh miner that ended up 12 months late and just oitnofnprofit. Coincidence? Lol. You keep telling yourself that. I for 1 know exactly what the principles of bfl are and how they think, just like the evil that manipulates it all through centralisation.

What do people with control want? More control! Der!

There is only on good, knowledge, there is only one evil, ignorance!

You can be ignorant to what I say but it doesn't change the truth! I wish I was wrong about all this, I had to admit to myself I been wrong about everything, I know its hard, I've done it! Most people cantndo that because they don't realise success is built on 1000's of failures! Programmed sheep expect it all just to happen and work! Like then sheep we are!

Hell, you all believe in the evolution crap that been remmed down your thoughts! All the so called 'links' to evolution get proven to be false but they never show you that bit! Just that scientists found x, y &z! Confirmation bias from news papers and news spreads and all of a suddennits true! At least in peoples heads! Which is where fear resides! All made up in your own head, created by your environment that's manipulated by a few!

So easy to see, so hard to understand apparently :-(
legendary
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August 10, 2015, 12:50:51 AM


Report crooks to crooks is your advice then........ Rrrrright! Because that will work! Cognitive disadence! Since.... Xxxx BC! Lol

I'll explain it even so "a noddy" could understand.

See this is Josh,



this is Josh being himself when trying to tell the truth,



this is Josh when he is trying to lie.



Any questions?
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