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Topic: BFL has Black Friday SALE!!! Be careful - page 4. (Read 7244 times)

legendary
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Christian Antkow
November 27, 2013, 02:26:12 PM
#47
Finally when it said press 0 to talk to an operator, I thought great, instead it ended the call. I'm not sure what to think now.

 Their phone system just did you a tremendous favor.

 Caveat emptor.
legendary
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November 27, 2013, 02:22:03 PM
#46
I just tried calling BFL because on their site says:

5 GH/s Bitcoin Miner
Units in Stock. Immediate Delivery
$274.00

I was wondering if that was true, since what I'm hearing here is horror stories. I spent 2 minutes going through the menus and listening to the automated message. Finally when it said press 0 to talk to an operator, I thought great, instead it ended the call. I'm not sure what to think now.

"Immediate" is a misleading term when dealing with the likes of BFL. Their latest shipping update was "Jalapenos 5 gh/s: June 7, 2013". They still have 5 months backlogged orders for those. If you order today, it will not ship immediately. They are lying, again.
legendary
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diamond-handed zealot
November 27, 2013, 02:17:45 PM
#45
I think you know exactly what to think now
member
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November 27, 2013, 02:16:49 PM
#44
I just tried calling BFL because on their site says:

5 GH/s Bitcoin Miner
Units in Stock. Immediate Delivery
$274.00

I was wondering if that was true, since what I'm hearing here is horror stories. I spent 2 minutes going through the menus and listening to the automated message. Finally when it said press 0 to talk to an operator, I thought great, instead it ended the call. I'm not sure what to think now.
sr. member
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November 27, 2013, 01:29:49 PM
#43
I got that by e-mail.

They must still love me!  Kiss

Heh, heh.................

I was banned from the BFL forums but they still send me offers, including this one.

Will it never end?

My $.02.

Wink
I'm sure that's Dave getting you back for giving him "the Knife" as a handle

Could be but that certainly wouldn't be the smart move.  You don't poke a stick at a potentially dangerous animal of any kind, especially a human one.

There are consequences.

The 25% off sale really means that BFL is only going to fuck everyone 75% as hard............

My $.02.

Wink
legendary
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November 27, 2013, 01:19:24 PM
#42
Single 50 gh/s and 60 Upgrades: Backlog is finished and we are shipping from stock!

So they shipped 4 months worth of product in 1 day. That means they've had virtually no sales for the past 4 months!
full member
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November 27, 2013, 01:02:09 PM
#41
Delivery by christmas !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hands up ANYONE who believes that
I'd believe it considering the blog now states this:

Single 50 gh/s and 60 Upgrades: Backlog is finished and we are shipping from stock!


Guess Bick knew what he was doing when he refused to take my bet they'd be caught up by Dec 15th.  Looks like I may have been off by 2 weeksTM, but on the early side Cheesy.
My June 3 jaly was marked as complete last week but order details came up empty.  I got a tracking number yesterday that was not in the USPS system.  This is constant with earlier reports that you get a tracking number a day or three before the product actually ships.

I can believe 50's will ship before xmas but would be surprised if they get caught up on 6 months of jaly back orders before then.  Too bad because there is nothing else in that price range even remotely order-able.
legendary
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November 27, 2013, 09:30:17 AM
#40
I got that by e-mail.

They must still love me!  Kiss

im banned on their forums (for executing a paypal refund), and still got the email!
Quick take it! They still care about you!  Cheesy
hero member
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November 27, 2013, 06:17:39 AM
#39
I got that by e-mail.

They must still love me!  Kiss

Heh, heh.................

I was banned from the BFL forums but they still send me offers, including this one.

Will it never end?

My $.02.

Wink

What didn't you report it as a Phishing scam?
hero member
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November 27, 2013, 06:13:15 AM
#38
Delivery by christmas !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hands up ANYONE who believes that
I'd believe it considering the blog now states this:

Single 50 gh/s and 60 Upgrades: Backlog is finished and we are shipping from stock!


Guess Bick knew what he was doing when he refused to take my bet they'd be caught up by Dec 15th.  Looks like I may have been off by 2 weeksTM, but on the early side Cheesy.
hero member
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Merit: 500
November 27, 2013, 06:09:29 AM
#37
I got that by e-mail.

They must still love me!  Kiss

Heh, heh.................

I was banned from the BFL forums but they still send me offers, including this one.

Will it never end?

My $.02.

Wink
I'm sure that's Dave getting you back for giving him "the Knife" as a handle
sr. member
Activity: 476
Merit: 250
November 27, 2013, 05:46:56 AM
#36
I got that by e-mail.

They must still love me!  Kiss

Heh, heh.................

I was banned from the BFL forums but they still send me offers, including this one.

Will it never end?

My $.02.

Wink
legendary
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Merit: 1003
November 27, 2013, 05:37:56 AM
#35
lol....  Order this Black Friday!  Guaranteed Delivery by the Next Black Friday!

hahahah .. good one Smiley
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Across The Universe
November 27, 2013, 05:36:17 AM
#34
nitrominer.com

they shipped soon  Shocked  Huh  Roll Eyes  Tongue 
legendary
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November 27, 2013, 05:28:12 AM
#33
is better only from one company
terrahash Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
hero member
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November 27, 2013, 03:48:27 AM
#32
This sale is a joke. They are just marking orders as shipped and not giving tracking numbers to push this sale. These guys have no ethical standards.  My June order has not even shipped yet.
legendary
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November 27, 2013, 03:10:50 AM
#31
25% discount.  Hefty.  I've purchased from BFL before and did eventually get ROI on my order so I can't really complain about them (apart from the many months of anguish at delay after delay).

What concerns me now is BFL is still claiming initial orders shipping in November/December.  Seeing as there are only 4 days left of November, can BFL provide a count of how many cards they've shipped?  I suggest the number is zero as no reviews have been posted online.  December is cut short by Christmas with many businesses shutting down for a while, and January has the Chinese New Year (expect that one to pop up when BFL are late to ship in January too).

Ordering now is likely to see the card ship in mid 2014 as far as I can see.  It would be great if one could trust BFL's shipping estimates, but seeing as every single one has been broken I fail to see how that can be achieved.

You better have proof of your statements buddy....or Josh/Inaba will desend on you like a hoard of locusts & dox you into submission....or bribe you with a 10BTC bet  Cheesy

Right Phin Huh  Tongue
hero member
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November 26, 2013, 09:41:58 PM
#30
The only reason to order those singles at that price is to sell them on Ebay.

They're going for $3500+ on Ebay....absolutely insane.
hero member
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November 26, 2013, 09:27:42 PM
#29
I got that by e-mail.

They must still love me!  Kiss

im banned on their forums (for executing a paypal refund), and still got the email!

desperation

but hey, I'm sure if you ordered you would have your hardware in 2 weeks

If that were the case would they not say that?
legendary
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November 26, 2013, 09:19:09 PM
#28
Tape Out?

Has it even been completed.

From completed tape out you still have to wait 15 weeks from BFL's own estimates to a "ramping" up of the shipping / production regardless of when you ordered.

All orders are at least 3.75 months away from shipping from today will always be 3.75 months away until they say they have moved beyond tapeout. If anyone has evidence of the completed tapeout that be great to know.


December
January
February
3rd Week of March for the those who ordered first or who have the biggest orders.


Don't get fooled. Read the page and the week to week timeline. Read and do the math yourself.

https://products.butterflylabs.com/300-gh-bitcoin-mining-card.html

Code:
Shipping Schedule

This is a Pre-Order product which is not yet shipping.  If you're uncomfortable waiting until the development
is complete and the product is shipped, do NOT pre-order this product. Perhaps undesirable, but this is a
pre-order market.  Customers flatly demand to get in line for the new technology before it's finished
development.  This has created a lot of drama for the manufacturers but it's something we simply have
to deal with.  All manufacturers in this space have experienced some degree of delay with their first
generation ASIC.  Every last one of them, so we're reluctant to give a specific delivery date.  
However, this is our second generation, so we have much greater clarity on the process and we feel our
timeline to begin shipments towards the end of the year is solid.

Here's a breakdown of the timeline.

+ We're now in at the final stage of development (Tapeout) and are sending wafers into production at the
foundry in the next few weeks[/b]

+ Foundry production takes 10 weeks

+ Bumping, Slicing & BGA packaging takes approximately 2 weeks

+ Initial shipments begin and ramp up to full capacity over the following 3 weeks

Since this is our 2nd generation ASIC chip, we're free from the pitfalls sometimes associated with a first generation
design. Testing systems, Bumping masks, Substrates & under fill engineering are all carryovers from our last version
of the chip, so they're ready for high volume production once the wafers are ready. The importance of this can't be
overstated when considering schedule certainty.  Nevertheless, please do not purchase this product if you are
unwilling to wait for the product to complete its development.

10+2+3 = 15 Weeks or 3.75 Months.


Don't forget the terms:

Code:
Pre-Order Terms: This is a pre-order. 28nm ASIC bitcoin mining hardware products 
are shipped according to placement in the order queue, and delivery may take 3 months or more after order.
All sales are final.

http://www.coindesk.com/butterfly-labs-monarch-miner-announcement-angers-existing-customers/




Nah you got it all wrong.  They'll be shipping in 2 weeks.
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