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Topic: BFL silent these past days? (Read 7098 times)

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April 15, 2013, 09:08:33 PM
#65
Cute, that is the single in the back row: Two mini single connected together with a water block  Grin



The dual waterblock unit is 2 FPGA's sandwiched together,not ASIC's.The one with the black"clamp" thing on it may be an ASIC,can't see from this angle.

God,I hope they ship soon  Roll Eyes

For those that don't know, the image is a screen grab from the, Butterfly Labs Company Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSu5Yyc1bEM

I see my comment and many others got deleted. Stuff like "box shifting", "people sitting around playing minecraft", "just a load of people moving boxes and sitting on offices", "9 months already", "video didn't show anyone using a solder iron or reflow unit", "at least we know the laser etching works" etc.
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April 15, 2013, 06:51:44 PM
#64
At least Tom has the decency to refund his customers instead of stringing his customer along like BFL is doing now.  What's worse is BFL taking on even more pre-orders... except for mini-rig, which is now out of stock..  How does something that was never in stock in the first place becomes out of stock?  I guess even in the fantasy-dream-world that is BFL, they ran out of fairy-dust to conjure up magical mini-rigs.

if they didn't have these "ship dates" then tom might not have given up and we might've been able to get a good product from him.

I don't think so. I finally received my refund, but the way Tom handled this project I doubt that we would have seen a working miner anytime soon.
sr. member
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April 15, 2013, 11:10:06 AM
#63
We've I've been hearing something 'good' every week since January.

I suspect that we will continue to hear good things in all the following weeks from now.

I don't think we'll see any actual progress apart from more prototyping  Tongue

FTFY Wink

We've been hearing good things about this project since last June.
not may?

i thought it was around may when we started hearing good things from them?

It's possible. I was willing to give them the benefit of the doubt there. They actually took orders in June, so they were already lying saying good stuff then. Perhaps I'm just too nice to BFL. Smiley
legendary
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April 15, 2013, 10:36:25 AM
#62
We've I've been hearing something 'good' every week since January.

I suspect that we will continue to hear good things in all the following weeks from now.

I don't think we'll see any actual progress apart from more prototyping  Tongue

FTFY Wink

We've been hearing good things about this project since last June.
not may?

i thought it was around may when we started hearing good things from them?
legendary
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FPV Drone Pilot
April 15, 2013, 10:27:37 AM
#61
silent --> huge unresolvable problems ...

OBV.

Last official update: 3/29
JZ devoted today to flaming on the forums, not updating customers
yxt
legendary
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April 15, 2013, 08:30:23 AM
#60
silent --> huge unresolvable problems ...
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April 15, 2013, 07:18:24 AM
#59
Cute, that is the single in the back row: Two mini single connected together with a water block  Grin



The dual waterblock unit is 2 FPGA's sandwiched together,not ASIC's.The one with the black"clamp" thing on it may be an ASIC,can't see from this angle.

God,I hope they ship soon  Roll Eyes

For those that don't know, the image is a screen grab from the, Butterfly Labs Company Video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSu5Yyc1bEM
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April 15, 2013, 07:03:50 AM
#58
We will hear something this week I am predicting, and its likely to even have an effect on BTC price if the news is positive.

The same amount of BTC are mined every day regardless of whether they're mined with ASICs or not and regardless of difficulty.  BFL (or any other ASIC vendor) delivering in quantity will increase the overall network hashrate and reduce the profitability of existing hardware, but it's not going to affect the overall supply of BTC or demand for them.
legendary
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April 15, 2013, 06:56:56 AM
#57
Unfortunately I did not pay money to hear things from BFL but to receive a product.
sr. member
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April 15, 2013, 06:51:04 AM
#56
We've I've been hearing something 'good' every week since January.

I suspect that we will continue to hear good things in all the following weeks from now.

I don't think we'll see any actual progress apart from more prototyping  Tongue

FTFY Wink

We've been hearing good things about this project since last June.
sr. member
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April 15, 2013, 06:09:28 AM
#55
We will hear something this week I am predicting, and its likely to even have an effect on BTC price if the news is positive.

We've been hearing something 'good' every week since January.

I suspect that we will continue to hear good things in all the following weeks from now.

I don't think we'll see any actual progress apart from more prototyping  Tongue
legendary
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April 15, 2013, 04:13:33 AM
#54
I am so stupid! I just realized why we didn't see 22+ people in the video. The film crew was only there for the first shift, thus two more videos are expected from Camp BFL, depicting the going-ons during the second and third shift.

Today's riddle:

What does Josh say first thing in the morning went he greets the assemblers?
Hola.
What is he thinking when he says it?
Hijos de puta.
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April 15, 2013, 03:48:51 AM
#53
Silence is Golden (for Avalon owners and ASICMiner share holders).
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April 15, 2013, 03:41:26 AM
#52
We will hear something this week I am predicting, and its likely to even have an effect on BTC price if the news is positive.
legendary
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April 15, 2013, 01:24:16 AM
#51
if they didn't have these "ship dates" then tom might not have given up and we might've been able to get a good product from him.

I don't think so. I finally received my refund, but the way Tom handled this project I doubt that we would have seen a working miner anytime soon.
sr. member
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April 14, 2013, 11:56:55 PM
#50

I think I read they have at least 85000 asic --- the asic works ok but use more power than expected --- they need to find a easy design solution to the problem --- note these asic use less than 50% power  of avalon (bfl asic will be better in long term - less power Huh) --- so design may end up in a much larger case with bigger power supply

Nope.  Their entire gen 1 first run was supposed to total 75,000 chips.  They split the first batch of 12,000 into 2 and had 6 wafers delivered while the last few layers of the 2nd 6 were held back in case they ran into problems.  The bulk order of 63,000 was supposed to go into production a few weeks after the whole 12 wafers from batch 1 were delivered but there's been no confirmation that order has gone ahead. 

It looks like they're going to use what's already in production to fill early orders and that the bulk order will now be use for a revised design.


Thanks for clearing that up
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April 14, 2013, 08:35:03 PM
#49
i really wish bfl didn't lie so much.

if they didn't have these "ship dates" then tom might not have given up and we might've been able to get a good product from him.
legendary
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April 14, 2013, 07:46:19 PM
#48
These guys really are a pair of clown shoes. Roll Eyes

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April 14, 2013, 07:32:19 PM
#47
So what are they going to do with the second set of wafers then considering they ran into rather large issues? Would that be a scrap?

No-one knows.

The 5,000 chips they have on hand (suspected to be 4,000 now because wafer 2 is the one which returned the crappy power results) won't fill very many orders.  The next 6 wafers were supposed to be completed once testing was completed on the first 6 but no-one seems to be talking about when they'll be completed any more (it was supposed to be only a few weeks after the first 6 wafers were done).

Perhaps more importantly, no-one's talking about the bulk order for 63,000 chips - from which the majority of pre-orders were likely going to be filled.

This leaves a lot of uncertainty about when customers who ordered after August can expect delivery because it doesn't sound like they're going to have the chips on hand to fill those orders any time soon even if they can manage to get sub-spec units out to June/July pre-orders in the next month.

I think people who are hanging in hoping that BFL will ship "soon" are assuming that once they start shipping everything will be fine.  But BFL has actually said nothing recently which suggests that they have enough components on hand to fill anything except the very early pre-orders.  Those with orders placed after August really need to start asking questions about what's happening with the bulk chips because delivery of their orders could still be months away even if June/July orders get filled soon.

They should also know with absolute certainty by now how many of each unit they are going to produce from batch 1 (which affects the likelihood of a particular order being filled from batch 1 because of their stupid 1/3 shipping plan), but that's something else they're not disclosing.
legendary
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In Cryptocoins I Trust
April 14, 2013, 06:54:17 PM
#46
I stopped by the BFL office unannounced on Friday with my video camera to record the details.

It seems they were on break time.. I must say I am disturbed at what I saw: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78LAgl90UyM
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