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April 15, 2013, 09:17:14 AM
Fraud would be telling someone you are shipping next week WHEN YOU KNOW THAT IS IMPOSSIBLE.

It's nice how it's obvious after it happens, right?

It happened over and over again. BFL must have been fully aware that they could not deliver on time every time they made these promises.

They never gave information beforehand that they may not make the date(s) while they missed every single one of them, and counting. You cannot say that you can deliver in october when in reality you will need several months and multiple development stages to get the product out. That is an outright lie.
BFL always chose to communicate the most optimistic projection as the most probable outcome. It is outright lying about the real situation.
They acted fully irresponsible in their coimmunication to their customers and often informed them after the fact that they did not ship because they overlooked some part of the process.
BFL could have never made any realistic projections of delivery simply because they are (willingly or unwillingly) not in control of the process and all promises untill now have turned out to be false. All specs are significantly reduced, the units use more power AND they still haven't delivered.

Bunch of fucking liars, that's all there is to it.

And the recent silence tells me that they have some huge unresolvable problems that they don't want to talk about just yet.

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April 15, 2013, 07:55:37 AM
Another thing to note is that up until 22nd January 2013 they show their old FPGA miners in the ASIC ads.

Starting 22nd January 2013 they show their actual ASIC products (or renders, who knows). Or at least the cases (with nothing in it).

Which leads to the conclusion that up until end of January 2013 they had nothing at all.

"Honest abe" shipment in October 2012? What a joke ...



Nice find from Kelticfox here: https://forums.butterflylabs.com/pre-sales-questions/1709-browsing-bfl-facebook-page-made-me-chuckle.html#post23137
Thought I share this with you for giggles ...

Kelticfox: I was linked to the BFL Facebook page today and was flicking through the old posts and this made me chuckle.....

20th September 2012


27th November 2012


13th December 2012


18th January 2013


22nd January 2013


22nd January 2013


26th February 2013


26th February 2013


Made me chuckle.... got to the 26th February and BFL are like "Screw it.... "

legendary
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April 15, 2013, 01:31:47 AM
Omg, guys c'mon, 22 is the number of hours they dont work in a day, GET IT RIGHT.
It takes them this damn long to make a company video and yet and we dont even have a chart of thier products showing
"here are the benchmark charts of each units power consumption, hashrate, heat, fanspeed"










FTFY! I enlarged the chart below for those with poor eyesight.




































legendary
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Okey Dokey Lokey
April 15, 2013, 12:10:07 AM
Omg, guys c'mon, 22 is the number of hours they dont work in a day, GET IT RIGHT.
It takes them this damn long to make a company video and yet and we dont even have a chart of thier products showing
"here are the benchmark charts of each units power consumption, hashrate, heat, fanspeed"
newbie
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April 12, 2013, 06:06:11 PM
No, it refers to the number of GH/s the single SC gets, and the number of watts of power the jalapeno uses.
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April 12, 2013, 06:00:11 PM
22 refers to the number of wafers they will burn through testing.
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April 12, 2013, 05:56:26 PM
#99
LOL! I just realized something while taking a shit after viewing the video. How the heck do they not know what the right hand is doing when they are setting at the same desks, with the principles being only a stone pebble throw away?

I'm still not seeing where they hid the 22 employees they had at the old facility, now at their new location. Even with the newly hired Hispanic temps, one would be hard-pressed to count to 22. Must be something special about that number, for even Mt Gox uses it.

Yep, it's special! I just counted all my barn wood suppliers and amazingly it came to 22. One more supplier, and I'll be a victum of my own success.

You do realize that a person at the front entrance can call out to the back warehouse inquiring how many boxes are on a certain shelf without having to raise his or her voice, don't you?

22 is the number of units they will have shipped in 6 months time.
legendary
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April 12, 2013, 05:51:11 PM
#98
LOL! I just realized something while taking a shit after viewing the video. How the heck do they not know what the right hand is doing when they are setting at the same desks, with the principles being only a stone pebble throw away?

I'm still not seeing where they hid the 22 employees they had at the old facility, now at their new location. Even with the newly hired Hispanic temps, one would be hard-pressed to count to 22. Must be something special about that number, for even Mt Gox uses it.

Yep, it's special! I just counted all my barn wood suppliers and amazingly it came to 22. One more supplier, and I'll be a victum of my own success.

You do realize that a person at the front entrance can call out to the back warehouse inquiring how many boxes are on a certain shelf without having to raise his or her voice, don't you?
legendary
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April 12, 2013, 04:57:15 PM
#97
At the beginning of the clip, the female narrator states verbatim text from BFL's site:

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Butterfly Labs manufactures a line of high speed encryption processors for use in bitcoin mining, research, telecommunication and security applications.

Can somebody point out to me any frame in that video showcasing anything other than bitcoin miners?

Moreover, you telling me that not a single client of theirs who has ordered research, telecommunication or security application products has one iota problem with their delivery schedule?

I sell barn wood. I can, and have, produced primitive reproductions for the Nashville and Atlanta markets. I can easily produce a limited line of primitive furniture. I can extend that line to include industrial-based barn wood furniture, currently in vogue, but would need to revamp my current facility to do such, let alone producing something I only have vague knowledge of, yet doable. Perhaps, I should just go ahead and do it under the guise of saving the environment, saying the hell with profit.

There is not a Goddamn thing wrong with BFL making a profit with the work they supposedly do. They can rake in the cash, for all I care. But to say at the onset, which they did, that profit is secondary, with security the network being paramount, is disingenuous at best, lying at worse.

Every company is allowed missteps. But, when missteps are publicly seen week after week after week after week (etc.), at some point a breaking point is reached, resulting in legit questions seeking answers.

The video does address many concerns, and sadly raises others. Honestly, I can't see how BFL could be a scam when they clearly are putting in mega man hours, and having mega stock on-hand. The only other answer if this is not a legit entity is that it's a long con.

Thanks for the video, BFL. Please understand where all the naysayers are coming from as hopefully you produce product you claim to be producing.

One more thing, for a 62 year old woman, Jody looks pretty good. Too bad she's probably... (a deal breaker on her part, not mine). (This sentence was meant as a complement, albeit the snide remark which may, or may not, have been appropriate, but it is as it is.)

Now, back to the video to see if there's anything I may have missed prior to somebody else bringing it to attention.

PoSt!
legendary
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April 12, 2013, 04:24:27 PM
#96
Yo folks, this is cool and all, but can we get back to bashing BFL please?

Why would we want to do that?!?

Look at this awesome video! These guys are obviously highly trained professionals that ship thousands of mining units a month.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSu5Yyc1bEM

Notice that the eBay props are located at the entrance. Shouldn't production be in the rear? The last time I saw a company showcasing their production in the open was Krispy Kreme between Excalibur and Luxor in Vegas.
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April 12, 2013, 03:49:09 PM
#95
Luke-Jr told me on IRC last night that since BFL offered to ship him the unit, but kindly agreed to keep it in their warehouse until he wants it, that the unit was technically "shipped". An interesting perspective.  Roll Eyes

Edit: I brought this up in more detail in Luke-Jr's thread, he then locked it.  Roll Eyes
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April 12, 2013, 03:43:59 PM
#94
Yo folks, this is cool and all, but can we get back to bashing BFL please?

Why would we want to do that?!?

Look at this awesome video! These guys are obviously highly trained professionals that ship thousands of mining units a month.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSu5Yyc1bEM
legendary
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April 12, 2013, 03:21:21 PM
#93
Yo folks, this is cool and all, but can we get back to bashing BFL please?
legendary
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April 12, 2013, 02:51:57 PM
#92
You guys just dated yourselves.  Tongue

Had to, I couldn't find anyone else to put out on a first.
You need to remember that most of these guys never had to actually get up off the couch and turn the knob on the TV and probably do not believe that anyone would buy a TV when there are only 11 channels.

Late 70's it was still 2-5-7-9-11-22-32 in Chicago. I'm going to do the following from memory in the same order: CBS-NBC-ABC-WGN-PBS-WBEZ-WFLD. The western reruns we on the weekend mornings.
DrG
legendary
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April 12, 2013, 02:38:48 PM
#91
Yeah I'm still trying to get my dad to toss the Sony 13" (I think it may be B&W).  The feature on that TV was it had push buttons so you could pre-program the tuning of the station.  That thing is older than me  Tongue
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April 12, 2013, 01:04:07 PM
#90
19" B&W.  Watched the 5PM godzilla movies on channel 7 out of detroit. 


No one truly appreciates the internet until they've had a childhood like this.
legendary
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Be A Digital Miner
April 12, 2013, 12:43:49 PM
#89
19" B&W.  Watched the 5PM godzilla movies on channel 7 out of detroit. 
sr. member
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April 12, 2013, 12:31:59 PM
#88
You guys just dated yourselves.  Tongue

Had to, I couldn't find anyone else to put out on a first.
You need to remember that most of these guys never had to actually get up off the couch and turn the knob on the TV and probably do not believe that anyone would buy a TV when there are only 11 channels.

You got ELEVEN channels back in the day?!? Huh

I had like four or five *IF* I wrapped enough aluminum foil around the rabbit ears and *IF* I stood in a certain spot in the room without moving.
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April 12, 2013, 11:19:46 AM
#87
You guys just dated yourselves.  Tongue

Had to, I couldn't find anyone else to put out on a first.
You need to remember that most of these guys never had to actually get up off the couch and turn the knob on the TV and probably do not believe that anyone would buy a TV when there are only 11 channels.
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April 11, 2013, 11:11:11 PM
#86
You guys just dated yourselves.  Tongue

Had to, I couldn't find anyone else to put out on a first.
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