Topic: BFL Timeline - illustrated - page 3. (Read 8897 times)

End of April seems to be their best case scenario date for shipping the first units to people other than developers.  I've seen nothing which indicates that the second batch of wafers have even been completed yet, let alone bumped and packaged.  I've definitely seen nothing which indicates that the fab is currently working on the bulk order for 63,000 chips - which I suspect are going to be needed to fill the majority of gen 1 pre-orders.

BFL answer: End of April.

My opinion: Not before the next waver run creates a fixed and working ASIC. Minimum 12 weeks, propably longer.

I was under the impression that for the first batch the assembly of the boards was being done by an assembly house and that the in-house assembly was just going to be a matter of BFL screwing components into the cases.

Perhaps whatever is actually wrong with the units means this original plan needs to be revised.

Has there been any word whatsoever on when the next 6 wafers will be ready or when the bulk order will be finished.  These were each supposed to be completed only weeks after the Batch 1 chips were bumped and packaged.  The Batch 1 chips obviously aren't going to fill very many orders given the power problems and the need to ship multiple units to meet advertised hash rates, so when in the hell can those who pre-ordered between August and January expect delivery?

Temps with soldering irons affixing chips. Larry David, are you reading this?

Based on the convo, it sounds like their trying to solder every chip by hand...  Ouch.

If this guy is real they do not even have a working ASIC that could be used for a product. It seems the ASIC supplier had to fix the design and now they have to create new masks and start the next waver run. Great BFL - another 8-12 weeks until we will see the next prototype!

With this piece of information it's clear why BFL is silent at the moment.

A redditor claims to have visited BFL unannounced within the last 24 hours and sounds pretty underwhelmed by what he saw.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1c3hyc/toured_butterflylabs_a_few_hours_ago/

This is something redditors near Kansas City have been talking about doing for a couple of days.

BFL obviously lied from back in September at least.

"final stages of development" does not EQUAL out to 8 months later still no products shipped.

BFL is a full of shit business that operates on lies and shady dealings.

I can't tell if you're just trolling, but I'm going to assume you're not and that you don't already know this.

Pretty much this exact same discussion took place around September 2012.  It culminated in BFL flying first Kano, and then Luke-Jr out to check them out.  I'll let you decide how that turned out.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bfl-requests-input-112543

I never did get an answer on why Luke-Jr went instead of Yochdog as was originally planned.

Plain and simple "SUCK IT"

I was trolling you 3 months ago about BFL

Now look at this continued bullshit ....but no you are still there ever obedient lap dog/employee who cares

They are complete and utter liars --How about the Bitcoin Bet with another convicted liar Luke Jr that they shipped a unit on April 1

I know reality is hard to face when u have been living in denial for sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo long but come on at least acknowledge they have soooooooooooommmmmmmmmmeeeeeething to answer 

how did I miss the OP?

classic

Seriously, no need to insult the monkeys: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5CrUcYVsZ4

At this point, I've completely given up on BFL and their shill & shady business practices.  I'm not going to waste my time nor mental strength chasing them around in circles.  I wouldn't be surprised if they started shipping at Q1 of 2014 at the rate they're going.  Regardless, this further proves BFL is just a piss-poor company who are run by monkeys.

All I saw was an office basically. They had a room that had a bunch of spare parts and they (one guy) were busy trying to modify the old mini case to fit the new hardware (I don't think they did this). They did have 1 mini-rig which appeared to be mining, but all the employees also had their own singles plugged in to laptops (with those whirligigs on top). It was a shitty building in a not so great part of town that they kind of borrowed from someone's relative (used to be a photography business). All other employees were busy with order tracking and responding to customers... maybe like 6 people in 1 room. I think I met Sonny and he was nice enough to show me the board (no chips obv).

The weird part was the reason I was to begin with was for an interview for a rep position (basically to improve customer relations). Jody was really nice and likable, but didn't really ask me many questions like a normal interviewer would. Instead it seemed as if she was "selling" me on BFL and wanted to know if I'd read things in the forums so she could explain things to me. I didn't take the job as I was only interested in assisting with building the hardware after hours if they needed that. Talking to the other miner I know here in KC (met on localbitcoins) he was in their old office for the same reason (also didn't take the job).

To me it seems they aren't out to scam anyone but just suck at delivering products on time.

This could be fun. Can someone bring the popcorn?

Also, no new pictures from Luke-JR with his product from Butter Full of Lies since the 1 april. Strange isn't?

They're shipping tomorrow! And they label the box very nice!

http://ow.ly/i/1tV2q

You will get the "o'fans" tags in a separate shipment. Somewhere around august, they are printing now.

It's not incompetence. It's simply not possible that they believe their own stated timetables at this point.

Order now and receive a product in July? Come on, these people aren't stupid. The only way that will happen is if hundreds of orders are cancelled and the company begins shipping almost immediately. The ironic thing is the cancellations could conceivably cause the company to become insolvent.

And yet other people who've ordered in the last couple of days have been told their units will be delivered in July.  And BFL_Steven says if they're shipping anything at all within the next week, it will only be developer units.

No doubt BFL will either say your friend misunderstood about the delivery date (the gen 2 units don't even exist yet, so they can't possibly be shipped) or say whoever he spoke to in customer service is new.  The "Single" is a product which can no longer be ordered.

At this point, people really need to start to insist on communicating with executive staff like Jody.  If the GM gives inaccurate information, it's harder for them to blame shift when official inquiries into their operations are made (which now seems inevitable).

Let's also not forget that their incompetence is apparently systemic and extends to their administration as well as the technical side of their operations.

Hehe, a friend of mine, partner lawyer from nyc, after I talked to him about the whole thingy with the BFL, ordered couple of singles yesterday. He also had a phone call with them and they told him that the units will be at his place in couple of days. He said that if he don't get it as they told him, they're done.

AFAIK they never said they have a working prototype (until recently).

I have asked them a gazillion times during the last 7 month and they (Inaba/Josh) either ignored this questions or weasled its way out.