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Topic: BFL upgrade now offered on 5ghz orders.(screenshot) YES, IT'S BACK!! - page 6. (Read 10767 times)

legendary
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I feel that being pro-BFL or anti-BFL is not the right way to classify people. I don't think there are too many delighted current or ex-BFL customers. People who might fall in either camp are *both* disappointed in BFL's lack of performance and broken promises. Some people choose to hang on their spot in the queue and hope BFL turn the corner. Others get fed up and cancel. Both are pissed off.

I was greedy and placed an order without doing much due diligence. After a few days I corrected my initial mistake and after a few weeks I cancelled. If I'd done my due diligence first I never would have ordered. I am now invested elsewhere, and even though it's in my economic interest for BFL to continue to stumble I do feel for the people who have chosen to wait, and I do hope they get their hardware. But at the same time it would turn my stomach for BFL to succeed when they have mislead and deceived so much.
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After reading all the bashing here in the forums, some from competitor trolls, and some from customers, this seems more like an angry customer at walmart demanding a full refund on their toaster after ten years of use. Where did that community spirit go?

This has to be the lamest comparison, ever. BFL has received an incredible amount of goodwill (and money!) from the Bitcoin community. All the community got from them are INSULTS and BIG FAT LIES.
legendary
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After reading all the bashing here in the forums, some from competitor trolls, and some from customers, this seems more like an angry customer at walmart demanding a full refund on their toaster after ten years of use. Where did that community spirit go?

BFL is a private company.  While there was a general feeling of excitement about ASICs in mid 2012 and the promise of delivery in October or November 2012, that feeling has well and truly worn off.  Even your best friend can become really annoying if they keep making and breaking promise after promise.  I don't know the ins and outs of the problems BFL encountered, but when you say you're weeks away from shipping in October 2012 and begin to trickle out a few units 6 months later there's something seriously wrong.

I don't think the 'angry Walmart customer seeking a refund on a ten year old toaster' analogy works on any level.  The vast majority of BFL customers have yet to receive anything from the company.  I know I could have asked for a refund from BFL a long time ago.  We all do.  We also know that if enough people ask for one it will collapse the company simply because BFL must have used a large chunk of the preorder money for product development, making boxes, wafers, PCBs, employee time, etc.
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Good to hear another voice rather than the usual rants. Hopefully BFL will soon start serious shipping and finally silence the trolls.

Definitely. Curse those trolls and their perfectly reasonable complaints about this scam!
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-"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro."
Posting something serious in the current tragicomic situation (from customer point of view) is probably doomed to fail, but here goes anyway.

When the BFL ASIC (ad)venture started I got the feeling it was a community project. Sure, BFL was already an established company with their FPGA related products, but the demand and inspiration was driven by the Bitcoin community. Back in mid 2012 it was all about cheering on BFL for taking on this huge challenge, with cheers, patting on the back and applause. Times were great and the anticipation grew among miners.

The rest you all know, with one delay after another, and broken promises. After dealing with electronics for the past decade and knowing a lot about the business this was something I expected, granted, not that it would take this long, still, no real surprise. Designing and prototyping (FPGA) a product is one thing, actually producing something ASIC based is a whole different ballgame.

Yet, even after all this time, I still feel like this is a community project, or at least it should be. How does a community act when their pet project is stumbling on the verge to fail? You help out in any way possible, keep encouraging those who work hard to make this a reality. Now they need cheers more than ever, this is that last stretch when everything has to fall into place.

I know from experience accepting pre-orders can be hairy, but as long as the company treat their customer payments with respect by refunding promptly when someone wants to cancel their order, then what more can you ask for?

After reading all the bashing here in the forums, some from competitor trolls, and some from customers, this seems more like an angry customer at walmart demanding a full refund on their toaster after ten years of use. Where did that community spirit go?

I have to admit it's a lot of fun to read all these elaborate posts here, serious posts mixed with jokes and one-liners. What makes it even more fun is that there is some truth to it, humor at best. I only wish that it was kept on that level, and not turn into something destructive making it even harder for BFL reach "our" goal. Yes, being a customer in a community driven project it is in "our" interest they are successful, it's not their responsibility alone.

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-"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro."
Why not the most likely truth that they dont exist !! just like the mystery of the prototype...I really think we need scooby doo to solve this one ....or at least track down the fool who installed the wrong mosfets so Josh can School that Fool .. !!!

ROFL. Laff-A-Lympics...
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There's some stirrings over in BFL land that all is not well with the new Jala boards. Wrong mosfets installed or something by the board supplier, but they've only just detected the problem. More delays. And the 7GHash upgrade apparently has been withdrawn, it was a "mistake". AFAIK they still intend to do big singles this week.

Shouldn't take more than a "couple of weeks" to iron out.

Oh .. the never ending excuses to why things have not shipped....

Same like the prototypes we never saw from June/July/August/Sep/Oct/Nov/Dec/Jan/Feb/Mar

And finally a real one shows up in april

What was it the clock buffers where not bumping last time..now we have the case of the missing Mofsets or have Avalon have a spy implanted in there assembly line

Why not the most likely truth that they dont exist !! just like the mystery of the prototype...I really think we need scooby doo to solve this one ....or at least track down the fool who installed the wrong mosfets so Josh can School that Fool .. !!!
legendary
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There's some stirrings over in BFL land that all is not well with the new Jala boards. Wrong mosfets installed or something by the board supplier, but they've only just detected the problem. More delays. And the 7GHash upgrade apparently has been withdrawn, it was a "mistake". AFAIK they still intend to do big singles this week.

Wrong MOSFETs installed (whose fault?), so the boards are being returned.  Great.  200 Jalapenos probably not shipping this week.  Maybe next week.  BFL always seem to give extremely optimistic time lines, such as the most recent one where PCBs were to be received Friday and sent out the same day and next.  They were assuming the boards would be be bug free, there would be no problems installing chips and they could package and send 200 over a weekend.  BFL always seems to give timelines that require perfection, from the supplier, to the shipping company, to BFL itself.  The real world doesn't work that way.  It's time BFL found out.
legendary
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There's some stirrings over in BFL land that all is not well with the new Jala boards. Wrong mosfets installed or something by the board supplier, but they've only just detected the problem. More delays. And the 7GHash upgrade apparently has been withdrawn, it was a "mistake". AFAIK they still intend to do big singles this week.

Shouldn't take more than a "couple of weeks" to iron out.
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There's some stirrings over in BFL land that all is not well with the new Jala boards. Wrong mosfets installed or something by the board supplier, but they've only just detected the problem. More delays. And the 7GHash upgrade apparently has been withdrawn, it was a "mistake". AFAIK they still intend to do big singles this week.
legendary
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Remember their new 500gh/s miner will be available for (pre)sale THIS week!

But with a firmware revision and $200 extra you could be looking at 700gh/s!

I am going to giggle a bit when the first one of these melts.
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Remember their new 500gh/s miner will be available for (pre)sale THIS week!

But with a firmware revision and $200 extra you could be looking at 700gh/s!
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Hi.
Big Free Loan please.
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