Also, this is a response to requests from customers on their forum to be able to upgrade for an additional $100. It didn't come from BFL to begin with.
However, whether those customers on the forum were BFL employees or not I don't know.
Topic: BFL upgrade now offered on 5ghz orders.(screenshot) YES, IT'S BACK!! - page 9. (Read 10782 times)
May 25, 2013, 07:47:39 AM
May 25, 2013, 07:43:28 AM
Sounds like their Jalepenos are either under, or over-performing with a revised design and it's costing them. They can't force you to pay more, but to cover their costs they have to request you do.
Gut feeling, seems odd they would have two board revisions this late in the day otherwise.
Would love to know what people get if they don't upgrade, whether it will be under spec or over spec.
Guess we will find out in due course.
Gut feeling, seems odd they would have two board revisions this late in the day otherwise.
Would love to know what people get if they don't upgrade, whether it will be under spec or over spec.
Guess we will find out in due course.
The original design had one chip and no heatsink, the current design is much larger, two chips and a big heatsink and fan. So all of a sudden they can only make half as many units from a wafer, but they can drive them harder then just having one chip if they want to. Early April when they discovered that they would need more parts to make a unit, the price went up too.
So do the newer (post-April price increase) orders also receive the same request to voluntarily pay more?
What does this mean to the larger units that presumably require twice the chips and wafers as well? Everything being directly proportional...
I'm not a BFL customer, but am following the story unfold.
May 25, 2013, 07:27:31 AM
Sounds like their Jalepenos are either under, or over-performing with a revised design and it's costing them. They can't force you to pay more, but to cover their costs they have to request you do.
Gut feeling, seems odd they would have two board revisions this late in the day otherwise.
Would love to know what people get if they don't upgrade, whether it will be under spec or over spec.
Guess we will find out in due course.
Gut feeling, seems odd they would have two board revisions this late in the day otherwise.
Would love to know what people get if they don't upgrade, whether it will be under spec or over spec.
Guess we will find out in due course.
The original design had one chip and no heatsink, the current design is much larger, two chips and a big heatsink and fan. So all of a sudden they can only make half as many units from a wafer, but they can drive them harder then just having one chip if they want to. Early April when they discovered that they would need more parts to make a unit, the price went up too.
May 25, 2013, 07:19:58 AM
Sounds like their Jalepenos are either under, or over-performing with a revised design and it's costing them. They can't force you to pay more, but to cover their costs they have to request you do.
Gut feeling, seems odd they would have two board revisions this late in the day otherwise.
Would love to know what people get of they don't upgrade, whether it will be under spec or over spec.
Guess we will find out in due course.
Gut feeling, seems odd they would have two board revisions this late in the day otherwise.
Would love to know what people get of they don't upgrade, whether it will be under spec or over spec.
Guess we will find out in due course.
yes no one forcing you to pay but i least the order that paid in june or the order that fund there fucking stupid project get it free .
May 25, 2013, 07:16:09 AM
Sounds like their Jalepenos are either under, or over-performing with a revised design and it's costing them. They can't force you to pay more, but to cover their costs they have to request you do.
Gut feeling, seems odd they would have two board revisions this late in the day otherwise.
Would love to know what people get if they don't upgrade, whether it will be under spec or over spec.
Guess we will find out in due course.
Gut feeling, seems odd they would have two board revisions this late in the day otherwise.
Would love to know what people get if they don't upgrade, whether it will be under spec or over spec.
Guess we will find out in due course.
May 25, 2013, 07:09:12 AM
Get refund guys and walk a way .
May 25, 2013, 06:53:54 AM
i have the option too on my order for A Jalapeno.
Funny thing is, i got a refund for that order 3 days ago, and the order is still shown as "processing" and upgradeable in their database.
Perhaps i might actually get my unit shipped after its refunded?
Either that, or they are just bad/lazy with their orders
Funny thing is, i got a refund for that order 3 days ago, and the order is still shown as "processing" and upgradeable in their database.
Perhaps i might actually get my unit shipped after its refunded?
Either that, or they are just bad/lazy with their orders
May 25, 2013, 06:47:28 AM
Let me see if I have this correct: BFL is making it mandatory to pay extra to receive a product you've already once fully paid for
It looks like it's optional, not mandatory. But yeah the cheek, they should throw that in for free considering how long BFL has made you/is making you guys wait.
They gave people the extra 20Gh/s on the Single SC line for the first 45~90 days of waiting. The next 90+ days after that...nada.
May 25, 2013, 06:41:30 AM
Add $100 to order to get new firmware and faster clocks. 
Log into your existing order status and see.
You know what is funny?Log into your existing order status and see.
I speculated/accused BFL of selling future firmware "speed upgrades" at cost to the customer way back when they turned their Single SC from 40 to 60Gh/s. I was called a liar by the rep back then for even suggesting it. Well, here it is.
The BFL customer is about to know what it feels like to get tapped twice for something they already purchased....
I guess that is one less "lie" the BFL rep can accuse me of.
May 25, 2013, 06:25:11 AM
Their con is running out of money
It certainly does have an air of desperation. I'm guessing they are losing money on every device they ship out due to cost overruns.
May 25, 2013, 03:16:12 AM
Let me see if I have this correct: BFL is making it mandatory to pay extra to receive a product you've already once fully paid for
It looks like it's optional, not mandatory. But yeah the cheek, they should throw that in for free considering how long BFL has made you/is making you guys wait.
May 25, 2013, 03:06:13 AM
You'd think with 6-8 month delays, you'd upgrade people for free.
To turn around and ask for MORE money, from people who paid in June 2012? Wow.
These guys have balls of steel. I'd be worried some crazy Bitcoin nutjob would show to the office and start shooting. You tell people you're about to ship for 4 months, then try to upsell them on an upgraded firmware?
Someone should sit down with them and let the know if they keep pushing their luck this might end badly (lawsuits, charges, insane bitcoin nerd with a gun). I still find it hard to believe they've had people's money for 8-10 months and somehow have the nerve to ask for more. Treat people's trust and money like a big joke, it usually ends up biting you in the ass. Fucking crazy.
To turn around and ask for MORE money, from people who paid in June 2012? Wow.
These guys have balls of steel. I'd be worried some crazy Bitcoin nutjob would show to the office and start shooting. You tell people you're about to ship for 4 months, then try to upsell them on an upgraded firmware?
Someone should sit down with them and let the know if they keep pushing their luck this might end badly (lawsuits, charges, insane bitcoin nerd with a gun). I still find it hard to believe they've had people's money for 8-10 months and somehow have the nerve to ask for more. Treat people's trust and money like a big joke, it usually ends up biting you in the ass. Fucking crazy.
May 25, 2013, 02:41:08 AM
I just upgraded one of mine (early Jul order).
And with a similar feel to the shipping upgrade its been paid but still shows as amount due.
LOL: from $187 to now $449 in total
And with a similar feel to the shipping upgrade its been paid but still shows as amount due.
LOL: from $187 to now $449 in total
No point ordering the Express shipping, it's a rippoff just get the normal shipping.
May 25, 2013, 02:34:32 AM
I just upgraded one of mine (early Jul order).
And with a similar feel to the shipping upgrade its been paid but still shows as amount due.
LOL: from $187 to now $449 in total
And with a similar feel to the shipping upgrade its been paid but still shows as amount due.
LOL: from $187 to now $449 in total
May 25, 2013, 02:03:23 AM
Add $100 to order to get new firmware and faster clocks.
Log into your existing order status and see.
Log into your existing order status and see.
Is this if you ordered the original 4.5Gh/s unit last year?
yes, I ordered early last year.
May 25, 2013, 02:02:55 AM
Their con is running out of money
May 25, 2013, 01:55:48 AM
Bunch o' snakes....
Like a bank and ATM charges. Man snakes!
Like a bank and ATM charges. Man snakes!
May 25, 2013, 01:52:07 AM
Add $100 to order to get new firmware and faster clocks.
Log into your existing order status and see.
Log into your existing order status and see.
Let me see if I have this correct: BFL is making it mandatory to pay extra to receive a product you've already once fully paid for so that it about equals the current list price of said item, coupled with this is the only unit type they've been shipping out.
How close am I?
May 25, 2013, 01:51:26 AM
Add $100 to order to get new firmware and faster clocks.
Log into your existing order status and see.
Log into your existing order status and see.
Is this if you ordered the original 4.5Gh/s unit last year?
May 25, 2013, 12:48:41 AM
Add $100 to order to get new firmware and faster clocks.
Log into your existing order status and see.
Log into your existing order status and see.
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