Topic: BiblePay - New Coin Launch - Official Thread - page 32. (Read 119854 times)

I don't quite understand, without the big miner hash, do you think other valuable hobbyists can solve blocks so frequent in the pool? Of course not!

So, what is the problem with having big miners in the pool? I really don't understand...
BTW, it is good to know there is another new pool and it welcomes big miners.

>>nd no one can run multiple degraded copies to squeeze more HPS out of the box
 
I have no idea what "degraded copy" is.
I just ran few instances as it was openly discussed here to get better hashpower from the rented HW.  
And I'm not even in top 10 .   top 3 -5 are  likely from far east . they are still there and getting even more shares now thanks to this move. LOL

it doesn't look nice

No, thats not the case with hashpower.  The more hashpower you generate, the more of the block share you take from my other valuable hobbyists in the pool.

Look, Im not against big hash power, Im just against an unfair advantage due to scripting multiple instances of biblepay on one box to squeeze extra HPS per node.

This coin was built to run One instance of biblepay and act as a full service node, not as a tool to exploit more hash power by running 10 hobbled down slow versions of the software to steal shares from the other miners in the pool.

I understand we started to experiment with the datadir script- but what we did not do, is no one created a thread for it and said Oh my look at this Rob, look this is 400% to someones advantage, no they started silently using it secretly in the pool until I noticed the top 10 users on the leaderboard had an unfairly high allocation of shares.

What Im saying is, this algorithm will continue to get tweaked until one processor with 25kh/s yields 25kh/s in the pool, and no one can run multiple degraded copies to squeeze more HPS out of the box at the expense of other miners.

Anyway, the only restriction on the pool is you cant solve more than 200 shares per IP per 15 minute time frame- that should not be a big deal, if it is you can still solo mine if you have that kind of hash to throw around.

I want to focus on adding value to this coin to end up with more Value for the orphans, not making it more mineable for profit.

makes sense

And I noticed that network hashrate drops a lot, it is now 166xxx, I remember it was 800xxx (if I'm not mistaken) over last week.

So, some big solo miners gone?

Wow, I was busy last few days and just finished reading all these messages, seems like a lot changes now.
I will try to move over my miner to your pool.

@inblue Yes, you're right that more hash will get more blocks. So, @bible_pay I don't understand why you don't want the hash power in your pool? If top 10 of the miners in your pool go solo, then I believe number of blocks solve by your pool will reduce a lot. And I believe profits will be the same in long run (either solo or pool), unless bad luck factor in.

I though the more hashpower we generate the more kids we can donate to . Isn't it so ?  
that 's what 10+6+6 cut exists for.

Were restrictions applied to some people individually for their "greed" or it's an universal rule ?

It looks OK, daemon blockhash is good.

They wouldnt.  This coin is for the general public, not for greedy people like you, who are trying exploit widows and orphans.

Im for the widows!  The one against the pharisees!  Im for the blue collar worker in the pool, not the rich spoiled brat that has a new toy to point at the pool.

Im for the longsuffering, and the weak.

If you were WITH ME, you would be helping to create a FAIR escosystem -

Thats what I did with the pool.

another question : did pool admin applied restrictions individually or to all Linux miners.  
I have Windows boxed where HPS2 and shares dropped dramatically too .

why would someone care investing in BBP time and money  if it can be manipulated that badly by the pool admins?

>>That was on the pool side, to ensure the pool is not overrun by linux hackers.

sense really bad attitude here.   
Running multiple daemons is possible on Windows the same way as on Linux.
it's a bad idea to treat people like this BP.

how exactly BBP was hacked on Linux ?

thanks.  I switched 2 boxes to your pool .   Let's see how long it takes to get at least 1 block .

Do you guys think pool.biblepay.org is mining on a fork? It's finding an awful lot of block all of the sudden...

Thank you   I don't need any donations yet though, I will post my address if the expense becomes too much though.  Hopefully the 2% fee can bring in enough but we will see.  I'm just happy to get the learning experience

No,  no restrictions at all.

Nice! I've directed one of my miners to your pool to see how it goes. Happy to see a second pool I agree with the dev that the pool owner is entitled to run the pool als he/she sees fit, and that includes adding/changing rules. But if there's only one pool, as you said, that owner becomes a lightning rod.

@macko20: I'm really curious about your views about multithread optimisations. You seem to have invested quite some time in this coin. And you're right: we should try to help each other the best we can to make this project work.

That takes me to inblue: I'm saddened to see you leave. You were such a valuable contributor to the project. I think that the things you did were open and honest. Of course, the idea the dev has for this coin is that running a full node entitles one to a relative big 'piece of the pie', and processing power comes second in importance. But that doesn't mean that users can't try to make multi-processor rigs (and rigs with a lot of threads) as efficient as possible, since they aren't cheap.

To speed up the compile time, add -j4 or -j8 after make. This way it compiles using 4 or 8 threads instead of just 1.

./configure LDFLAGS="-L${BDB_PREFIX}/lib/" CPPFLAGS="-I${BDB_PREFIX}/include/"

sudo make -j8

Reference: http://www.linux-databook.info/?page_id=2319

You gave the source code, you created the pool. I analyzed the script for the first part. I do not know whether to create a pool. Miners are the most important. Unless 50USD will help others ...

Nice!
And 100 bbp is about 50% of what I mine per day on my slow laptop running linux. A New wallet always take hours to compile but is fun ;-)

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@nsummy,   does your pool  have the same restrictions as BP introduced for a powerfull CPUs ?