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Topic: Biostar BTC-24GH Bitcoin Miner Review - page 3. (Read 8680 times)

legendary
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ASIC Wannabe
July 30, 2014, 05:17:12 PM
#28
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What you want as miners from a miner. For example Size, power hookup, Easy to use, lots of fuctionality? You tell us.
POWER
- PCIE connections, and possibly screw terminals. No 24-pin cable though since its extremely bulky/rigid, takes up space, and can be replaced with a paperclip for on/off. (perhaps include a seperate 24-pin peice that can plug to a mobo cable for on/off function (like this: http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NzExWDk0OA==/z/o6YAAOxymnFSF8M1/$(KGrHqNHJEwFIH03lp5JBSF8M06jm!~~60_35.JPG))

SIZE
- stackable with little or no extra effort and hardware (slots together or include zipties)
- preferably two types: 1) small-scale which is less than 1 cubic foot and ~3kg  &       2) large-scale that is 2U-4U rackmount
- packaged in a way it wont bend or snap if thrown down a staircase by UPS/DHL
- able to be placed and run on a metal surface (ie: components electrically protected on the bottomside by a chassis or mounting feet)

EASE of USE
- MUST MUST MUST have its own ethernet connection. no new hardware should require a host computer - it should be self-sufficient with internet connection
- plug and play is ideal - see ethernet connection
- a Raspberri Pi is not a built-in solution, it is a host computer dangling off the side and should be avoided. build in a proper controller and network chip.
- include 3 not-too-bright LEDs for power status, network status, and hashing status. should be visible from 3-4ft away if looking at the device, without keeping the room lit up even at night time

FUNCTIONALITY
- access to settings, ability to reduce frequency, change network settings, and both DHCP and static IP options
- ability to adjust voltage (how difficult would it be to control the voltage of all the regulators with a single pot resistor?) This ensures your hardware can be undervolted slightly late in its lifecycle to make running it profitable for longer
- display stats (perhaps a basic and advanced view modes) for everything from individual chip status to reject/error rates and %

HASHING
- make the chips capable of individual adjustments and optimizations. For a good example, look at spondoolies-tech where each one is independantly driven to achieve ideal performance for each chip. For the BEST example look at bitfury, where the system had a file that saved and allowed users to modify the ideal settings for each chip. (like the SP-Tech method, but saves the best configuration to use after a reboot or miner restart, then adjusts automatically from there if needed)

please build units that are designed at the 2TH/1.5kW level with seperation of the 12V between sections of the system so that it could be easily powered by a pair of 850W+ power supplies. Preferably seperated into eight 250GH/180W sections with an individual PCIe connector for each with no 12V crossovers. Ideally a unit like this would be 4U rackmount
legendary
Activity: 2212
Merit: 1001
July 30, 2014, 05:07:18 PM
#27
I saw these miners awhile ago,say 2-4 months I think.

Very cool,but even then the power consumption was too much  Sad

Maybe look into the Scrypt miner market too,remember power consumption is the key selling point,keep it low & easy to use & you could have something!!  Grin

Browse this forum,there is ALOT of info here on who offers what at specific power & hashrates.

Here's another section of interest:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=67.0

Oh...DO NOT DO PREORDERS!!!!! Sell from stock only please  Wink

Good luck Biostar!!  Wink
newbie
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July 30, 2014, 05:03:39 PM
#26
If you'll sell them in North America through newegg & tigerdirect, or any other hardware house that accepts BTC, they'll be a hit nonetheless Smiley Happy days!

We have done a very limited and final Production run on the BTC-24GH and havent been contacted by any Major retailers.
hero member
Activity: 572
Merit: 500
July 30, 2014, 05:01:13 PM
#25
If you'll sell them in North America through newegg & tigerdirect, or any other hardware house that accepts BTC, they'll be a hit nonetheless Smiley Happy days!
legendary
Activity: 1593
Merit: 1004
July 30, 2014, 04:55:00 PM
#24
Great Review.  Super detailed.
But the miner is a lost cause with today's difficulty and advances in ASIC chips.  You can overclock two Nano Fury 6 USB miners and get 24 Gh/s for a fraction of the watts.  I can't imagine a scenario where this miner would useful to anyone now.  A year ago you would have been rich selling these.  Today you could not pay me to run them.
newbie
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Merit: 0
July 30, 2014, 04:51:30 PM
#23
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What you want as miners from a miner. For example Size, power hookup, Easy to use, lots of fuctionality? You tell us.

Size = smaller if you aren't competing with the mid to large sized miners.  Something like the Yiazo if you're doing it for the entry level miner:

http://yiazo.com/2014/06/01/ybf-m-board-final/

Power hookup = Maybe consider a backplane design for a future revision, instead of spaghetti wires all over the place

Ease of use = If you could make a CGMiner build and use a web based GUI for config like the Antminer or Dragon web GUI it would be better than your proprietary software

Functionality = No need for other functions other than mine.  Use more efficient chips.  There's absolutely no reason a 24 GH/s miner is using up 130 watts.


My 2 satoshis.

Chuck

Thanks for your input, I have taken note of them.





Our Chip was a 110nm self designed and self Produced chip.

Do you plan to self design a lower nm chip with better performance?


Yes... Thats all i can say at this moment and time but we will be posting info soon.
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1007
July 30, 2014, 04:43:33 PM
#22

Our Chip was a 110nm self designed and self Produced chip.

Do you plan to self design a lower nm chip with better performance?
hero member
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better everyday ♥
July 30, 2014, 04:39:51 PM
#21
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What you want as miners from a miner. For example Size, power hookup, Easy to use, lots of fuctionality? You tell us.

Size = smaller if you aren't competing with the mid to large sized miners.  Something like the Yiazo if you're doing it for the entry level miner:

http://yiazo.com/2014/06/01/ybf-m-board-final/

Power hookup = Maybe consider a backplane design for a future revision, instead of spaghetti wires all over the place

Ease of use = If you could make a CGMiner build and use a web based GUI for config like the Antminer or Dragon web GUI it would be better than your proprietary software

Functionality = No need for other functions other than mine.  Use more efficient chips.  There's absolutely no reason a 24 GH/s miner is using up 130 watts.


My 2 satoshis.

Chuck
newbie
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Merit: 0
July 30, 2014, 04:37:47 PM
#20
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What you want as miners from a miner. For example Size, power hookup, Easy to use, lots of fuctionality? You tell us.

Curious as to who manufactured the ASICs on your 24GH board, or rather, where did you guys acquire them from?  I think I make out "Cobra" on there and I can't find any information about that chip.

Our Chip was a 110nm self designed and self Produced chip.

Chip closeup -http://i1346.photobucket.com/albums/p683/Sandy_Bruce/BTC-24GH/DSC04480.jpg

Picture from - http://forums.pureoverclock.com/bitcoin-forum/25402-biostar-btc-24gh-board-closeup-testing-exclusive.html
legendary
Activity: 1512
Merit: 1000
July 30, 2014, 04:27:26 PM
#19
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What you want as miners from a miner. For example Size, power hookup, Easy to use, lots of fuctionality? You tell us.

Curious as to who manufactured the ASICs on your 24GH board, or rather, where did you guys acquire them from?  I think I make out "Cobra" on there and I can't find any information about that chip.
newbie
Activity: 9
Merit: 0
July 30, 2014, 04:20:41 PM
#18
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What you want as miners from a miner. For example Size, power hookup, Easy to use, lots of fuctionality? You tell us.
newbie
Activity: 9
Merit: 0
July 30, 2014, 04:15:46 PM
#17
Thanks for the great Review.

This was our first take at a Bitcoin mining board. Our chip is simular to the Asicminer BE100 chip and the BitcoinGarden Blade miners chip. This was a experimental project to see how the public would react to a known Computer hardware manufacture get into Bitcoin mining Hardware. We have stuff under the cover at the moment for our mass public release of our REV 2 miner code named Tasha.

more info on the Biostar BTC-24GH here - http://www.biostar.com.tw/app/en/event/bitcoin/page2.htm

Contact us via PM here for info on how to get a DEV REV 2 miner for Testing and Review.
legendary
Activity: 1218
Merit: 1003
July 30, 2014, 01:12:16 PM
#16
It is made ​​exclusively for collectors only.
Keep it in the box, never use and after years the value is bigger, if it ever can be mined.
Where can I buy it?
sr. member
Activity: 406
Merit: 250
July 30, 2014, 10:03:02 AM
#15
Very nice review, thanks for share your experience Smiley

Agreed. Very nice effort writing this for us. I appreciate another honest vendor/manufacturer entering the market. It may not be competitive nonetheless it adds to the diversity.

legendary
Activity: 2128
Merit: 1005
ASIC Wannabe
July 30, 2014, 07:46:59 AM
#14
At 5W/GH/s they're running more expensively than Avalons and BFl 65nm gear - which can had for more or less free nowadays.  Thanks for the review but this item is dead before it even hit the shelves.

if this is 110/130nm technology efficiency doesnt matter much - consider it as a small-batch test of thier design. If they go and replicate into 28nm they could catch up to the market quicly, and the review indicates a stable unit once mining. For a company like biostar playing catchup will be easier than it was for bitcoin manufacturers to oranise and fund thier first die-shrink


who knows - maybe a BTC-240GH is on the horizon at the same power draw (would require 28nm assuming this was 110nm)
sr. member
Activity: 427
Merit: 250
July 30, 2014, 04:01:36 AM
#13
Very nice review, thanks for share your experience Smiley
DrG
legendary
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Merit: 1035
July 30, 2014, 01:06:00 AM
#12
At 5W/GH/s they're running more expensively than Avalons and BFl 65nm gear - which can had for more or less free nowadays.  Thanks for the review but this item is dead before it even hit the shelves.
legendary
Activity: 1456
Merit: 1000
July 30, 2014, 12:23:53 AM
#11
I love that biostar or any motherboard company is looking into market.   I just wish they would do a little more current.  Like that BTC pro motherboard would have been amazing if it was produced a year before they did.  This seems like another product like it.

I applaud them for getting into market, just with with all their backing they would have done something a little different.  Where did you get this at?
full member
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Merit: 100
July 29, 2014, 11:38:40 PM
#10
hero member
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Merit: 1000
July 29, 2014, 11:27:34 PM
#9
It seems they're a year behind.  Hello! It's 2014!
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