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legendary
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The Plot Thickens:

Zimbeck claims to be the new leader of Bay. Claims he and the chinese mobsters are going to take Bay into the future.

Meanwhile one of the new chinese mafia schills from the new "offficial thread"  - -- M28MmickT ---- goes into the "official Bay Fud Thread"  and claims that this guy:

https://twitter.com/RyanPWright

Is Bob's partner.

The level of backstabbing and deception here is mind boggling.


NICE TRY HAHAHAHAHHAA WOW. I CANT BELIEVE GEKKO WOULD POST THIS. ELANOR RIGBY IS GEKKO. lol omg.


Fantastic.

AND THIS THIS THE REAL RYAN WRIGHT.
https://www.facebook.com/ryanwrights?fref=ts
legendary
Activity: 2412
Merit: 1044
Thanks for another reply.

I think Bay should be removed from all bittrex and bter, destroyed and just R.I.P.

That doesnt protect investors either though. Bob sold his coins and so did Ryan.

Its a paradox indeed. Maybe i just peg the damn coin.

Other ideas are a 1:1 exchange.

I would really like to see if the pegging works. But who would buy the coin for 1$ if you have pegged it?

Answering a few questions here:

Come back to BC:
I NEVER left. This mess im cleaning up. NT microtrader is on the agenda. Josh knows i was planning a big release. The microtrader is almost ready but coin daemons and markets have suffered a delay. It happens i can do an official statement. Halos next release is on the way and its a very big one. We got approved for some new articles. Its lovely.

People sold BC to buy BitBay:  
I told them not to until they proved themselves. I was talking privately about what was going on for a while. Once the sirens went off I was scrambling to peg and get a bigger team. Nobody should sell BC ever. They should buy it. One of the biggest BC bulls out there.

The 1$ Peg:
Its a goal. The buy wall needs to be high enough OR the supply needs to be small (like .1% liquid maybe?). My statements in this thread were to make it a moving peg. Lets start small and grow to that goal.

Am I going to take a bigger role in BitBay now?:
I'm going to do clean up like a janitor. However, im not a genie, i cant control the price before the peg. Its anyones guess now who is going to mop up the coins.

Im still very much a BC man. My hat goes off to rat4. Hes great(a real developer  Grin ). I hope all the big BC holders are out and the coin is distributed.

The two coins have similar goals they coincide. November NT deadline should have been pushed back a bit. I was grabbing low hanging fruit on my dev work. A minor setback lets hope there arent any more of those.

Like a plant we grow it. Patience. Plants dont just spring out of the ground and walk away they need water attention and time.

legendary
Activity: 2412
Merit: 1044
The Plot Thickens:

Zimbeck claims to be the new leader of Bay. Claims he and the chinese mobsters are going to take Bay into the future.

Meanwhile one of the new chinese mafia schills from the new "offficial thread"  - -- M28MmickT ---- goes into the "official Bay Fud Thread"  and claims that this guy:

https://twitter.com/RyanPWright

Is Bob's partner.

The level of backstabbing and deception here is mind boggling.

Wait for my statement. i'm only doing what is in my power to do.
member
Activity: 91
Merit: 10
The Plot Thickens:

Zimbeck claims to be the new leader of Bay. Claims he and the chinese mobsters are going to take Bay into the future.

Meanwhile one of the new chinese mafia schills from the new "offficial thread"  - -- M28MmickT ---- goes into the "official Bay Fud Thread"  and claims that this guy:

https://twitter.com/RyanPWright

Is Bob's partner.

The level of backstabbing and deception here is mind boggling.
member
Activity: 84
Merit: 10
david zimbeck made a big mistake by joining bitbay... why don't you stayed focus on blackcoin and night trader ?
Now blackcoin is agonizing, no news of nighttrader anymore ( it was scheduled for november... ) and ur name is associated to a scam coin now...  i has bought 2 000 000 bay cause i think bay will help BC to grow but now as i know this BAY coin is shit iam going to sell it to buy back BC.
Return back in BC, and let this BAY coin die before christmas


+1
member
Activity: 91
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I was out few days and don't have time to read 40+ pages today.

anyone can write me in few words what's going on? Please:)

BayScam?  Grin

Bingo.  
The guys David was partnered with were in on it from the beginning.
Depending on which version you believe (or guess at), David either:
A) Found out it was crap early on and hid it from investors.
B) Knew it was crap from the beginning but needed money.
C) Was completely clueless about the whole thing until the ICO but believed he could save it somehow.
D) Was the mastermind behind the whole thing.
BTER was most likely involved in buying BAY with BTC that didn't even exist during IPO.
Bob & Gekko (Ryan) took them for a crapload of both BTC and BAY... then dumped the latter.
Steven, David (and probably Lin too why not) have between 30-50% of the BAY and between 30-50% of the BTC - waiting on addresses for this if it happens.

And the price has come back nearly 30% from the shakeout... and has had decent buy support despite nothing but drama and 2 additional threads being spawned.   Roll Eyes

Probably missed some stuff, but basically is SNAFU in crypto land again.  Undecided

I will state the chronology of events and i can back it up if need be:

(Chronological order)
Steven approaches me for a coin. Promises literally everything discussed. I question him hard core to make sure it was legitimate. Proceeded with caution.
Gekko(Ryan) Bob come in a few days before the PreANN asking me to take a slightly larger share and they would bring in a team and pay devs (similar to what Steve said)
I had a long talk with Ryan grilling him on many questions. He assured me it was not a pump, that they would pay DEVs, get a staff, not use me for my name.
Steven says its OK they will not release my name until the ICO goes through an it is honest
Then Ryan immediately betrays what Steven said and plasters my name all over it
I get upset, discuss my anger with Steven and Bob, they both claim its "Ok" and Gekko got excited
Now i get chewed out by BC. BUT a deposit on my work was made (25 BTC)
I explain to BC the pros and cons. Most of them defend me, some didnt (take the good with the bad be a man)
I advance with exreme caution. Deposit was already made.
They start the ICO and all hell breaks loose.
I decided to defend them would be to equally defend investors(defend everyone). They promise they will not dump their coins (like broken records)
My hand was forced, i had to advance.

The rest as they say is history.

I really dont want to beat this issue to death. Let me prepare a public statement and try to figure out this paradox. I'm interested only in protecting investors at this point and doing the work that i was asked to do. Im transparent everyone knows that and willing to take the good with the bad and roll with the punches.

Anything you hear from this point forward on forums is beating the issue. Bitcointalk has degraded since its early days. This is why i avoid this forum unless required to.

Any positive ideas investors may take place on the other thread. If investors want to help protect this one, it will be helpful.

For anyone who reads Zimbecks post above:

Zimbeck knew all the facts from the start, was 1/5, partner in the ICO, received massive amounts of BTC and BAY from BTer for his role in this sorry mess.

Zimbeck knew from the start that Bob Surplus was in on the deal and 1/5 partner.

Zimbeck hid his knowledge of all these facts - including the massive fraud in BTer - from both the Black Coin community and the Bay Community the entire time - until the house of cards came tumbling down.

Zimbeck is now scurrying from reddit to BTCT trying to convince everyone that he was an innocent victim in all this, and point the finger at Notorius Bob.

Zinbeck is currently doing nothing to help reveal the BTer fraud. In fact, quite the opposite - the chinese mafia figures who were behind the scam are the new thread moderators at the "new, official BAY thread".  Which Zimbeck is now promoting.

Bob has not dumped his coins. A look at the charts will tell you this. David, Bob, and the chinese mafia can dump bay on the market anytime. Bay is now a magic piggy bank for the con artists that started it - as long as they can keep people believing. For this they need a front man? Who is that?  You guessed it.

Zimbeck can tell "his version" of this sad mess until the cows come home. It will not change the facts.


sr. member
Activity: 392
Merit: 250
david zimbeck made a big mistake by joining bitbay... why don't you stayed focus on blackcoin and night trader ?
Now blackcoin is agonizing, no news of nighttrader anymore ( it was scheduled for november... ) and ur name is associated to a scam coin now...  i has bought 2 000 000 bay cause i think bay will help BC to grow but now as i know this BAY coin is shit iam going to sell it to buy back BC.
Return back in BC, and let this BAY coin die before christmas

It's sad that people sold blackcoin for it and price of BC went down because of this scam.

Very.  I didn't do that... but in hindsight I should have (Holding BC throughout this didn't do me any favors either).  Well, I was hoping to pick up some more cheap... looks like I'll get that chance.
hero member
Activity: 600
Merit: 500
Thanks for another reply.

I think Bay should be removed from all bittrex and bter, destroyed and just R.I.P.

That doesnt protect investors either though. Bob sold his coins and so did Ryan.

Its a paradox indeed. Maybe i just peg the damn coin.

Other ideas are a 1:1 exchange.

I would really like to see if the pegging works. But who would buy the coin for 1$ if you have pegged it?
hero member
Activity: 600
Merit: 500
david zimbeck made a big mistake by joining bitbay... why don't you stayed focus on blackcoin and night trader ?
Now blackcoin is agonizing, no news of nighttrader anymore ( it was scheduled for november... ) and ur name is associated to a scam coin now...  i has bought 2 000 000 bay cause i think bay will help BC to grow but now as i know this BAY coin is shit iam going to sell it to buy back BC.
Return back in BC, and let this BAY coin die before christmas

It's sad that people sold blackcoin for it and price of BC went down because of this scam.
sr. member
Activity: 392
Merit: 250
Thank you very much for this post. 40pages+ when you don't have time for crap talk is really hard...

The most shocking part the story of Bay Scam is bter for me...

You're welcome, and yes - the rest is either sad or irritating... but the Steven/Lin connection and the allegations of 'phantom BTC' are (to me as well) the most shocking revelations.

Talk about insider trading on a different level!  This setup puts Bernie to shame in every way including brazen stupidity (though admittedly for chump change in a payoff comparatively speaking).  Exchange operators spawning P-n-D coins themselves is pretty much the nail in the coffin for alts IMO.  Of course, that doesn't mean I actually think there won't be 40 new coins (at least) launched before Jan 1.  Cheesy
sr. member
Activity: 475
Merit: 500
And so it begins. The parade of angry, negative people who have no stake in this game but want to see BitBay fail. We have seen this before, in other threads, the people who have nothing better to do then try to tear down a coin they don't even own.

BitBay has sold out its ico. The market has spoken. Not only that, this is just the beginning. Some really exciting times ahead. Congratulations to everyone who is onboard. Let's do this.

i don't want it to fail, it will fail because its most likely nothing behind.
they got already hundreds of BTC before they did anything, all the ico's collecting thousands of btc are ridiculous.
What happens if nobody delivers, what do you think?
Nothing.


just because everybody was angry on my comments...
hero member
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cloverdex.io
I have 50,000 BB now I wait until can sell for 50,000$ ? Yes. I can do that. Im a patient man.
legendary
Activity: 2412
Merit: 1044
Thanks for another reply.

I think Bay should be removed from all bittrex and bter, destroyed and just R.I.P.

That doesnt protect investors either though. Bob sold his coins and so did Ryan.

Its a paradox indeed. Maybe i just peg the damn coin.

Other ideas are a 1:1 exchange.
sr. member
Activity: 475
Merit: 500
knew it already from beginning .. absolutely no surprise, honestly
hero member
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see my profile
IF there is anything going on with this coin itself,
- apart from the (necessary) scam discussion -

... what about a 2nd thread for that?

This here is obviously the bayscam thread,
so what about a baycoin thread?

hero member
Activity: 560
Merit: 500
Thanks for another reply.

I think Bay should be removed from all bittrex and bter, destroyed and just R.I.P.
legendary
Activity: 2412
Merit: 1044
I was out few days and don't have time to read 40+ pages today.

anyone can write me in few words what's going on? Please:)

BayScam?  Grin

Bingo.  
The guys David was partnered with were in on it from the beginning.
Depending on which version you believe (or guess at), David either:
A) Found out it was crap early on and hid it from investors.
B) Knew it was crap from the beginning but needed money.
C) Was completely clueless about the whole thing until the ICO but believed he could save it somehow.
D) Was the mastermind behind the whole thing.
BTER was most likely involved in buying BAY with BTC that didn't even exist during IPO.
Bob & Gekko (Ryan) took them for a crapload of both BTC and BAY... then dumped the latter.
Steven, David (and probably Lin too why not) have between 30-50% of the BAY and between 30-50% of the BTC - waiting on addresses for this if it happens.

And the price has come back nearly 30% from the shakeout... and has had decent buy support despite nothing but drama and 2 additional threads being spawned.   Roll Eyes

Probably missed some stuff, but basically is SNAFU in crypto land again.  Undecided

I will state the chronology of events and i can back it up if need be:

(Chronological order)
Steven approaches me for a coin. Promises literally everything discussed. I question him hard core to make sure it was legitimate. Proceeded with caution.
Gekko(Ryan) Bob come in a few days before the PreANN asking me to take a slightly larger share and they would bring in a team and pay devs (similar to what Steve said)
I had a long talk with Ryan grilling him on many questions. He assured me it was not a pump, that they would pay DEVs, get a staff, not use me for my name.
Steven says its OK they will not release my name until the ICO goes through an it is honest
Then Ryan immediately betrays what Steven said and plasters my name all over it
I get upset, discuss my anger with Steven and Bob, they both claim its "Ok" and Gekko got excited
Now i get chewed out by BC. BUT a deposit on my work was made (25 BTC)
I explain to BC the pros and cons. Most of them defend me, some didnt (take the good with the bad be a man)
I advance with exreme caution. Deposit was already made.
They start the ICO and all hell breaks loose.
I decided to defend them would be to equally defend investors(defend everyone). They promise they will not dump their coins (like broken records)
My hand was forced, i had to advance.

The rest as they say is history.

I really dont want to beat this issue to death. Let me prepare a public statement and try to figure out this paradox. I'm interested only in protecting investors at this point and doing the work that i was asked to do. Im transparent everyone knows that and willing to take the good with the bad and roll with the punches.

Anything you hear from this point forward on forums is beating the issue. Bitcointalk has degraded since its early days. This is why i avoid this forum unless required to.

Any positive ideas investors may take place on the other thread. If investors want to help protect this one, it will be helpful.
hero member
Activity: 560
Merit: 500
I was out few days and don't have time to read 40+ pages today.

anyone can write me in few words what's going on? Please:)

BayScam?  Grin

Bingo.  
The guys David was partnered with were in on it from the beginning.
Depending on which version you believe (or guess at), David either:
A) Found out it was crap early on and hid it from investors.
B) Knew it was crap from the beginning but needed money.
C) Was completely clueless about the whole thing until the ICO but believed he could save it somehow.
D) Was the mastermind behind the whole thing.
BTER was most likely involved in buying BAY with BTC that didn't even exist during IPO.
Bob & Gekko (Ryan) took them for a crapload of both BTC and BAY... then dumped the latter.
Steven, David (and probably Lin too why not) have between 30-50% of the BAY and between 30-50% of the BTC - waiting on addresses for this if it happens.

And the price has come back nearly 30% from the shakeout... and has had decent buy support despite nothing but drama and 2 additional threads being spawned.   Roll Eyes

Probably missed some stuff, but basically is SNAFU in crypto land again.  Undecided

Thank you very much for this post. 40pages+ when you don't have time for crap talk is really hard...

The most shocking part the story of Bay Scam is bter for me...
sr. member
Activity: 406
Merit: 250
I was out few days and don't have time to read 40+ pages today.

anyone can write me in few words what's going on? Please:)

BayScam?  Grin

Bingo.  
The guys David was partnered with were in on it from the beginning.
Depending on which version you believe (or guess at), David either:
A) Found out it was crap early on and hid it from investors.
B) Knew it was crap from the beginning but needed money.
C) Was completely clueless about the whole thing until the ICO but believed he could save it somehow.
D) Was the mastermind behind the whole thing.
BTER was most likely involved in buying BAY with BTC that didn't even exist during IPO.
Bob & Gekko (Ryan) took them for a crapload of both BTC and BAY... then dumped the latter.
Steven, David (and probably Lin too why not) have between 30-50% of the BAY and between 30-50% of the BTC - waiting on addresses for this if it happens.

And the price has come back nearly 30% from the shakeout... and has had decent buy support despite nothing but drama and 2 additional threads being spawned.   Roll Eyes

Probably missed some stuff, but basically is SNAFU in crypto land again.  Undecided

lol, yeah just another normal day on bitcointalk.... 
sr. member
Activity: 392
Merit: 250
I was out few days and don't have time to read 40+ pages today.

anyone can write me in few words what's going on? Please:)

BayScam?  Grin

Bingo.  
The guys David was partnered with were in on it from the beginning.
Depending on which version you believe (or guess at), David either:
A) Found out it was crap early on and hid it from investors.
B) Knew it was crap from the beginning but needed money.
C) Was completely clueless about the whole thing until the ICO but believed he could save it somehow.
D) Was the mastermind behind the whole thing.
BTER was most likely involved in buying BAY with BTC that didn't even exist during IPO.
Bob & Gekko (Ryan) took them for a crapload of both BTC and BAY... then dumped the latter.
Steven, David (and probably Lin too why not) have between 30-50% of the BAY and between 30-50% of the BTC - waiting on addresses for this if it happens.

And the price has come back nearly 30% from the shakeout... and has had decent buy support despite nothing but drama and 2 additional threads being spawned.   Roll Eyes

Probably missed some stuff, but basically is SNAFU in crypto land again.  Undecided
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