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Youve got some nerve blackwavelabs. You sent me a personal email approving of me and DENIED what you wrote in there had anything to do with me even when i openly questioned you about it. Want me to link to that too? So you should not be shooting you or your exchange in the foot. I asked to collaborate with you about 100 times through personal email and you generally ignored it. It was in both of our best interest to work together. There NEEDS to be software developement. How can you deny that? Thats what crypto is lacking. They dont need another damn centralized exchange to make your BC bag bigger. They need a decentralized exchange. Oh and you do in fact have a MUCh larger stake in BTC than me. You should support me.

Oh and I did want to add to the protocol. PEGGING.

The world needs software and every public statement you make that ignores that, contradicts itself. You are basically saying that the car needs and engine but no wheels or body.

I was out few days and don't have time to read 40+ pages today.

anyone can write me in few words what's going on? Please:)

BayScam? 

At a guess almost all of it since it started soon after the markets opened.  The rest (if any) is probably just waiting for the price to get propped up a little... then down again.

NOM OM OM ON OMO N OM OM OM ON OM  and the ship goes down you better be ready *CrypresHill* 

Having Zimbeck and Bter attached to the deal would be just as valid as having Blackwavelabs attached to it. Equal trust. In hindsight I'll gladly admit I was wrong and naive. But up front the naysayers were on equal footing with the yaysayers.

And now the whole cat has been let out of the bag I really can't blame the extreme bulls for holding on and waiting for better days. That's still a possibility. It's just that those funds would've really, really helped in making that a reality faster.

Just chiming in to say if my posts earlier were acknowledged you would have avoided this obvious scam. It comes down to the same thing over and over, that "developers" advertise wallet features without doing nothing to the protocol. We wrote about it here: https://blackwavelabs.com

If everyone starts understanding the distinctions it will be hard to keep pulling this scam over and over again.

By the way, thats a Bitmessage issue. It had nothing to do with Halo at all.

EDIT:
More specifically its an openssl thing. I think its overkill to make people download openssl in the installer and im understaffed so that is not a high priority issue since it effects less than 1% of the systems.

uhhh because i can prove them? lol... do you really want to turn bitcointalk into 4chan? talking in bitcoin talk is like bathing in the sewers now.

Annnnnd... i never sold my Bitbay(that has already been shown). There was no way i was going to fund it with the bitbay and there is no way on earth im going to do that now.

Bob has been stealing the spotlight from Gekko, lets not forget about him! He deserves some attention too!
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just rename / relaunch it, sheeps will throw money at it like always

Yes. It's tainted, it's fcked up & it's rotting BUT it's not something that can't be fixed. If it gets fixed from here..one year from now people won't even remember what happened today.

Will it be fixed? I have no fcking way to tell unless I'm one of the guy who started it.

This is a badly tainted scandal. Do you really think it can be recovered and brought around to be an honest coin?

I create ICO

I buy my own coins - 60% of it

I pump after ICO

I use woolong technique and advertise the shit out of it

I slowly dump once price has reached 500-1000%

I take my profit and walk away leaving coin to survive on its own

This has been the new fashion to scam people and I  can tell you this NEVER end well for everyone who are running it. One or two people get the profit while rest of them are left screaming. Either way I don't know who is right and who is wrong here and nor do I care anymore as long as project is moving forward from here.

Can it be fixed? Sure it can. Are they doing anything to fix it? I have no fcking way to find out or prove it so I'll just sit back and relax and see what comes next. If my 20 BTC turns into .0001. Let it be. I'm in no way exiting the market after taking 90% loss. BTW this is my last investment in crypto and I'm done with it. Stocks were unregulatd at one time and same kind of shit were being pulled on daily basis. Only issue is that if people look at crypto as stocks and quick rich schemes then that's all it'll ever become and more importantly it'll be dead in few years once people have had enough of it and scammers will have no way to milk money out of it.

In last 2 months I've found out about 8 fcking scams in crypto. That's just beyond pathetic and anyone who thinks that we'll ever become NEXT NEW TECHNOLOGY is just delusional.

If you ever want to make money in crypto CREATE YOUR OWN COIN. Buy 60% of ICO and then dump it on everyones head. I cannot get myself to do it because I have conscience and it never feel right to scam people but that's the only way to become RICH overnight. There is no other way you can do it. period.

I agree with you... I crafted that post to be intentionally 'softer' on the David/Steven side to see if it would actually remain in the new, new, new Bitbay thread.  It lasted less than 2 minutes actually - and it's in your thread with a 'special gift to you'.    (Also... fuck off and die, LOL) 

You cannot be this stupid, really, can you?

Steven engineered the whole thing. Along with Lin, in on the "deal" from the get go. Steven (and Lin) then contacted Bob and he came on board. Subsequently, Steven got Zimbeck, for shit load of money and Zimbeck found out about Bob/Gekko involvement about two minutes after he got his first money (make a note of this, ok? 350 BTC -he has admitted only to 191...- plus 100 million BAYs). When he found out Bob was involved, not only he enthusiastically approved of the pump but was as lured and supportive as anyone in the group --more so in fact, read the fucking logs-.

So it is fully clear to everyone (since you cannot be reached): There are no innocents here. Crooks all. The worst imaginable kind of crooks if you have to make distinctions. From Steven the mobster, to Lin the crook, to Zimbeck the Turd and of course including Bob and Gekko, the worst pair of lowlives on the face of the earth. They all belong in jail, but with the key thrown out to the fucking deep sea. Get it now?

And make no mistake about it: BAY, under whatever denomination, Halo and anything that anyone of these crooks will ever touch, is doomed. You, the blind, greedy, hypocrites, equally low lives as the aforementioned -sans the opportunity to steal-, will not salvage a single penny here. Or anywhere you choose to follow these crooks individually, on pairs or as a group.

This shit is done, stick a fork in it. And I am not just referring to BAY.

PS this was directed to digicidal in particular, but obviously to a much wider group too.

Sad that I have to post this HERE... of all places... but it got deleted from the other thread:

Uhh yeah, this still stinks. 

I still am a huge bull on the success of a broad-spectrum decentralized marketplace as being the best application for crypto-currency in general.  But blind trust can only go so far - and that ship has sailed.    You say you'll buy back coins, you say you'll restore value - but if there's one thing that's clear from the logs that just David posted (don't really trust anything from Bob under any circumstances)... it's that you (the current team) weren't willing to risk anything yourselves from the beginning.  You hedged your bets (and then some actually)... at the expense of the investors themselves.

To put any more faith in the team - regardless of their optimism and apparent goodwill, should require (at a minimum):

100% transparency for all current parties
All held BTC, all held BAY, and all distributed BAY/BTC. We know Bob & co walked with ~691BTC, and dumped some/all of their BAY - but what about Lin/Steven/David?  Distribution is critical, and the numbers are very fishy, but we have no proof that Lin isn't still involved, and (to me at least) if he 'cooked the books' for the ICO, upfront... that's every bit as bad if not worse than what Bob & Co. did.  It's certainly worse than what David and Steven did - and I'm far from absolving them of blame (but they do seem to be more on the side of 'stupid' rather than 'crooked' in all this).

100% transparency of communication
The cat's already out of the bag... so let's have the un-edited logs from all parties in one pastebin.  Since at least Steven and David are still involved (and I presume Lin is as well)... should be simple enough to have 2/3 party confirmation on their validity.  Not that I think it will help the price any... but better to go to 1 sat now - and get all the time-bombs out at once - than get further down this rabbit-hole only to find another 3 waiting to trash everything again!  (Naturally the timeline for this is NOW... if it can't be done in the next hour, then it's likely to be every bit as doctored as Bob's are.

Proof of backing - preferably 3rd party escrow/trust
Since the value of the coins themselves is currently garbage, and a big chuck of the BTC was either stolen/extorted (call it whatever you want, it's gone) - how much of the funds remain, and under what circumstances can they be used?  The investors' BTC was exchanged for 'hope-tokens' on the belief that our BTC was being used to fund development of the coin, establish hedging, marketing costs, and later on perhaps pegging.  So where are you getting the requisite funds to do that now?!?  I'm sure I speak for most (even those rabidly supportive still) when I say that it would probably not be the best thing to still have you guys in charge of the 'money side' of this operation... I could see a homeless man convincing you he was the CEO of Citibank at this point possibly. 

There's a hundred more likely questions - and to be honest, I'm out and not likely to be investing so much as a dime in this again - even after the markets are here.  Not to say I won't use those markets if the actually do occur - but I'm definitely not holding my breath or doubling down on a team that made this many critical mistakes in judgement before even getting to the starting line.

Are Bobsurplus/Gekko & Co. a bunch of criminals?  Certainly.  Is Lin guilty of fraud, money laundering, and theft if he used so much as a single 'phantom-satoshi' let alone multiple BTC to falsify volume/sales and accumulate free BAY? Completely.  However, there is such a thing as guilt by association - and even if there was absolutely nothing else criminal on the David/Steven side... that's enough for me to write off my losses and walk.

Sad day guys... in reality the damage you all have helped perpetrate against cryptocurrency in general by your actions, is more disgusting than the petty crimes involved in this directly.   

BECAUSE They are stupid bagholders

Gee thanks. What we really need is you telling everybody they'll get karma and idiots in this thread are going to expect free karma coin.

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