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Volume, fair distribution, and strong community will attract Poloniex. Props to David for the years of development even with some hard times. This is a selling point to all exchanges. All community members really should submit a coin request. Be friendly and courteous when submitting. Talk in the troll box but remember to RESPECT THE MODS when they ask you to stop talking about non-listed coins. Try to be more like the XMG community.  

https://poloniex.com/coinRequest

POLO adding bay would be the start of the exposure we need.

Yes I agree though most know that David did nothing wrong and all of this is 2 years old so no need for it to be covered again. I see the return of the puppets and other critics as a good thing. You always seem to get fud before a breakout.

Just need more volume I expect to entice polo.

If you do not believe the comment directly above mine and David telling Bob to F-Off is negative then you sir are a moron. I'm rooting for BAY and I was one of the first to buy from the ICO. I still hold and want to see success. It's time to put the past behind BAY and move forward. Stop responding to Bob because we already know he is trash. That is so 2 years ago. Just remember lot's of people are watching BAY right know wondering if it's going to be the next big coin. NOT EVERYONE WHO IS HOLDING POSTS. Every time someone new checks the status of BAY and sees these comments it's a turnoff. As far as my sources for the Polo addition I guess we will just have to wait and see.

Which sources do you talk about? & why would somebody new to crypto have any inside knowledge from Polo? I'm sure if Bitbay is been considered the people making that decision wouldn't tell people like yourself with the greatest respect.

Also  I haven't read any negativity towards Bitbay. Why should anyone be negative? I mean it has so much to look forward to in the next 6 months, community & awareness is growing & we have the best in the crypto world developing Bitbay! Plus David's always active & willing to chat to anyone with questions. He doesn't hide behind fake profiles also joe!

Sources have said Poloniex is seriously considering adding BAY. I hope recent comments do not detour them. Very disappointed in the BAY community for their comments. Too much negativity!!!

Well if and when cryptos make a few pissed off scam victims incredibly wealthy the means and resources will be there.

Well obviously there was things I did wrong and things I'm sorry for. The quote goes "The fault dear Brutus lies not in our stars but in ourselves". It's key not only to be honest to other but also with ourselves. Granted, it's challenging to pay attention to potential threats, pitfalls etc in life when its so damn easy to get overwhelmed.

The point is, there is software here that is the result of years of work and it absolutely has value and deserve to be a top 20 coin. There is no doubt in my mind.

I realize insulting Theymos isn't the best idea hahahaha. It is just something most people don't realize about this forum. Unfortunately it suffers from poor management.

It's still the best forum for investors obviously.

I know people don't like Facebook or Google because of all they do to violate our privacy and how they manipulate information. However, what other platforms are there for fair distribution?!

I mentioned Reddit for that exact reason. But we want to reach the average Joe who doesn't care about Facebook politics and everyone has a Facebook. Perhaps it's a good idea to give multiple options??

Perhaps mining and ICO and distribution to valid Facebook/Reddit/Gmail profiles?! Steemit did that and found fast adoption.

Everyone knows you did nothing wrong david.

However, distributiong via facebook is not so good. Most people who want any privacy don't use fb.

POW is still the best way so long as fair release protocol is followed with a long and even mining period.

Perhaps we should not be too vocal or mention theylmos too much I mean if bitbay gets banned from this board or you do then that would be a big nail in the coffin at this point.

polo should be prime target

Theymos himself has been implicated in scams. He also has no respect for peoples privacy. He has been known to release private messages to courts to help prosecute companies(which i think is extremely unethical). But then he won't stop serial scammers that have been abusing the forums. In theory because the forum is moderated, he has a fiduciary responsibility to remove any attempts of impersonation, and blatant privacy violations.

What's funny is, I have seen threads explaining how Theymos has done favors for moderators which shows he's also a hypocrite. For example one guy insulted a mod and Theymos helped remove the offending posts. The guy works for a Senate office and is basically a total sellout and schill. Not to mention he raised Bitcoins and kept them in a few scandals of his own. Also I sent Theymos PMs, emails, even contacted on Reddit and he ignored me never a single reply not even just as a gentleman. So yeah it casts serious doubt on the agenda of Bitcointalk.

As for my agenda honestly if you saw all the early chat logs you will see how most the convos were about tech. Steven offered to pay to use Halo tech at the time being 100 btc plus 10% of the coin which he offered to buy on the exchange. Bob came in with Ryan days before and asked if I would split a portion of what was raised and said they would set aside at least 500 btc for dev fund.

Considering it wasn't my project, the deal looked good obviously and I had not considered that all 4 of them were liars. Unfortunately, I never complained about how they structured the project which I realize was something that I should have done. I never asked why they were getting similar portions as the main dev. At the time I said I only wanted to be a project manager and they could hire devs. Lin said he had devs but that turned out to be bullshit. I figured at least Steven would stay on board. Not having control of finances was obviously a huge problem. And it took me a couple weeks to expose them. Consider during that time they were extorting from everyone anyways. What would you do if you saw them faking volume? If I told investors immediately, it would have ended up the same anyways. I'm not sure if being quiet about it for two weeks was wrong or not but that's why I had shifted gears to pegging early. The advantage of waiting was at least i got more evidence against them which helped defend us. They were the ones in control of BCT so that worked against the project too. Even the news saw all my chat logs and was unable to find anything showing I knew in advance.

Anyways that's old news. If anything it makes for a crazy story. However success is very sweet revenge and it would be totally awesome if this works out as planned. The ideas are sound. All that's left is hard work. I think this coins distribution is way better than a lot of premine coins.

For example I was told Fuelcoin dev had more than 90% of the supply. I've heard similar things about Scotcoin. Not sure which allegations are true.

If I had a coin honestly I would distribute based on valid Reddit or Facebook profiles since those are hard to fake.

Oh, In this particular case, yes. I was talking generally.
Linn of BTER in collusion with bobsurplus, if memory serves correctly. Although, its fair to note, that David was also part of that equation. But for what its worth, im satisfied that David's agenda was on the correct side of corruptible. Credit for carrying on, and taking a decision to stick around, and take all the flac that that episode created, IMO.   

Wasn't the exchange operator the prime enabler of the scam?

Who are bays main challengers?
sys and sdc?
How similar are they really and how good is their tech. I mean seriously BAYs price is a joke still. As soon as these dumpers are out of ammo I expect some huge bumps in price and then in interest.
Shame we can't attract some tech knowledgable BTC whales that can see some promise here and clear these dumpers coins from the exchanges once and for all. Look at some of this shit coins in the top 50. Wtf are these coins doing there with BAY being magnitudes lower in cap. Crazy.

We need to get more volume and make it to polo too. I would hope busoni would realise who David is and the project is serious and add Bay anyway.

Yes there is, but Theymos and the exchange operators choose not to use the data/metrics available to them.

The thing that bothers me the most is that these guys continue to pull their scams on others and there is no mechanism to stop it. I remember the day David made the first post about the group and what had transpired. Not a pretty thing after buying from the ICO and honestly, until I researched the issue, I wasn't sure who to trust. It didn't take long to figure that out however and the rest is history but, it still amazes me how people can pull off blatantly illegal stunts, with no consideration for the people who are being hurt, and not suffer the consequences.

At least not in THIS life...

All very good points. Yes, best to just let things go. Hopefully they have sold most of their bay trying to destroy the project early on. I remember they drove the price down to 18 sats at one point.

Well, considering how much negative PR it was for Ethereum to revert their bug, I think nuking their wallets could backfire. Personally I like the idea but the hard core coin enthusiasts will argue against centralized maneuvers.

ETC "Classic" was such a monkey wrench for ETH and I'm not sure they will ever recover from that. They might but it causes tons of confusion to new buyers.

Also it would be difficult to prove which wallets were theirs... perhaps freeze them until they identify themselves or carefully track it, however there is a lot involved in that. Our slack group seems to have a good idea of who owns what.

Consider that anywhere from 30-60% of Bitcoins are stolen from exchanges or government seizure or escrow failure. Not to mention "Satoshis wallet" who nobody seems to know who owns it. So considering that, its probably just best to build a good coin. A lot of their coins have been bought by the core team already too. Our distribution is actually pretty good compared to other coins.

Trust Your Gut and Follow your Intuition

Why would you want to do that? You already have a Dev who can do it, are you in a hurry? Being in a hurry and profiting from Crypto in the long run do not jive...

David just said he can complete it alone so there is essentially no need to hire anyone. Patience is key here. Bay could become something very huge in the future. It seems like it could become a comprehensive market place/exchange. In future it could really be totally self sufficient needing nothing other than people using it. I like this project more than 99% of others on here and David has shown himself to be talented, honest, hardworking and available. Show me any other projects with such promise under 10M cap. They are very few and far between. When everything comes to fruition I would expect this to be a top 10 contender if not top 5.

Honestly I coded all of this so far and Im already pretty sure how I want to code the rest so yes I can finish alone.

As far as it being hard, yes sometimes very hard. Other times it writes itself. I had to self teach myself Python and then when hitting bugs there was nowhere to look on the internet for how to fix them so I had to get creative. There was lots of trial and error. Sometimes a typo would set me back for days! Some bugs required their own devs to fix such as Bitmessage dev and I sent multiple reports to him about how it was broken. Sure enough that got fixed.

It would be awesome to find some dev help however training and motivating them would probably just slow me down at this point.

No, I will probably have to finish it myself unless we get outside funding.

And since you guys have downloaded updates, seen multiple updates (compare it to two years ago its totally transformed), and thanks to help from testers. The day will come soon.

Thank you David.

My second question is, is the code hard to do? Do you think you can do it without any additional helper?