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legendary
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Bitcoin: An Idea Worth Spending
legendary
Activity: 1918
Merit: 1570
Bitcoin: An Idea Worth Spending
I'm pretty sure you didn't understand anything I said but to summarize.

  • teach
  • show
  • effective method for updating
  • leave everything working

Failure to do so will mean all the effort was for nothing.

And no I'm not commenting about you or sean's outpost.  I'm just generally talking about how it should be.

No I get all that.

But like you said, you are talking about how it should be. I am talking about how it is. If you have suggestions on getting from point A to B, i  am all ears.

A nice little conversation you two been having, offering up some takeaways.

Jason: I'm not sure if you've had a chance to do a cursory review of PanPeru.org of which Vicente recently updated the site, along with having a Bitcoin donation option embedded via BitPay, but if not, please do such.

Since nobody has else has weighed in, it's up to me, you, edd and Rassah to finalize the approval process. Personally, I found no concerns, and believe am the first to donate bitcoins to the cause.

In a few minutes, I'm going to make the same exact donation to Sean's Outpost, plus I have something else up my sleeve, of which once I do it, I'll PM you the link to the thread.

Thanks, bud.
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I'm pretty sure you didn't understand anything I said but to summarize.

  • teach
  • show
  • effective method for updating
  • leave everything working

Failure to do so will mean all the effort was for nothing.

And no I'm not commenting about you or sean's outpost.  I'm just generally talking about how it should be.

No I get all that.

But like you said, you are talking about how it should be. I am talking about how it is. If you have suggestions on getting from point A to B, i  am all ears.
member
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I'm pretty sure you didn't understand anything I said but to summarize.

  • teach
  • show
  • effective method for updating
  • leave everything working

Failure to do so will mean all the effort was for nothing.

And no I'm not commenting about you or sean's outpost.  I'm just generally talking about how it should be.
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Activity: 210
Merit: 100
What I keep running into, is that they have such a huge disconnect between the people who run the charity and the people who run the website. I have three charities on the line to take bitcoin ALL OF WHOM have a problem with getting there webmaster to update content.

It's not only accepting Bitcoin and done.  It's also education on Bitcoin and showing them the entire process.  You have to leave a way for them to learn and to shift to a new system where they update their content weekly at the most.
Anyone can accept Bitcoin.  Even probably some homeless guy down the street, but if they don't know how it works, then showing them Bitcoin has no benefit.

Yeah, I pretty much disagree with everything you just said here.

Bitcoin and done? Obviously you have to explain the value of bitcoin and lay out a method for having them implement it. That has nothing to do with the poor methodologies used by the IT departments at a lot of non profits. I come from a startup background, so once a decision is made I am use to it being able to be implemented quickly. Most of the worlds organizations don't operate like that. Once they have approved something, the process to implementation is often long and fraught with bureaucracy. If you have an actual suggestion on how we can work on that, I would love to hear it.

Update their content weekly at the most? I don't know what this means. Do you mean they should update the content at least once a week? That maybe true.  And maybe they do, but they do it by emailing a guy, who emails a guy who actually updates it. And the unfortunate truth is that no amount of hand holding can get a company out of a shitty IT Service Contract that they have gotten themselves into. At least not quickly.

Im going to not go off on the homeless comment here, but it was really uncalled for. And wholly incorrect. Read what Sean's Outpost does EVERYDAY.  
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What I keep running into, is that they have such a huge disconnect between the people who run the charity and the people who run the website. I have three charities on the line to take bitcoin ALL OF WHOM have a problem with getting there webmaster to update content.

It's not only accepting Bitcoin and done.  It's also education on Bitcoin and showing them the entire process.  You have to leave a way for them to learn and to shift to a new system where they update their content weekly at the most.
Anyone can accept Bitcoin.  Even probably some homeless guy down the street, but if they don't know how it works, then showing them Bitcoin has no benefit.
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*bump*


In the mean time, I know we're all busy with voting for me in the Bicoin Foundation elections (except for Jason you backstabing bastard  Grin),

I'm not a backstabber so much as kill-you-in-your-sleep-and-make-it-look-like-a-heart-attacker.

I missed you guys too.


You could be worse, like drinking the Kool Aid and take bribes.  Grin (if you don't know the backstory, you're really outside the loop)

Great article you linked above, and another fine example of Vitalik's writing skills. You're young enough to eventually see a Satoshi Forest in every state/country as I envision it.

Hey man, I actually beat you to the bribe. They sent us 75BTC in June. And you're not on record in Ars Technica saying "They could have spent that money on hookers and blow but they chose to feed the homeless instead"

I would love to see Satoshi Forest in every state. You know we do take BTC and it's posted on our site...Smiley

legendary
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Bitcoin: An Idea Worth Spending
*bump*


In the mean time, I know we're all busy with voting for me in the Bicoin Foundation elections (except for Jason you backstabing bastard  Grin),

I'm not a backstabber so much as kill-you-in-your-sleep-and-make-it-look-like-a-heart-attacker.

I missed you guys too.


You could be worse, like drinking the Kool Aid and take bribes.  Grin (if you don't know the backstory, you're really outside the loop)

Great article you linked above, and another fine example of Vitalik's writing skills. You're young enough to eventually see a Satoshi Forest in every state/country as I envision it.
full member
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*bump*


In the mean time, I know we're all busy with voting for me in the Bicoin Foundation elections (except for Jason you backstabing bastard  Grin),

I'm not a backstabber so much as kill-you-in-your-sleep-and-make-it-look-like-a-heart-attacker.

I missed you guys too.





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Hey guys,

Wanted to jump in and give you guys an update on what I have been working on for BTC100.

So the difficulty I'm finding is different than I would have imagined. I thought I would have a hard time convincing non-profits to take bitcoin, but so far I have not. At least in theory. What I keep running into, is that they have such a huge disconnect between the people who run the charity and the people who run the website. I have three charities on the line to take bitcoin ALL OF WHOM have a problem with getting there webmaster to update content.

Isn't this 2013. Doesn't everybody have content management? Does anyone have a suggestion for making this better?

Man.

So after much waiting, I just heard from Keith McHenry from food not bombs. They should have a bitcoin donation section up on their donate page at foodnotbombs.net here shortly. Maybe even today. This is going to be a big one. Lots of people will donate to them, and I am very exited about getting them to take Bitcoin.

I'll keep you updated.

Also, incase you didn't here, this is what Sean's Outpost has been squirreled away doing for the past few weeks...

http://bitcoinmagazine.com/6939/seans-outpost-announces-satoshi-forest/


Hope everyone is doing great.

Jason King
 




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An interview with the Virtual Doctors.

http://bitcoinwarrior.net/2013/09/bitcoin-africa-interview-virtual-doctor-project/

They are looking for places to buy computers and cameras with BTC so if the community has any pointers it would be welcomed.

The Virtual Doctor's BTC donation address is: 1G1zNwrLw7xQPWUvRierbg9wrkUCJ2Dort

I've been seriously considering forming a company to accommodate supply needs of Bitcoin accepting charities. Of course, I am concerned that there might be concerns since I am also involved with Bitcoin100. Someone not familiar with me might only see that I am part of an organization encouraging non-profits to accept BTC donations and simultaneously running a BTC business targeting non-profits.  Embarrassed

I guess what I'm saying is, I don't have any information regarding buying equipment in Africa for bitcoins but I may attempt to address this issue myself if the community doesn't see any moral ambiguity in it.
Edd, do as much good and provide as much help as you can in this world. Do not worry about how anyone else views it. Jason
legendary
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Bitcoin: An Idea Worth Spending
Bumped, to make sure more eyes read the latest and have the opportunity to vet the latest submission, namely PanPeru, of which I support. In fact, I just sent $20 USD worth from my BFL bribe money to show support. Since BitPay was used where new donation addresses are freshly created for each transaction, I guess I need to provide a link as proof: https://blockchain.info/tx/3349e3ddc0e289efd91423ef5c7e0cc012ba84a53d4760c68b2920b5d355c0c2
member
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Hello everyone,
I've recently started helping this non-profit since my mom holds a position and coordinates various fund raiser activities for PanPeru.  I mentioned bitcoin the idea of bitcoin and after several hours someone understood me.  Basically, I've been talking to Phinnaeus Gage these days regarding Bitcoin100 and I also did a presentation so that we could get Bitcoin introduced to the website.  We are also talking about introducing other donation methods since the only one in place was via bank in Peru.  2 days ago the website was different and very disorganized, I took my time yesterday to change the theme and organize it and helped to accept bitcoin donations via BitPay.
Feel free to research PanPeru.  It started in 2004 and constantly helps the people and children in Pampas Grande, Huaraz, Peru.
For anyone who would like to directly volunteer, please get in contact.  I believe once a year, we get a group of volunteer students from Richmond University who come to Peru and up to Pampas Grande located 3700meters (thats 12,140feet!)above sea level, to work in various projects.  An example of a past project was that the first public library was built and we filled it in with donated books.  If you have any questions, please feel free to give us a call on Monday GMT-5 from 9am~5pm
legendary
Activity: 1918
Merit: 1570
Bitcoin: An Idea Worth Spending
An interview with the Virtual Doctors.

http://bitcoinwarrior.net/2013/09/bitcoin-africa-interview-virtual-doctor-project/

They are looking for places to buy computers and cameras with BTC so if the community has any pointers it would be welcomed.

The Virtual Doctor's BTC donation address is: 1G1zNwrLw7xQPWUvRierbg9wrkUCJ2Dort

I've been seriously considering forming a company to accommodate supply needs of Bitcoin accepting charities. Of course, I am concerned that there might be concerns since I am also involved with Bitcoin100. Someone not familiar with me might only see that I am part of an organization encouraging non-profits to accept BTC donations and simultaneously running a BTC business targeting non-profits.  Embarrassed

I guess what I'm saying is, I don't have any information regarding buying equipment in Africa for bitcoins but I may attempt to address this issue myself if the community doesn't see any moral ambiguity in it.

That's exactly what I've been proposing in no uncertain terms as the next iteration for Bitcoin 100 or some other better named 501(c)3 org. There is a unique way to do it so that the staff is paid, the charities receive discounted supplies, and the suppliers are not selling their wares/services at a lost, garnering more sales in the interim.

As far as what's needed in Africa or elsewhere, a solution would manifest itself at such a time when need be.

.....................

For the pass couple days, I've been in conversation with Vicente via PMs regarding getting an NPO to accept bitcoin donations. Their name is PanPeru, and I just received a PM from Vicente that they just started (today) accepting bitcoins via BitPay as seen here: http://panperu.org/web/bitcoin/

They truly just put the Bitcoin donation option onto their site today (it wasn't there yesterday), and I've already vetted them via Whois and the WBM. Everybody, please feel free to conduct whatever research that's needed, to doubly make sure they pass muster. 48 hours should be enough time to make sure there's no anomalies of which I don't believe there are before Rassah does his magic if all is clear.
sr. member
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Let's Start a Cryptolution!!
Wow over 80 pages, I remember when this had just began, uneblieveable!! Such a good organization, with bitcoin anything is possible!!
edd
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An interview with the Virtual Doctors.

http://bitcoinwarrior.net/2013/09/bitcoin-africa-interview-virtual-doctor-project/

They are looking for places to buy computers and cameras with BTC so if the community has any pointers it would be welcomed.

The Virtual Doctor's BTC donation address is: 1G1zNwrLw7xQPWUvRierbg9wrkUCJ2Dort

I've been seriously considering forming a company to accommodate supply needs of Bitcoin accepting charities. Of course, I am concerned that there might be concerns since I am also involved with Bitcoin100. Someone not familiar with me might only see that I am part of an organization encouraging non-profits to accept BTC donations and simultaneously running a BTC business targeting non-profits.  Embarrassed

I guess what I'm saying is, I don't have any information regarding buying equipment in Africa for bitcoins but I may attempt to address this issue myself if the community doesn't see any moral ambiguity in it.
hero member
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BTC: the beginning of stake-based public resources
An interview with the Virtual Doctors.

http://bitcoinwarrior.net/2013/09/bitcoin-africa-interview-virtual-doctor-project/

They are looking for places to buy computers and cameras with BTC so if the community has any pointers it would be welcomed.

The Virtual Doctor's BTC donation address is: 1G1zNwrLw7xQPWUvRierbg9wrkUCJ2Dort
legendary
Activity: 1918
Merit: 1570
Bitcoin: An Idea Worth Spending
How about planting some trees and saving some lives? Smiley

http://www.treesforthefuture.org/about-us

They have one helluva FB page: https://www.facebook.com/TreesfortheFuture/likes

Overall, they look fine.
legendary
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Bitcoin: An Idea Worth Spending
*bump*

Just had a Skype call with Amy and Pradeep of the Primate Education Network. Their fiscal sponsor http://trustforconservationinnovation.org/ does the donation receiving and processing for them, and handles quite a few charities. Amy and Pradeep want to try to convince their sponsor to accept bitcoins, but mostly had some questions regarding legal issues and regulatory stuff. Like, whom would any financial disputes be handled with if they start taking bitcoin, etc. The chat went well, and they'll take all the information they discussed with me to the trust. They also asked if they could get KhanAcademy to talk to their trust to answer any questions regarding issues one might run into when accepting bitcoins as a charity. I send Khanacademy an e-mail asking if they would object to being contacted.

In the mean time, I know we're all busy with voting for me in the Bicoin Foundation elections (except for Jason you backstabing bastard  Grin), but we should probably give a yes or no to some of the charities we've been questioning recently. I'll take the loud silence is no objections I guess.

A Bitcoin donation option would look great on this page: http://trustforconservationinnovation.org/donate/index.php
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How about planting some trees and saving some lives? Smiley

http://www.treesforthefuture.org/about-us
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