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Topic: Bitcoin 100: Developed Specifically for Non-Profits - page 93. (Read 262769 times)

legendary
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Bitcoin: An Idea Worth Spending
Take a look at what has been donated, to date, to archive.org without the direct help of Bitcoin100: http://blockexplorer.com/address/17gN64BPHtxi4mEM3qWrxdwhieUvRq8R2r

Upon seeing that, a charitable organization would have a hard time saying 'no thanks' to having Bitcoin as a donation option embedded onto their respective websites. This is AWESOME (ain't that an awesome word?)!
sr. member
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I just sent a BTC to the vanity bitcoin address: 1BTC1oo1J3MEt5SFj74ZBcF2Mk97Aah4ac
legendary
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Bitcoin: An Idea Worth Spending
Before I address the most recent questions and concerns in my next post on this thread--providing the daily housecleaning service--I direct your attention towards another thread where I currently have a poll running pertaining to the archive.org issue: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitcoin100-archiveorg-54414

There, you can fully express your yeas and nays, opening up the debate in regards to Bitcoin100 donating the current wallet to archive.org.
donator
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I don't think the Bitcoin100 should be a free hand-out.  The two natural criteria seem to be:

1) The cause asking for funds is generally deemed worthy (most charities).
2) They add Bitcoin100 as an alternative donation method.

In this case, archive.org narrowly miss satisfying condition (2) due to the layout of their donations page.


I would agree, but I think people's idea of deemed worthy is drastically different and I hope it does not become too much of an issue here.  The way I look at it is my pledge of 1BTC is a minimum donation, more to Bitcoin than the charities themselves, as there are a few charities mentioned that I would not donate to outside of Bitcoin100.  The charities that I like more will get more from me separately. Like archive.org, which I sent 1 to already and will send more if/when they add a button directly to their donation page.
legendary
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I don't think the Bitcoin100 should be a free hand-out.  The two natural criteria seem to be:

1) The cause asking for funds is generally deemed worthy (most charities).
2) They add Bitcoin100 as an alternative donation method.

In this case, archive.org narrowly miss satisfying condition (2) due to the layout of their donations page.
sr. member
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Would it be practical to keep the list of charities that are newly bitcoin-accepting updated in the original post? (preferably with the date they started accepting)


This is a great idea.  It would be good to also include a link to the page on their site which displays their BTC address.
legendary
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Nice thread Bruno!
I'm one of those people who like to scrutinize each charity for specific properties. Mainly in my case..  strict secularity.
I'll be throwing what I can at some of these as they come on board.

Would it be practical to keep the list of charities that are newly bitcoin-accepting updated in the original post? (preferably with the date they started accepting)
sr. member
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Sent 1 from 14jsWFGUSFAHJbWfww3a5BpawQAwGU1aqZ
sr. member
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1CoinLabF5Avpp5kor41ngn7prTFMMHFVc
so how do I donate??  Do I just send to the charity's btc address?

You can send to the BTC address here http://www.archive.org/about/faqs.php#311

or there is a master BTC100 address in the original post.
sr. member
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1CoinLabF5Avpp5kor41ngn7prTFMMHFVc
If they added bitcoin donations without having first been contacted by the bitcoin100, cool, people can donate bitcoins. But the bitcoin100 money should not be sent, is should be reserved to be offered to organizations to encourage the to add bitcoin doantions. Perhaps on the bitcoin donation website you can add a page linking to places that accept bitcoin donations, and thus people who want to contribute can? Also you would link to all the organizations that added bitcoin donations because of our efforts, that way people can go back and contribute again to them later.

What is the situation you think should qualify a non-profit for the Bitcoin100? (Sorry, I am not sure what you mean because you have some typos).

My take on this is that we shouldn't use Bitcoin100 in situations like this. They didn't add the link because of us.
What is 'us'? I was under the impression that this was a diffuse gathering of donors, without the need for a central authority.  Because at least two Bitcoin100 members (Obsi and I) contributed to them adding the link. I think that is besides the point though, shouldn't we be encouraging all charities to accept bitcoin, regardless of whether someone from this forum has contacted them?  I don't think we need to bring pride into our charitable donations.

View this thread for chronology: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=53986.20
1. They posted to their blog, asking for donations
2. Several commenters ask if they can donate bitcoin/where to send it.
3. Obsi emails [email protected] to ask for BTC address, gets reply posts it
4. I emailed june, asking for her to post her BTC address on the donate page to be sure that it was Internet Archive's (Obsi probably replied similarly)
5. She put a link on the donate page to a BTC address in their FAQ.

I agree:
-It is not the best placement
-It is not as emotionally charged as donations to feed the needy

But, this is the first non-profit organization to accept bitcoin!  This is a big deal!

Internet Archive provides a great service to the digital community.  CoinLab already donated 10BTC.  Come on guys, let's at least bring the total up to 100. (it's at 65 at time of this post, 35 to go!)

sr. member
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so how do I donate??  Do I just send to the charity's btc address?
legendary
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My take on this is that we shouldn't use Bitcoin100 in situations like this. They didn't add the link because of us. The archive adding a donation link is a different project and I have separately pledged to donate to them. Let's not mix it with the Bitcoin100.

On another note I was extremely unhappy with the positioning of their Bitcoin donation link. It's not up there with the other donation methods, I would have never found it if I wasn't explicitly looking for it. Holding my donation until something is done about that.
legendary
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I'd be happy to have my 1BTC going to them, though I'd be inclined to send a bit more if they put a button on their donation page instead of burying the address in the FAQ.

+1

Though maybe it can work if we donate the current 60BTC amount first, then let them know there were objections to hiding the Bitcoin donation option behind a link, and tell them the rest of the 40BTC pledged will likely be donated after it's fixed?

-1
It was their decision to put it there, we shouldn't push it too much I think.

-1, with enough time they will put it where it belongs
legendary
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Then maybe we should do some of the work? Can someone please whip up a "Donate in Bitcoin" orange/brown rounded button similar to paypal for them to use? It will be a convenience for other charities going forward, too.
full member
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I'd be happy to have my 1BTC going to them, though I'd be inclined to send a bit more if they put a button on their donation page instead of burying the address in the FAQ.

+1

Though maybe it can work if we donate the current 60BTC amount first, then let them know there were objections to hiding the Bitcoin donation option behind a link, and tell them the rest of the 40BTC pledged will likely be donated after it's fixed?

-1
It was their decision to put it there, we shouldn't push it too much I think.
sr. member
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1CoinLabF5Avpp5kor41ngn7prTFMMHFVc
I'd be happy to have my 1BTC going to them, though I'd be inclined to send a bit more if they put a button on their donation page instead of burying the address in the FAQ.

+1

Though maybe it can work if we donate the current 60BTC amount first, then let them know there were objections to hiding the Bitcoin donation option behind a link, and tell them the rest of the 40BTC pledged will likely be donated after it's fixed?
I think this is a good plan of action.
sr. member
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I'll throw 1 into the pot now and pledge 1 more for at least 10 charities.
legendary
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I'd be happy to have my 1BTC going to them, though I'd be inclined to send a bit more if they put a button on their donation page instead of burying the address in the FAQ.

+1

Though maybe it can work if we donate the current 60BTC amount first, then let them know there were objections to hiding the Bitcoin donation option behind a link, and tell them the rest of the 40BTC pledged will likely be donated after it's fixed?
legendary
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Bitcoin: An Idea Worth Spending
I'd be happy to have my 1BTC going to them, though I'd be inclined to send a bit more if they put a button on their donation page instead of burying the address in the FAQ.

Good point about having the info in their FAQ page. I have stated in the other thread that I have honnored my pledge, regardless of where it's located, as a goodwill gesture for them taking the initiative for adding a Bitcoin donation option.
legendary
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Bitcoin: An Idea Worth Spending
From: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=53986.20
Internet Archive has added a link to their bitcoin address on their donate page:
http://www.archive.org/donate/index.php

In the bottom center of the page, there is a link "Our Bitcoin Address," which links to an anchor tag in the middle of their FAQ.

From http://www.archive.org/about/faqs.php#311 :
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Can I donate BitCoins?

Yes, please do. Our BitCoin address is: 17gN64BPHtxi4mEM3qWrxdwhieUvRq8R2r . Every bit helps.

Don't trust me though, copy their address off of their site yourself!

Thanks Internet Archive!

Now it's our turn. Let's fill their wallet!

CoinLab is sending our donation now.  Does this qualify as the first "official" Bitcoin100 charity?

WOW! I'm not able to answer that properly. I need help with this.

The following is my personal opinion and observation, only:

Clearly, this thread was started after the introduction of Bitcoin100: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/internet-archive-home-of-the-wayback-machine-accepting-bitcoin-donations-53986

It was started by Obsi. (does not matter whether Obsi is a supporter of Bitcoin100, or not)

Bitcoin100 was first mentioned in post #17:

I'm in for 1. I've used their site many of times. Will watch this thread and their site for confirmation of the address.


Maybe we need a project like the Bitcoin100 for non-charity projects like this, and wikipedia, and tor.  Or include them in the Bitcoin100?

That said, please discuss, because this may be an important issue.

~Bruno~
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