bitcoin and money laundering - page 3.

thriftshopping

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Quote from: LostDutchman on July 20, 2014, 04:00:19 PM

Quote from: PinkRanger on July 20, 2014, 01:24:12 PM

Quote from: LostDutchman on July 20, 2014, 12:14:52 PM

Quote from: 98problems on July 19, 2014, 10:23:47 PM

Quote from: BoxControl on July 18, 2014, 12:45:12 AM

Quote from: leezay on July 18, 2014, 12:42:11 AM

Getting harder to cash out large sum of bitcoin as all exchanges are now regulated.

Local Bitcoins then?

LBC sellers are technically suppose to comply with AML regulations, although many of them do not do so. You would probably need to sell over several trades if you wanted to cash out a large amount.

LBC users are in no way at all required to comply with AML regs any more than the seller of a used car is required to do so.

I have read news reports that LE has charged LBC sellers with AML violations when they sold to people who we're claiming to be using the bitcoin for illegal purposes

Fine.

Where's the beef?

Show us the links!

And please tell us just how a transaction which might appear to be illegal on it scae compares with a perfectly legal transaction between two ordinary citizens.

oh

It's "were" not "we're".

Wink

I have seen the report to. It was in Miami, this guy was charging 30%+ markup on trades to people. An undercover cop told the seller that he was going to use the bitcoin for illegal purposes and he was arrested for violating AML laws. I have also seen on the FinCen website that anyone who transmits any amount of financial instruments must follow AML laws.

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Quote from: PinkRanger on July 20, 2014, 01:24:12 PM

Quote from: LostDutchman on July 20, 2014, 12:14:52 PM

Quote from: 98problems on July 19, 2014, 10:23:47 PM

Quote from: BoxControl on July 18, 2014, 12:45:12 AM

Quote from: leezay on July 18, 2014, 12:42:11 AM

Getting harder to cash out large sum of bitcoin as all exchanges are now regulated.

Local Bitcoins then?

LBC sellers are technically suppose to comply with AML regulations, although many of them do not do so. You would probably need to sell over several trades if you wanted to cash out a large amount.

LBC users are in no way at all required to comply with AML regs any more than the seller of a used car is required to do so.

I have read news reports that LE has charged LBC sellers with AML violations when they sold to people who we're claiming to be using the bitcoin for illegal purposes

Fine.

Where's the beef?

Show us the links!

And please tell us just how a transaction which might appear to be illegal on it scae compares with a perfectly legal transaction between two ordinary citizens.

oh

It's "were" not "we're".

Wink

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Quote from: LostDutchman on July 20, 2014, 12:14:52 PM

Quote from: 98problems on July 19, 2014, 10:23:47 PM

Quote from: BoxControl on July 18, 2014, 12:45:12 AM

Quote from: leezay on July 18, 2014, 12:42:11 AM

Getting harder to cash out large sum of bitcoin as all exchanges are now regulated.

Local Bitcoins then?

LBC sellers are technically suppose to comply with AML regulations, although many of them do not do so. You would probably need to sell over several trades if you wanted to cash out a large amount.

LBC users are in no way at all required to comply with AML regs any more than the seller of a used car is required to do so.

I have read news reports that LE has charged LBC sellers with AML violations when they sold to people who we're claiming to be using the bitcoin for illegal purposes

LostDutchman

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Quote from: 98problems on July 19, 2014, 10:23:47 PM

Quote from: BoxControl on July 18, 2014, 12:45:12 AM

Quote from: leezay on July 18, 2014, 12:42:11 AM

Getting harder to cash out large sum of bitcoin as all exchanges are now regulated.

Local Bitcoins then?

LBC sellers are technically suppose to comply with AML regulations, although many of them do not do so. You would probably need to sell over several trades if you wanted to cash out a large amount.

LBC users are in no way at all required to comply with AML regs any more than the seller of a used car is required to do so.

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Quote from: BoxControl on July 18, 2014, 12:45:12 AM

Quote from: leezay on July 18, 2014, 12:42:11 AM

Getting harder to cash out large sum of bitcoin as all exchanges are now regulated.

Local Bitcoins then?

LBC sellers are technically suppose to comply with AML regulations, although many of them do not do so. You would probably need to sell over several trades if you wanted to cash out a large amount.

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Quote from: BoxControl on July 18, 2014, 12:45:12 AM

Quote from: leezay on July 18, 2014, 12:42:11 AM

Getting harder to cash out large sum of bitcoin as all exchanges are now regulated.

Local Bitcoins then?

Not that many localbitcoin buyer will carry large amount of cash to do on site trade. Risk of getting robbed is high also.

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emm... nothing is perfect, we just have to know how use them Grin

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@ leezay

There are several companies that advertise on the Internet that they will take your Bitcoin for gold.

Gold is the ONLY thing I have spent BTC on...

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Quote from: leezay on July 18, 2014, 12:42:11 AM

Getting harder to cash out large sum of bitcoin as all exchanges are now regulated.

Local Bitcoins then?

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Getting harder to cash out large sum of bitcoin as all exchanges are now regulated.

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Quote from: DannyElfman on July 10, 2014, 05:19:31 PM

Quote from: Erdogan on July 08, 2014, 10:03:58 PM

Re: bitcoin and money laundering

Money are never dirty, and can therefore not be laundered. Money are always divine.

This is not always true, as if you acquired money in an illegitimate manor, or if the specific money can link you to a specific crime, then it is considered to be "dirty"

Money acquired in an illegitimate manner is only "dirty", if it can be directly connected to the crime.

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Quote from: Erdogan on July 08, 2014, 10:03:58 PM

Re: bitcoin and money laundering

Money are never dirty, and can therefore not be laundered. Money are always divine.

This is not always true, as if you acquired money in an illegitimate manor, or if the specific money can link you to a specific crime, then it is considered to be "dirty"

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The black market would be more trades deemed wrong by people as a society

And this is true, as long as you understand that society is different than government. Government does not represent society. And is a separate entity.

Government seen as an association of free actors whose purpose is to solve prisoner's dilemma type of problem (which can only be solved by external observer) is good.
But, when those free actors are forbidden to dissociate this is coercion.

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Quote from: LostDutchman on July 08, 2014, 10:06:20 PM

Quote from: Erdogan on July 08, 2014, 10:03:58 PM

Re: bitcoin and money laundering

Money are never dirty, and can therefore not be laundered. Money are always divine.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8P80A8vy9I

Exacly, plus more than that. I came over this, Mike Maloney reads from Atlas Shrugged, the passage where d'Anconia opposes the meme that money is the root of all evil. Maloney gets tears in his eyes when he reads...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkivn_3zn5I

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Quote from: Erdogan on July 08, 2014, 10:03:58 PM

Re: bitcoin and money laundering

Money are never dirty, and can therefore not be laundered. Money are always divine.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8P80A8vy9I

Erdogan

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Re: bitcoin and money laundering

Money are never dirty, and can therefore not be laundered. Money are always divine.

LostDutchman

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Quote from: ShakyhandsBTCer on July 08, 2014, 05:32:29 PM

Quote from: LostDutchman on July 07, 2014, 07:02:28 AM

Quote from: enhu on July 07, 2014, 04:49:03 AM

but one can partially hide their money through bitcoin. An article lately that i've encounter was about bitcoin and divorce. Cheesy

Done carefully and properly, one could theoreticially hide ALL of one's bitcoin income from the prying eyes of government.

The same is true with fiat. However is this something that is really necessary to have to do?

I dinno.

With half the governments on the planet after your money, what do you think?

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It's Money 2.0| It’s gold for nerds | It's Bitcoin

Quote from: LostDutchman on July 07, 2014, 07:02:28 AM

Quote from: enhu on July 07, 2014, 04:49:03 AM

but one can partially hide their money through bitcoin. An article lately that i've encounter was about bitcoin and divorce. Cheesy

Done carefully and properly, one could theoreticially hide ALL of one's bitcoin income from the prying eyes of government.

The same is true with fiat. However is this something that is really necessary to have to do?

LostDutchman

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Quote from: LazerSMS on July 08, 2014, 03:54:01 PM

Quote from: Erdogan on July 08, 2014, 12:35:28 PM

Quote from: LazerSMS on July 07, 2014, 05:14:04 PM

I only use my coins for completely state approved stuff like buying services I don't need at boringsite.com, donating to the admin of boringblog.com etc.

I'm a good person

No, because...

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and then I pay taxes on it, on all of it

you give the bullies money

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and sometimes I even lose money doing that, but I don't care...

because I feel good then

You have been deluded into thinking self sacrifice is a virtue

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I love my Government and I'm sure the feeling is mutual Kiss

Think again.

of course it was a joke Grin

this is how the folk thinks, and it's ridiculous

Agreed and the more "regulation" the further undergoround crypto will be driven.

This is of course, as it should be.

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Quote from: Erdogan on July 08, 2014, 12:35:28 PM

Quote from: LazerSMS on July 07, 2014, 05:14:04 PM

I only use my coins for completely state approved stuff like buying services I don't need at boringsite.com, donating to the admin of boringblog.com etc.

I'm a good person

No, because...

Quote

and then I pay taxes on it, on all of it

you give the bullies money

Quote

and sometimes I even lose money doing that, but I don't care...

because I feel good then

You have been deluded into thinking self sacrifice is a virtue

Quote

I love my Government and I'm sure the feeling is mutual Kiss

Think again.

of course it was a joke Grin

this is how the folk thinks, and it's ridiculous

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