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Topic: Bitcoin ATM - Jeff Berwick (Dollar Vigilante) official withdrawal (Read 6788 times)

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Anybody have any idea how much a franchise or a unit cost if I wanted to place one here in Sandwich, IL?

I'd be interested to know, especially as they mention both franchising and straight up sale of the units.

I'm not liking the shit I'm finding via Google: https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/mbedit/kCLi2MD35YE

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Alec Liu    
Apr 2


"I've replied to the founder's email earlier today. The questionnaire he attached was very vague and didn't tell you anything concrete. As an investor (which he is seeking) you dont know how much he is accepting or what your expected ROI will be, nor does he provide with even an approximated cost if you wanted to be a franchisee. I am ALL about supporting this frontier, but I think we need a little more substance from bitcoinATM to establish what the plan is. Are some places like Cyprus better to start than here in the USA? As much as I'd like to own a few in my area here in the USA, I think there are more areas in need. Who will manufacture the machine? What is the cost for leasing? My point: how are there 30 orders when all he did was send out a brief questionnaire gauging interests with no detail about anything else? Just trying to be a realist here."
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On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 12:04 PM, Alec Liu <[email protected]> wrote:
did you catch him?

claims to have orders from 30+ countries already: http://www.businessinsider.com/cyprus-bitcoin-atm-guy-responds-2013-4

and that a real product already exists lolol
BI — "The Bitcoin ATM page is extremely vague and says it's seeking investors/partners, which means there's no actual product yet.”
JB — Yes, the page is a work in progress but just because we are seeking investors/partners doesn’t mean there is no actual product.  We have the product ready and we may actually install one asap in Los Angeles (where our operations are) just to show the world it works.  We are seeking investors to help fund our expansion as we are completely swamped with orders and interest and need to hire many people to keep up with demand.  We will be closing a first round of investment, like somewhere between $1-3 million in the next few weeks and already have more than that ready from serious investors.

This guy comes across as a serious investor and has trouble ascertaining what it's all about.

From the last paragraph sounds like a douche salesman scam...  Hurry your window is closing, tons of people are on the train already (that no one has serious info on) and its about to leave... get your money on the choo choo NOW!   oh btw... that train goes straight to my swiss account ha ha ha
legendary
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Bitcoin: An Idea Worth Spending
Anybody have any idea how much a franchise or a unit cost if I wanted to place one here in Sandwich, IL?

I'd be interested to know, especially as they mention both franchising and straight up sale of the units.

I'm not liking the shit I'm finding via Google: https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/mbedit/kCLi2MD35YE

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Alec Liu    
Apr 2


"I've replied to the founder's email earlier today. The questionnaire he attached was very vague and didn't tell you anything concrete. As an investor (which he is seeking) you dont know how much he is accepting or what your expected ROI will be, nor does he provide with even an approximated cost if you wanted to be a franchisee. I am ALL about supporting this frontier, but I think we need a little more substance from bitcoinATM to establish what the plan is. Are some places like Cyprus better to start than here in the USA? As much as I'd like to own a few in my area here in the USA, I think there are more areas in need. Who will manufacture the machine? What is the cost for leasing? My point: how are there 30 orders when all he did was send out a brief questionnaire gauging interests with no detail about anything else? Just trying to be a realist here."
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On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 12:04 PM, Alec Liu <[email protected]> wrote:
did you catch him?

claims to have orders from 30+ countries already: http://www.businessinsider.com/cyprus-bitcoin-atm-guy-responds-2013-4

and that a real product already exists lolol
BI — "The Bitcoin ATM page is extremely vague and says it's seeking investors/partners, which means there's no actual product yet.”
JB — Yes, the page is a work in progress but just because we are seeking investors/partners doesn’t mean there is no actual product.  We have the product ready and we may actually install one asap in Los Angeles (where our operations are) just to show the world it works.  We are seeking investors to help fund our expansion as we are completely swamped with orders and interest and need to hire many people to keep up with demand.  We will be closing a first round of investment, like somewhere between $1-3 million in the next few weeks and already have more than that ready from serious investors.

This guy comes across as a serious investor and has trouble ascertaining what it's all about.
legendary
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Anybody have any idea how much a franchise or a unit cost if I wanted to place one here in Sandwich, IL?

I'd be interested to know, especially as they mention both franchising and straight up sale of the units.
legendary
Activity: 1918
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Bitcoin: An Idea Worth Spending

did i hear that right? "1 dollar is worth about 100 bitcoins" lawl
lol ya!

1 cent / BTC 

BUY BUY BUY!

IT"S A TRAP! Sell, before it goes under a penny, for we no longer have the Canadian penny as a purchasing agent.

Anybody have any idea how much a franchise or a unit cost if I wanted to place one here in Sandwich, IL?
legendary
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Trusted Bitcoiner

did i hear that right? "1 dollar is worth about 100 bitcoins" lawl
lol ya!

1 cent / BTC 

BUY BUY BUY!
sr. member
Activity: 448
Merit: 250
this statement is false
legendary
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I let it trickle download while doing a few other things... Came back to see the dl stalled.  Actually it completed after downloading about 155 MB.  The time length however, compared to the stream does match up so maybe it's calling up a wrong file size?  Not sure.

I got it no problem.  Watched about half, but it was one of the most tedious things I've ever seen.  I basically did something else mostly before killing it.

I kept thinking of that Southpark "aaand, it's gone" episode whenever I envisioned actually feeding either money or BTC into the thing.

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I think the bigger issue here is just profit. There is nothing magical about an ATM for fiat <-> btc conversion, so the moment a competitor enters the space (of which there will be numerous), the profit margin will shrink and shrink. Yes there is a first mover advantage and the novelty factor, but this does bode well for long term investment and profit.
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Regulations, oh well. Who would have guessed. I always suspected Jeff was a bit of a loudmouth, but this thing just proves it.
Sticking his face all over the project he was merely doing some PR for? Publicly announcing a specific launch date without considering any legal implications? Abandoning the project worldwide because of US/EU issues?
donator
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Let's talk governance, lipstick, and pigs.
I really don't think that buying Bitcoins with cash needs to be regulated. It's buying cash with Bitcoin that will be. The latter is not really necessary in most cases.
legendary
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The revolution will be monetized!
I'm just watching. One day there will be bitcoin ATMs. Someone serious is going to develop a safe, cheap, and legal machine and make a fortune. I stand ready to provide capitol, but you are going to have to have a business plan that takes into account the regulation that will come. 
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Go back and read my posts after posts on how this was speculation and had so many hurdles.  Read where you called me (up 1600%) an idiot.  This guy got rich by pushing the price up (hello Mr Manipulator  Grin) and is probably selling off huge or sold back over $200 like I did.  Use your brain not your heart.  Buy low, sell high.  FFS.

All of you who lost money on this bullshit were robbed by this man.  Get your pitchforks and sharpen them.


false witness much?  i'll take facts over your conspiracy theory. i'd like to know just how many people invested just because of this "diabolical manipulator". Lulz

FACTS:

- They demonstrate a machine in Februrary.  The price there after starts going up like crazy all the way to $266, crashes to $55, bounces back to $170.
- Every time I ask about fundamentals permabulls go but but but BitcoinATM is REAL! and I say no it still hasn't passed gov regulation and there hasn't been one installed I can get on my jet and use anywhere on earth yet.
- New guy involved in Bitcoin ATM set to demonstrate yesterday is out of the project on the same day.  Price of bitcoin is now under $100 and falling.

Common sense much their chief?  Is this your first day or something, troll baiter much?
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Read what flavius wrote.  Flavius gave his friend a bitcoin address that had 0 bitcoins.  The friend then "withdrew" money from that address.

His friend did not steal bitcoins from flavius (or the ATM).  He stole dollars from the ATM.  No encryption was broken.

Something isn't quite right about what you're saying.

How did yoru friend withdraw BTC from your bitcoin wallet (to give the ATM in return for cash) if all he had was your public address?

The only way he could have sent the BTC is if he had full access to your wallet.
hero member
Activity: 854
Merit: 1000
Bitcoin: The People's Bailout
Don't forget Coinbase and Zig Gap

what's wrong with coinbase?


https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/coinbase-wont-send-me-my-btc-not-the-fraud-checking-155090

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/re-coinbase-warning-revisited-somewhat-resolved-147341

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/coinbase-available-155479

I also tried setting up an account with them myself, but was unable to, due to a glitch with their site.  I sent numerous e-mails to them over the course of two or three months to try and resolve the matter to no avail and finally had to just give up.
sr. member
Activity: 448
Merit: 250
this statement is false
Don't forget Coinbase and Zig Gap

what's wrong with coinbase?

and i dunno a successful withdrawal sounds like good news to me Grin
hero member
Activity: 854
Merit: 1000
Bitcoin: The People's Bailout
I must say that I am disappointed that Jeff did not look into the legalities of opening up an ATM within the US before going on the main stream media outlets and touting his plans to open BitcoinATM.

Now it makes him look stupid to the people who were watching his interview.

What is up with Bitcoin businesses and being half-assed?

BFL

Bitcoinica

MtGox

BitInstant

BitcoinATM

The Bitcoin Show

Bitcoin Magazine (early days)
+ Coinlab

Don't forget Coinbase and Zig Gap
hero member
Activity: 533
Merit: 500
I let it trickle download while doing a few other things... Came back to see the dl stalled.  Actually it completed after downloading about 155 MB.  The time length however, compared to the stream does match up so maybe it's calling up a wrong file size?  Not sure.
legendary
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Just managed to skip livestream registration, the video is directly available here : http://vod7.livestream.com//events/00000000001fa8ae/4c39b98e-c935-4384-b807-1e880f63ab6c_225.mp4



holy 2gigs.   i'd rather dl the blockchain again.  maybe someone can get it up on youtube?
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