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Topic: Bitcoin core value? - miners will switch to Bitcoin Classic - page 4. (Read 5765 times)

legendary
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Terminated.
Admitting that node count is irrelevant kills the biggest argument against increasing the blocksize Undecided
The number of nodes over a longer period of time is relevant. Node count as a metric used for 'debating' is irrelevant. You can't properly measure the actual number of nodes and the number can be faked. Your attempts at trolling won't work.

The bitcoin classic fork is an irresponsible attempt to seize power in the bitcoin world. It will fail.
Even if it is the right technical approach, they are going about it in the completely wrong way.
Exactly; Classic is already dead. However, their technical approach is actually among the worst proposed so far. People who are "contributing" (copy-paste code from Core) to Classic were not actively developing lately either.
full member
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I'm getting bored by those node proof images.
Nodes dont mean much as one can fire up amazon web services and launch 1000 nodes of bitcoin XT / classic or core for a nominal fee.
We all here know this.
Hashing power is what counts!

Admitting that node count is irrelevant kills the biggest argument against increasing the blocksize Undecided
legendary
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I'm getting bored by those node proof images.
Nodes dont mean much as one can fire up amazon web services and launch 1000 nodes of bitcoin XT / classic or core for a nominal fee.
We all here know this.
Hashing power is what counts!
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Bitcoin Classic is already dead, I don't understand how some people are still acting as if they are going to hardfork:
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Yo Girlfriend, Classic's bangin'!



https://coin.dance/nodes
brand new
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You misinterpret facts, creating the wave of hysteria.

No-one was said core disappear. Its said - CORE should improve they work style & Classic should improve their work style and habits also.


Bitcoin core will disappear in 1-2 months. What will happen with your coins? They will have NO value. The miners and exchangers will make the change overnight. Smiley

The big miners along with few exchangers (Bitstamp, Coinbase, BTC China, OKcoin = same shit) will switch it to Bitcoin Classic.

BitFury CIO Alex Petrov

""If the Bitcoin Core team doesn’t deliver [a solution] in time, we should force the process and that’s why we’re supporting classic. It’s not the best way, it’s painful, but we should do it.""

"It will be not easy to implement, but we can do it one month. This is why we are supporting Bitcoin Classic."



http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-miners-bitcoin-classic-scaling-debate-evolves/


So, prepare for the worst.
legendary
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Bitcoin Classic is already dead, I don't understand how some people are still acting as if they are going to hardfork:

http://www.coinfox.info/news/4781-bitcoin-classic-rejected-for-the-sake-of-segwit

Too bad the second trojan horse attempt didn't work. I wonder what the next name will be for Gavincoin 3.0. Bitcoin Unleashed? Sounds pretty good to me.
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hard forking a change to solve a problem that doesn't exist in a pointless rush on the say so of a corporate lobby when a superior soft forked development that facilitates deeper progress for the project as a whole is imminent simply doesn't compute

My thoughts exactly.

The bitcoin classic fork is an irresponsible attempt to seize power in the bitcoin world. It will fail.

Even if it is the right technical approach, they are going about it in the completely wrong way.

However it is not the right technical approach. SegWit is a much better approach to the TPM issue, and is in proper testing in the bitcoin-core test releases right now.

Stay away from bitcoin-classic.

I like Gavin but this attempt of his shows he has lost touch with reality and more importantly, lost touch with the community.
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What is wrong with Bitcoin Core? I am new here so..

currently blocks are limited to 1MB so the network can only handle 3-7 transactions per second.



that's it. it seems that Bitcoin was not made to be a payment system Smiley

It is a payment system. When the block size increases to 2MB in the short term, there will be less congestion.
legendary
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What is wrong with Bitcoin Core? I am new here so..

currently blocks are limited to 1MB so the network can only handle 3-7 transactions per second.



that's it. it seems that Bitcoin was not made to be a payment system Smiley
legendary
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it's a fighting for power. who to control the Bitcoin market. Smiley
legendary
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Twitter @realmicroguy


Saifedean Ammous is an economics professor: http://sb.lau.edu.lb/departments/economics/dr-saifedean-ammous.php
 

What does have to do with Bitcoin security?

I'm sorry you can't come to grips with reality. These tweets are all from the last 24 hours.

You probably don't want me to go back 3 or 4 days. Kiss
legendary
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Core dev leaves me neg feedback #abuse #political


Saifedean Ammous is an economics professor: http://sb.lau.edu.lb/departments/economics/dr-saifedean-ammous.php
 

What does have to do with Bitcoin security?
legendary
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you're just cherry picking negativity.

For a more meaningful discussion involving both Gavin and Peter...

https://np.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/426nee/ambitious_protocol_limits/



That's a hell of a lot of cherries!  Smiley

Except for Peter Todd, who are these other clowns?

Clowns?

Saifedean Ammous is an economics professor: http://sb.lau.edu.lb/departments/economics/dr-saifedean-ammous.php

David Francois is the CTO of European exchange Paymium: https://paymium.com/
legendary
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Core dev leaves me neg feedback #abuse #political
you're just cherry picking negativity.

For a more meaningful discussion involving both Gavin and Peter...

https://np.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/426nee/ambitious_protocol_limits/



That's a hell of a lot of cherries!  Smiley

Except for Peter Todd, who are these other clowns?
legendary
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you're just cherry picking negativity.

For a more meaningful discussion involving both Gavin and Peter...

https://np.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/426nee/ambitious_protocol_limits/



That's a hell of a lot of cherries!  Smiley
legendary
Activity: 1302
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Core dev leaves me neg feedback #abuse #political
you're just cherry picking negativity.

For a more meaningful discussion involving both Gavin and Peter...

https://np.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/426nee/ambitious_protocol_limits/

legendary
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I stand corrected. It does look like the alert-key holding, coinbase loving, Satoshi runneroffer, XT/Classic traitoring, Gigibyte-block-making 'developer' is winning widespread praise from his peers for his outstanding loyalty, honesty, and innovative coding genius!! Tongue

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https://twitter.com/petertoddbtc/status/691075744278024192





https://twitter.com/saifedean/status/691034309780729856





https://twitter.com/DecentOS/status/691070160132816897





https://twitter.com/BitcoinErrorLog/status/691069235389448192





https://twitter.com/davoutplantaire/status/690810640517193728




https://twitter.com/Rolmopz/status/690863448612298752


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These are honestly like the first few tweets I found. Got tried of copying and pasting.  
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Actual BTC are not in risk of dissappearing as they can fit in 2 MB blocks. Users are in a comfortable place IMO as they can choose whatever they like once it is developed, without risking their coins beforehand.

If the bitcoin classic come out in march before Core, and most people use that one. bitcoin will survive on that chain. For the people with their money in their own wallet, they will not lose money.

If bitcoin classic comes out in March, people will only switch to it if they have a reason.

Not that many do. I don't. And I actually really like Gavin.
legendary
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But Microguy's goats tell him what to say. True story.




J/k Microguy. Keep it real home-slice. Smiley
legendary
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What is wrong with Bitcoin Core? I am new here so..
bahhh


Facts for N00bs: No one is owned by anyone. Blockstream was founded by Greg and Adam. Gavin doesn't work for Coinbase but at MIT. Microguy has a goat farm.


Gavin was hired as an adviser to Coinbase in 2013.  When did that change?

It was not changed. It's still paid. It's not something bad to be paid and to earn a lot of money. It's OK but you cannot say after that , you are neutral Smiley
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