fungibility is not a boolean option of yes or no. its a sliding scale
In the strictest sense, bitcoin is not fungible since the holder of some bitcoin could be discriminated against based on that particular bitcoin's transaction history.
to be truly fungible, it has to be indistinguishable from any other bitcoin. and it's not.
no one cares about bitcoin not being "fungible enough" until it affects them. like when they go and deposit it into an exchange and the exchange freezes their deposit pending an investigation and possible involvement of law enforcement.
if you are depositing funds that are a 100% uxto from a stolen stash.
or every serial number of bank notes deposited at a bank are from a known bank robbery.. the % of suspicion is 100%
however there is a % /rating system of suspicion its not boolean...
there is a scale with thresholds.. whether its bitcoin or fiat
EG moving $10k of any denomination of funds across a border via hidden in a trunk of a car.. has a higher rating and above a certain threshold.. compared to
having it on your debit card when you travel abroad
compared to
moving $10k within a border to buy your fiancee that wedding ring she expects
..
also to note.about regulations and guidelines(yep you can research it):
just the slight suspicion of say 1% taint or 1 bank note of 100 bank notes being a serial number linked to a robbery, is not enough to freeze accounts. yes there are maybe some investigation going on behind the scenes after deposit at CEX/bank/business level.. . but they have to by regulation let the currency flow. and not tell you about investigation..
IF certain things meet a threshold, they SAR report it to authorities.. again while letting the currency flow..
IF authorities determine there is significance of a crime the authorities get a court order and then.. an account is frozen
try not to put your unlearned unresearched opinion of how things work to mean more than whats easily available to learn and research, factual process of how MSB's process funds and investigate.
.. people can "earn suspicion points the more they use a service where more and more deposits all have certain flaggable" traits until it meets certain thresholds.
heck i am not even a MSB but i have used them and in my own risk awareness of wanting to secure my value when using a CEX, i actually bothered to research how a CEX(msb) would handle my funds. by reading a CEX user agreement policy, terms and conditions and also the MSB guidelines/handbook of how they work internally with things like the SEC and FATF.. its all available via google. and so i use google and find source information when i want to learn something
regulators tell MSB's of certain thresholds they want to see to trigger a SAR and CEX(msb) create their own methodology to investigate things and rate things to see what meets those thresholds before filing such reports
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from a legal prospective. legacy has keys and signatures. thus in legal terms.. property law, privacy laws can apply if fought in court
recent transaction formats only have witness statements(scripts) and passphrases(access not ownership). so even saying your the witness/accessor doesnt mean your the owner/victim.
sorry franky i don't know enough about that topic to make a proper comment. but it doesn't sound right. there is always an owner to some bitcoin address. that's the person that has the ability to spend it
courts would probably think so too.
luckily luke used legacy so he can be owner/victim of theft. unlike those using new style formats
you mean like bech32? that's just a way of encoding a bitcoin private key into an address. no different than legacy really...
but to awaken people to such notions and possibilities and also awaken them to how things actually stand now legally.. needs educating people into the actual events of the past and present... and no, not the versions they read on social media version of events that did not occur the way the social media are presenting them
well what do you think about binance and their little busd unpegging story in the news? you think it was real or you believe what they say?
if you can see something in hard data thats about the source item EG you can see that busd unpegged by looking at actual charts and network data... then it did happen.. but if you are relying solely on social media and media in general, then you are not checking your sources, thus please check sources.
i dont use binance nor stablecoins. so i never checked your specific example nor cared to..
i dont know or care about CZ. my gripe is seeing the amount of people that dont think or dont research
(there is a game called chain of whispers which for humour was branded chinese whispers.. where someone whispers something to another person who whispers it to the next and so on.. where by the end, the message is completely different than the source... that is pretty much how social media works.. the message can get lost in translation in the media circles of each persons opinion of what they read, seen, heard)
its why i keep saying DYOR (do your own research) to people
but now prompted by you.. i just did have a look (today) and yes it appears that on 19th of march 2020 it did depeg temporarily beyond its 99.98% allowable threshold. to go down to 97%
and i checked by looking at chart data. not social media.. and it took me under 15 seconds to load the page and select the 'all' timeline and see the chart wiggles.. much faster than it would take to try finding some social media opinion about some tweet found somewhere that was linked somewhere in some topic on the forum.
i could then try googling the reason for the temporary event depeg. but im not interested in that. but i know i can.
if busd continued to be below a 99% amount for a lengthy period, and it started to affect the whole crypto ecosystem.. . then it would be more interesting to research. but small 1 day events are meaningless over all if they dont effect the ecosystem beyond that day, are not interesting and not worth thinking about 4 years later
so try checking sources and finding full context and content. and relevance
EG lukes actual tweets reveal he had coins on legacy addresses. so when sily people start talking about hardware wallets and passphrases.. they are not talking about actual events. they are saying shouldisms. but those shouldisms can only be true if luke first moved coin from legacy and chose to put his change destination to a HW wallet seeded address(my advice) however just using his node would have and did put lukes stash onto another legacy change address, meaning exposing his wallet(again i mentioned this). as seen by checking his previous spend events before the theft