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Topic: Bitcoin is environmental menace! BTC miners are carbon terrorists! (Read 1321 times)

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Polluting Bitcoin Mines Come to Rural Georgia

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In addition to the carbon emissions contributing to the climate crisis, Bitcoin mines are also very loud, often disturbing nearby residents. Due to the massive computing power used during the mining process, the computers generate substantial amounts of heat and must therefore be cooled to avoid damaging the equipment. Cooling systems often involve industrial-grade fans and air conditioning units that—when combined with the constant operation of mining rigs—result in persistent noise. The relentless hum of these machines can extend far beyond the confines of the mining facilities, unfortunately impacting surrounding neighborhoods.

Communities across the South have experienced this unexpected noisy intrusion into their daily lives, as residents from Arkansas to Tennessee report disruptions right outside their homes. For example, residents of Adel, Georgia have been plagued by nonstop noise from Bitcoin mines. The incessant drone of fans and machinery, often louder than the recommended cap of 70 decibels, goes beyond mere inconvenience: prolonged exposure to loud noise can have negative effects on people’s mental and physical well-being, interfering with sleep schedules, increasing stress levels, and contributing to long-term health issues like cardiovascular disease.

Many of CleanSpark’s facilities in Georgia operate with the same loud air-cooling processes. Thus, the Sandersville mine may bring disruptive noise to nearby residents, and students and faculty at the Oconee Fall Line Technical College, a local community college, that is less than half a mile away. CleanSpark’s Norcross mining site utilizes an immersion cooling system that cools computers through submersion in synthetic oil – a process that reduces the amount of energy used and decreases noise pollution by not relying on fans. Though a quieter and more efficient method, it has so far been limited to the smaller 20 MW site in Norcross.

As CleanSpark announces a planned expansion of the Sandersville site—a $145 million deal to double the fleet’s mining capacity for a “massive 150 MW expansion”—there could be more noise and disruption in store for residents.

https://www.greenpeace.org/usa/research/polluting-bitcoin-mines-come-to-rural-georgia/
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Electricity consumption of the bitcoin network since 2016 (annualized) and comparison with the electricity consumption of various countries in 2019. The upper and lower bounds (grey traces) are based on worst-case and best-case scenario assumptions, respectively. The red trace indicates an intermediate best-guess estimate.

1. Most of that energy comes from green sources.
2. Even the waste product of bitcoin mining, heat, can be used for heating homes during the winter.

There is no energy wasted in Bitcoin mining. What goes in, also goes out of the system.

You know, you could utilize those waste products too, but I think CoinGeek and co. are too ignorant to do anything with ESG.
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Electricity consumption of the bitcoin network since 2016 (annualized) and comparison with the electricity consumption of various countries in 2019. The upper and lower bounds (grey traces) are based on worst-case and best-case scenario assumptions, respectively. The red trace indicates an intermediate best-guess estimate.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitcoin
https://cbeci.org/
https://www.eia.gov/international/data/world/electricity/electricity-consumption
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OP I don't know why a toxic stupid idiot like you is still doing here in this forum. Your claims are a bunch of nonsense BS. What does it benefit you here? Wasting your time and energy as a keyboard warrior posting negative stuff about the unstoppable Bitcoin?

You can't change the whole world buddy. BTC can't be stopped no matter if it falls down several times whether in the financial or environmental side. It's unbeatable. Not even the governments and banks can stop or control it.
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BSV is shit
BTC is not shit

FTFY.

ShitVision only uses less energy because it's a completely worthless crapcoin, perpetuated by scummy criminals and no one in their right mind would touch it.  As such, it makes very little economic sense to waste any hashpower mining it.
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Why don't you look at your own carbon footprint and in particular observe how many BSV miners are running on non-renewables, and then take your garbage posts to Twitter.
BSV is green
BTC is not green

Feel the difference
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I hope you don't use a car nor ride a bus for your transportation. You must be riding a bicycle or a tesla on your regular transportation. However it's also made of materials that were mined using energy that emits high carbon. The future is green energy and bitcoin can also mined thru green energy. But even current bitcoin mining is still nothing and very small compared to huge carbon emissions from factories and daily activities like cars. 
The problem is that, even if you end up using your electric car, that means you are going to "charge" it instead of put oil in it, well if that electricity that you charge your car with comes from something bad for the environment then it's bad too, doesn't really have any difference at all with regular petrol cars.

This means it is not about using bitcoin, or using cars, or using anything, it is about where the electricity that we use comes from, no matter what we use it for. People think that bitcoin energy spending means bad thing, no, where that energy comes from makes it bad or good. I personally believe as long as we "ban" oil and freaking and what not, and put trillions and trillions from ALL nations into renewable, then we would be fine in just under 10 years.
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There are tons of comparisons between Bitcoin mining versus other day to day use, and the power consumption of Bitcoin mining is very VERY small in comparison, it's almost nothing.

Check this one for instance:





BitcoinSV maximalists are even trying?, at least come up with something that is not so easy to disprove with shitload of data and charts.



good chart.  now add in the fact that a ton of solar arrays are created specifically due to mining coins. the ratio is larger than the image

it the 79 is lower since maybe ⅓ is offset by new solar made for mining.
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There are tons of comparisons between Bitcoin mining versus other day to day use, and the power consumption of Bitcoin mining is very VERY small in comparison, it's almost nothing.

Check this one for instance:


Source:Bitcoinmagazine


BitcoinSV maximalists are even trying?, at least come up with something that is not so easy to disprove with shitload of data and charts.

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at op

Wtf are you talking about.

oil burning and coal burning  since 1900 has to be 999999 not btc and 1 btc.



btc does 220eh at 50 watts a th.

this is 220000000th x 50 = 1,100,000,000 watts an hour or 1,100 megawatts an hour.

about the same as 26,400 meagwatts a day

but world output is  25,000,000 mega watts a day

so btc is 1/1000 of the worlds power.

and of course you leave out that  from 1900 to 2009 btc burned 0


and you leave out how much mega watts in solar are funded by btc.

my partner fourm member buysolar and i have made 500 kwatts of solar arrays. they generate over 5 megawatts a day. buysolar has built 50 megawatts of arrays in NJ  Some of them like ours were fully financed by btc.

So lets say a minimum of 10 megawatts daily are being generated by us because of btc.

We are not a giant solar company. Just one of many in New Jersey.


New Jersey added 3800 mega watts  of solar last year.

A lot is because of btc. It is a big tool for getting solar built.

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Everything and everyone in this world evolve, so does bitcoin, there was a time when mining cost of Bitcoin was far lower than what is today. However as the cost of mining has soared. This debate has been in public space for quite some time. Firstly I think there is solution to every problem. Maybe Bitcoin too will move into proof of stake concept in future or something else. However for now we have to eat the cost. It's as simple as that. No ifs and buts..
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when compared to miners such as petroleum, coal and others who have been around for a long time, and Bitcoin miners who are only 1 decade old, the impact of damage to the earth caused by bitcoin mining is not much.
even though both of them caused mischief on this Earth
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It is not only Bitcoin that is an environmental menace. Everything that uses electricity is an environmental menace. But we need to develop sustainable energy that doesn't emit greenhouse emissions. This should be the goal. Not villianise Bitcoin for killing the environment.

But the fact that we are not pursuing sustainable energy - this is true. This needs to change.
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whatever other members' responses about bitcoin the OP will still deny it because he is a Craig Steven Wright cult group with Bitcoin SV which he says is the real Bitcoin. For some reason it always attacks bitcoin, even though Bitcoin SV was born from a bitcoin fork and uses the name "Bitcoin". This kind of FUD is intentionally made for the bitcoin community, but I don't think there's any point in making this kind of FUD, because everyone today is smart and can discern the hidden intentions and hidden goals of Craig Steven Wright's loyal followers.
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Few statistics on the environmental impact of Bitcoin mining
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Mining Bitcoin each year produces as much pollution as Greece created in 2019, the study found. A single Bitcoin transaction results in the same carbon footprint as a traveler flying from New York to Amsterdam.
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https://arcticportal.org/ap-library/news-list/2783-bitcoin-is-a-pollution-creating-mess

Why don't you look at your own carbon footprint and in particular observe how many BSV miners are running on non-renewables, and then take your garbage posts to Twitter.
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I hope you don't use a car nor ride a bus for your transportation. You must be riding a bicycle or a tesla on your regular transportation. However it's also made of materials that were mined using energy that emits high carbon. The future is green energy and bitcoin can also mined thru green energy. But even current bitcoin mining is still nothing and very small compared to huge carbon emissions from factories and daily activities like cars. 
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Few statistics on the environmental impact of Bitcoin mining
-Bitcoin uses more renewable energy than most countries

That's a positive characteristic, you gormless cretin.  It's good that we're using renewable sources of energy.  If you're going to talk FUD, at least do it right.   Roll Eyes

And you are clearly still envious of Bitcoin's energy use and resulting security, because no one wants to mine your worthless, collapsing fork-coin.  The only reason shit-vision does not use as much energy as Bitcoin is because it's a joke and no one's cares about it.  It's weak and insecure.  
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Bitcoin is a pollution-creating mess

Few statistics on the environmental impact of Bitcoin mining
-Bitcoin uses more renewable energy than most countries
-Bitcoin mining is currently estimated to account for about 0.5% of global electricity consumption
-Now Bitcoin has a carbon footprint equivalent to Greece
-Only seven mining companies own almost 80% of all computer power on the network
-Bitcoin mining currently uses 66 times more electricity than in 2015
-In 2009 the cost of mining took a few second’s worth of household electricity, in 2021 the cost was worth 9 years of household electricity
-A single Bitcoin transaction results in the same carbon footprint as a traveler flying from New York to Amsterdam.

In an article on CNN Business written by Jon Sarlin “Bitcoin is a pollution-creating mess”. Despite efforts to make the energy-intensive mining process friendlier to the environment, it has grown significantly more reliant on fossil fuels over the past year.

China's cryptocurrency mining ban in the spring of 2021 significantly worsened Bitcoin's environmental impact, according to a new research on mining published in Joule. It is because Bitcoin miners were tapping into a significant amount of Chinese hydropower which suddenly evaporated when China made mining illegal, said Alex de Vries, one of the study's authors and a researcher at the School of Business and Economics at the Vrije Universiteit Amsterdam.

So miners took their business elsewhere, including countries using significantly dirtier energy than China. Electricity sources powering the Bitcoin network were just 25.1% renewable in August 2021, nearly 17 percentage points lower than the 2020 average.

Mining Bitcoin each year produces as much pollution as Greece created in 2019, the study found. A single Bitcoin transaction results in the same carbon footprint as a traveler flying from New York to Amsterdam.

"After China banned Bitcoin mining, everyone was expecting it to become more green, but we are somewhat surprisingly seeing the opposite happening." said de Vries. "A lot of the hydropower these miners got previously in China has now been replaced with natural gas from the US."

Bitcoin mining is still booming in the United States. According to the study, many of the American Bitcoin mines are powered by natural gas and coal. Kentucky now offers subsidies to crypto miners, looking to attract business for the state's coal industry.

Kazakhstan has also become a destination for Bitcoin miners. According to the study, the country's electricity grid is reliant on hard coal, which is even more polluting than the coal used in China.

The hydropower behind China's Bitcoin mines was often held up by cryptocurrency advocates to rebut criticism about the technology's environmental impact.

In May, Coinbase — one of the largest cryptocurrency marketplaces — published a "fact check" citing China's hydroelectric plants in trying to undermine the idea Bitcoin contributed to climate change.

Coinbase did not respond to CNN's questions on whether it stood by its fact check in light of China's cryptocurrency crackdown, but said in a statement it believes "the industry is innovating at an encouraging pace to solve these challenges... Community-led change is possible and crypto can be part of the fight against climate change if we come together to solve these challenges."

What is Bitcoin Mining?
In short, Bitcoin mining is the process of creating, or ‘winning’, new Bitcoins by solving increasingly difficult mathematical puzzles - a process called proof-of-work (PoW). While at its beginnings these puzzles could be solved with normal computers (CPUs), Bitcoin’s creator, Satoshi Nakamoto, designed a system where over time, as competition for Bitcoin mining grew, the mathematical puzzles would become more difficult to solve. Therefore, over the past decade, as the price of Bitcoin - and the possible profit from mining them - has skyrocketed, better technology has become indispensable to solve these puzzles.

Miners now use specialised computers, called ASIC systems, that are much more efficient per attempt (or hash) of the puzzle - therefore increasing the likelihood of being the first to solve the puzzle and reaping the newly mined Bitcoin, but also increasing the amount of energy required to power these computers.

ASIC systems, although more energy efficient than normal computers, require more electricity since they are typically kept running incessantly, and also require energy to cool down the hardware to prevent from overheating, either with internal fans or with air conditioning.

How long does it take to mine one Bitcoin?
The answer to this question is not as straightforward as one might think as the procedure is becoming more complex and requires so much processing power.

However, there is a Bitcoin mining calculator called the NiceHash calculator that may help you better understand. It will not tell you directly how long it will take to mine 1 Bitcoin but there is an easy way to find out. Go to the calculator, select which mining rig you’re going to use and then increase the number of devices until you can see that you’re earning 1 Bitcoin per month.

For example, based on the current hash rate it would take fourteen S19 Pros to mine 1 Bitcoin per month. Or, put differently, one S19 Pro could mine 1 Bitcoin in 14 months (not accounting for a rise in hash rate over time).

This calculator is the easiest way to figure out how long it will take you to mine 1 Bitcoin.

https://arcticportal.org/ap-library/news-list/2783-bitcoin-is-a-pollution-creating-mess
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Bitcoin is still fulfilling its mission, today bitcoin is priced at $ 20k and bitcoin has dropped from $ 69k to $20k. I don't feel sad, you may have forgotten that btc has only been around for 13 years and was originally an asset worth less than $1 and each bitcoin is now worth more than $20k, it has grown several hundred thousand times and there is no asset in the world that ever did what bitcoin did.

Thank you for praying for a bitcoin price drop for giving me the opportunity to buy bitcoins cheap. I missed bitcoin at $1, $3k and now I want it lower so I don't have to regret it again.
this BTC ponzi trap is designed for fools like you exactly

Open your eyes. Bitcoin is dead
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Thank God bitcoin collapsing and stop polluting the planet

Long live the new world order

Era of bitcoin was gone

You just do your job, it's okay. Bitcoin is still fulfilling its mission, today bitcoin is priced at $ 20k and bitcoin has dropped from $ 69k to $20k. I don't feel sad, you may have forgotten that btc has only been around for 13 years and was originally an asset worth less than $1 and each bitcoin is now worth more than $20k, it has grown several hundred thousand times and there is no asset in the world that ever did what bitcoin did.

Thank you for praying for a bitcoin price drop for giving me the opportunity to buy bitcoins cheap. I missed bitcoin at $1, $3k and now I want it lower so I don't have to regret it again.
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