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November 13, 2016, 01:02:59 PM
It is not that easy. Yes, bitcoin gives us freedom from banks, governments and stuff. And yet in makes us its slaves in a way. Why? Because we are sort of bond to use it, because it can give us something which other money can't. And yet even if there are some disadvantages of Bitcoin, we tend to forgive them, because it is good in other ways.
in one sense we can say that bitcoin is freedom as you do not need a bank account to visit for depositing or withdrawal of your money or you do not need to convert your money in to local currency in which you are going to trade, bitcoin is a universal currency and can be used anywhere without converting it in any other type of currency.
Bitcoin is freedom but no question we still need banks. They are here to serve us so we need to take their services offered. Just be thankful that you have bitcoin and the bank as when we transact online the bank would not need to know and that's freedom for me.
It is really a freedom because you can now buy virtually any goods or services without been regulated so excessively as to delay or prohibit certain types of transaction you may want to conduct immmediately. I like the idea that bitcoin comes with all these freedom. A financial system with no restriction was not at all imaginable a decade back.
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November 12, 2016, 08:21:14 AM
Bitcoin brings us all Freedom

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https://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf - by Satoshi Nakamoto - The Bitcoin White Paper

https://bitcoin.org/ - Bitcoin.org - #1 Non Profit Home page for Bitcoin



A beginner's guide to bitcoin

http://www.coindesk.com/information/




 Bitcoin is Freedom
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 Bitcoin is Freedom from oppression, exploitation & tyranny by Banksters.


 From cradle to grave we have all been financial debt slaves through the debt based fiat currency schemes that should have long ago been outlawed.


 Bitcoin offers People an avenue of Safe Haven that assures a fiscally disciplined currency.

 Bitcoin is vastly superior to traditional fiat currency schemes.


 Bitcoin brings all Peoples Freedom by forcing Decentralized Monetary Competition, and by doing that it will eventually force governments to become fiscally disciplined with their monetary matters, or suffer monetary failures repeatedly until they do.


 Bitcoin will ultimately free governments from their Bankster Masters (each countries Central Bank) when governments finally re-learn to print and issue their own debt-free currencies, while abolishing their existing Central Banks powers and controls over them. This will hopefully occur as the present system fails and governments finally realize they hold all the cards, not the Banksters.



So simply put:



 Bitcoin is Freedom
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Theoreticaly the main bitcoin purpose is to liberate us from the banks and fiat currencies.

But the worldwide bitcoin market and community is so small,that banksters can easily control or

destroy bitcoin if they want.Done`t be too optimistic.
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November 12, 2016, 04:26:56 AM
It is not that easy. Yes, bitcoin gives us freedom from banks, governments and stuff. And yet in makes us its slaves in a way. Why? Because we are sort of bond to use it, because it can give us something which other money can't. And yet even if there are some disadvantages of Bitcoin, we tend to forgive them, because it is good in other ways.
in one sense we can say that bitcoin is freedom as you do not need a bank account to visit for depositing or withdrawal of your money or you do not need to convert your money in to local currency in which you are going to trade, bitcoin is a universal currency and can be used anywhere without converting it in any other type of currency.
Bitcoin is freedom but no question we still need banks. They are here to serve us so we need to take their services offered. Just be thankful that you have bitcoin and the bank as when we transact online the bank would not need to know and that's freedom for me.
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November 12, 2016, 04:06:57 AM
It is not that easy. Yes, bitcoin gives us freedom from banks, governments and stuff. And yet in makes us its slaves in a way. Why? Because we are sort of bond to use it, because it can give us something which other money can't. And yet even if there are some disadvantages of Bitcoin, we tend to forgive them, because it is good in other ways.
in one sense we can say that bitcoin is freedom as you do not need a bank account to visit for depositing or withdrawal of your money or you do not need to convert your money in to local currency in which you are going to trade, bitcoin is a universal currency and can be used anywhere without converting it in any other type of currency.
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November 11, 2016, 01:03:49 PM
I love it a lot when no one controls what you are doing with your own stuff. We own bitcoin and we can spend it as we wish to and there are no restrictions for it. Personally I prefer values and thus never use freedom for the sake of own pleasure on the cost of someone’s lockout. I have seen same values in this community and that’s why I still find myself connected with this great community and this great technology. Let’s take bitcoin to the new heights, let’s go to the moon.

Well who does not want freedom?  I think everyone can't deny the fact that it is annoying to have someone controlling you on what to do  especially when it comes to finance.  I hate the restrictions and rules that the government implement with the fiat currency so having bitcoin around simply let me get out of that chain the government force us to wear in order for them to dictate whatever they wanted with the current finance system.

Well we should not forget the fact that government can ban bitcoin and all other crypto currencies with just one circular since there are not many users as compared with the whole population on any particular country. Government can control fiat as they want but they cannot control or regulate bitcoin, they can just ban it.
Although goverment baned bitcoin, the users still can use it. Believe it or not, bitcoin users still can use bitcoin without any fear. They can use variou vpn, goverment can not trace the bitcoin transaction. This really proof that bitcoin is freedom. I agree that use our stuff without other people control is good.

There are some countries who banned bitcoin to their country but I think it is not implemented as those people from that country are still keeping their bitcoin and maybe without any use of vpn . And I think bitcoin is not actually banned to their country it is not just accepted for all transactions .
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November 11, 2016, 10:01:26 AM
It is not that easy. Yes, bitcoin gives us freedom from banks, governments and stuff. And yet in makes us its slaves in a way. Why? Because we are sort of bond to use it, because it can give us something which other money can't. And yet even if there are some disadvantages of Bitcoin, we tend to forgive them, because it is good in other ways.

You could just as well say that we are bound to live, have families, friends and things like that. Do such things make us slaves in a way? Obviously, they do because at large we are slaves of our nature, if you please. But with Bitcoin, you are free to choose whether to use it or not at least. And if you decide to use it, it is your free choice.
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November 11, 2016, 09:43:05 AM
It is not that easy. Yes, bitcoin gives us freedom from banks, governments and stuff. And yet in makes us its slaves in a way. Why? Because we are sort of bond to use it, because it can give us something which other money can't. And yet even if there are some disadvantages of Bitcoin, we tend to forgive them, because it is good in other ways.
That doesn't make any sense. You're bound to use bitcoin? Of course you would want to use bitcoin because it's a form of money and it's better than the others. Well, you can always choose not to use bitcoin. You're also bound to use fiat money, would you choose not to use it as well? You can always leave the bitcoin community if you feel like you're being enslaved by it.
I agree. I don't know why some felt that they are being enslaved by bitcoin.. though we can't blame since they have the right to say whatever they feel.. but for me, bitcoin changed me and my perception towards managing my money and I'm really thankful for that. Just saying though  Grin
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November 11, 2016, 07:49:27 AM
It is not that easy. Yes, bitcoin gives us freedom from banks, governments and stuff. And yet in makes us its slaves in a way. Why? Because we are sort of bond to use it, because it can give us something which other money can't. And yet even if there are some disadvantages of Bitcoin, we tend to forgive them, because it is good in other ways.
That doesn't make any sense. You're bound to use bitcoin? Of course you would want to use bitcoin because it's a form of money and it's better than the others. Well, you can always choose not to use bitcoin. You're also bound to use fiat money, would you choose not to use it as well? You can always leave the bitcoin community if you feel like you're being enslaved by it.
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November 11, 2016, 07:30:37 AM
I love it a lot when no one controls what you are doing with your own stuff. We own bitcoin and we can spend it as we wish to and there are no restrictions for it. Personally I prefer values and thus never use freedom for the sake of own pleasure on the cost of someone’s lockout. I have seen same values in this community and that’s why I still find myself connected with this great community and this great technology. Let’s take bitcoin to the new heights, let’s go to the moon.

Well who does not want freedom?  I think everyone can't deny the fact that it is annoying to have someone controlling you on what to do  especially when it comes to finance.  I hate the restrictions and rules that the government implement with the fiat currency so having bitcoin around simply let me get out of that chain the government force us to wear in order for them to dictate whatever they wanted with the current finance system.

Well we should not forget the fact that government can ban bitcoin and all other crypto currencies with just one circular since there are not many users as compared with the whole population on any particular country. Government can control fiat as they want but they cannot control or regulate bitcoin, they can just ban it.
Although goverment baned bitcoin, the users still can use it. Believe it or not, bitcoin users still can use bitcoin without any fear. They can use variou vpn, goverment can not trace the bitcoin transaction. This really proof that bitcoin is freedom. I agree that use our stuff without other people control is good.
Nah, government can ban bitcoin but will not totally ban it. Bitcoin will still exist but will lose it's popularity until new coins will come to replace it. Government does not want us to be anonymous as they want control over us and I hope time will not come government will think of doing it.
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November 11, 2016, 05:06:08 AM
I love it a lot when no one controls what you are doing with your own stuff. We own bitcoin and we can spend it as we wish to and there are no restrictions for it. Personally I prefer values and thus never use freedom for the sake of own pleasure on the cost of someone’s lockout. I have seen same values in this community and that’s why I still find myself connected with this great community and this great technology. Let’s take bitcoin to the new heights, let’s go to the moon.

Well who does not want freedom?  I think everyone can't deny the fact that it is annoying to have someone controlling you on what to do  especially when it comes to finance.  I hate the restrictions and rules that the government implement with the fiat currency so having bitcoin around simply let me get out of that chain the government force us to wear in order for them to dictate whatever they wanted with the current finance system.

Well we should not forget the fact that government can ban bitcoin and all other crypto currencies with just one circular since there are not many users as compared with the whole population on any particular country. Government can control fiat as they want but they cannot control or regulate bitcoin, they can just ban it.
Although goverment baned bitcoin, the users still can use it. Believe it or not, bitcoin users still can use bitcoin without any fear. They can use variou vpn, goverment can not trace the bitcoin transaction. This really proof that bitcoin is freedom. I agree that use our stuff without other people control is good.
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November 10, 2016, 02:28:21 PM
It is not that easy. Yes, bitcoin gives us freedom from banks, governments and stuff. And yet in makes us its slaves in a way. Why? Because we are sort of bond to use it, because it can give us something which other money can't. And yet even if there are some disadvantages of Bitcoin, we tend to forgive them, because it is good in other ways.
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November 10, 2016, 02:19:46 PM
Lack of control over bitcoin and the anonymity of the user opens a lot of possibilities, including any taxes. Thus all the same freedom of bitcoin is realized in contrast to real money.
Usually earning and saving bitcoin will not incur any taxes but when you are converting into fiats or spending bitcoin might attract taxes, so we cannot call bitcoin has lack of control and has full anonymity for any possible misuse. Bitcoin's freedom is just to have our own rights but definitely not against a country's regulations.
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November 10, 2016, 02:09:12 PM
I love it a lot when no one controls what you are doing with your own stuff. We own bitcoin and we can spend it as we wish to and there are no restrictions for it. Personally I prefer values and thus never use freedom for the sake of own pleasure on the cost of someone’s lockout. I have seen same values in this community and that’s why I still find myself connected with this great community and this great technology. Let’s take bitcoin to the new heights, let’s go to the moon.

Well who does not want freedom?  I think everyone can't deny the fact that it is annoying to have someone controlling you on what to do  especially when it comes to finance.  I hate the restrictions and rules that the government implement with the fiat currency so having bitcoin around simply let me get out of that chain the government force us to wear in order for them to dictate whatever they wanted with the current finance system.

Well we should not forget the fact that government can ban bitcoin and all other crypto currencies with just one circular since there are not many users as compared with the whole population on any particular country. Government can control fiat as they want but they cannot control or regulate bitcoin, they can just ban it.
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November 10, 2016, 02:07:05 PM
I love it a lot when no one controls what you are doing with your own stuff. We own bitcoin and we can spend it as we wish to and there are no restrictions for it. Personally I prefer values and thus never use freedom for the sake of own pleasure on the cost of someone’s lockout. I have seen same values in this community and that’s why I still find myself connected with this great community and this great technology. Let’s take bitcoin to the new heights, let’s go to the moon.
Lack of control over bitcoin and the anonymity of the user opens a lot of possibilities, including any taxes. Thus all the same freedom of bitcoin is realized in contrast to real money.
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November 10, 2016, 01:38:40 PM
I love it a lot when no one controls what you are doing with your own stuff. We own bitcoin and we can spend it as we wish to and there are no restrictions for it. Personally I prefer values and thus never use freedom for the sake of own pleasure on the cost of someone’s lockout. I have seen same values in this community and that’s why I still find myself connected with this great community and this great technology. Let’s take bitcoin to the new heights, let’s go to the moon.

Well who does not want freedom?  I think everyone can't deny the fact that it is annoying to have someone controlling you on what to do  especially when it comes to finance.  I hate the restrictions and rules that the government implement with the fiat currency so having bitcoin around simply let me get out of that chain the government force us to wear in order for them to dictate whatever they wanted with the current finance system.
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November 10, 2016, 01:28:06 PM
I love it a lot when no one controls what you are doing with your own stuff. We own bitcoin and we can spend it as we wish to and there are no restrictions for it. Personally I prefer values and thus never use freedom for the sake of own pleasure on the cost of someone’s lockout. I have seen same values in this community and that’s why I still find myself connected with this great community and this great technology. Let’s take bitcoin to the new heights, let’s go to the moon.
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November 10, 2016, 01:12:07 PM
   Nice arguments, all in all freedom is not in money, freedom is what we feel inside. I get that people here think that bitcoin will liberate us from banks, but I doubt in that. Everyone who live in real world need a bank account, if you are working in legal company they pay directly to bank account. When people cash out they go trough banks.
   I don`t think we will see freedom with bitcoins, its just an urban myth. Its money, and maybe bitcoin is decentralized now, but who made it, where its coming from, to many secrets. We shall see in the end I guess, until then we will earn bitcoins.

Though having bitcoins does not mean you should boycott having a bank account as i agree with you that we surely need banks until bitcoins become the currency of the world which people say it would become, but still i also feel that it somehow provides us a financial freedom because we can earn it online or buy it but we wont need to give it to someone else for keeping it as that is what we do with fiat.
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November 10, 2016, 01:09:15 PM
   Nice arguments, all in all freedom is not in money, freedom is what we feel inside. I get that people here think that bitcoin will liberate us from banks, but I doubt in that. Everyone who live in real world need a bank account, if you are working in legal company they pay directly to bank account. When people cash out they go trough banks.
   I don`t think we will see freedom with bitcoins, its just an urban myth. Its money, and maybe bitcoin is decentralized now, but who made it, where its coming from, to many secrets. We shall see in the end I guess, until then we will earn bitcoins.
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November 10, 2016, 01:02:12 PM

Bitcoin is very popular because of the freedom it can give us, there is not limitation and even in illegal activities we can use bitcoin to make it untraceable. The purpose of bitcoin will be defeated if we will allow it to have a limitation.

Yes and you can do any transaction or deals onlin as long as the other end accepts bitcoin. Thisis another opportunity the bitcoin holder can do. I remember before that it is very difficult to fund before your account, you need a credit card etc now, with bitcoin it is very convenient.
in term of using bitcoin as digital money and ruled by individual as you want make people comfortable and feel it was the real freedom in economy system , but you know it is useless if there is few people using bitcoin.

you might feel it is as freedom but are you sure it is recognized by general public?
When it comes to user comfort, there is need to take into account the fact that the majority of people because banks now have the possibility of buying a house or car. Of course de bitcoin such a possibility does not give if you do not gather up the required number of coins itself.
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November 10, 2016, 12:23:07 PM
Bitcoin is definitely a step in the right direction. It brings us financial freedom and that means that we are no longer in control of the central bankers and the big banks that are too big to fail.

A decentralized, digital payment system. That works great.
There was a time when banks have been very unhappy, but now their actions are not very happy. But they provide a large number of people to a different kind. No one is forcing to go to the bank and take a loan or paying a mortgage to live.
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