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Quote from: genos on October 29, 2016, 11:53:51 PM

Quote from: wutard on October 29, 2016, 10:53:37 AM

First of all I have no need to pay taxes on my work on earnings bitcoin. This is a fairly strong argument in favor of independence and freedom of action with bitcoin wallets.

And also bitcoin anonimity is give us freedom to do transaction every where without give our profile in the transaction. Tax and anonimity is the best of bitcoin beside the price that always rise. All people in the world have to use bitcoin.

I don't think bitcoin is that anonymous. I think the freedom og bitcoin is the decentralized peer to peer system. Government will have a hard time centralizing bitcoin because of its nature. About tax, the government can do something about it. So bitcoin transfer or conversion to fiat money can have tax if the government want to impose tax on it.

The government can find a lot of ways to tax Bitcoin if they ever wanted to. If we sought possible ways of doing just that, we might not even come close to what the government could potentially do. But because Bitcoin is not that big of a bird yet, they don't seem to be particularly interested in taxing Bitcoin specifically. Doing that might be prohibitively expansive for the tax agencies, for example, to go after every Bitcoin user for alleged tax evasion only to find out in the end that this particular user is from another corner of the world. The said basically means that if Bitcoin is to become a real pain in the ass, they will try to regulate it on a worldwide scale. So far we can enjoy the lack of true interest from the government.

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I do remember people complaints about paypal and ebay big fees, if those people moove into bitcoin system then can sell for the same ammount and stand with a bigger profit, something with fiat is being taked from the companies that helps to make the transactions.

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Quote from: ivan.daineko23 on October 25, 2016, 12:12:51 AM

Bitcoin is just object of investment. It will not solve all global economic problems and will not bring us more freedom than the electronic payment system. Yes, in some ways it is more convenient than the Fiat

I think bitcoin can solve and help economic world. In fact, bitcoin increase earning for peoples or campanies, for example is mining business, maybe use hardware with more than a million us dollars. Bitcoin also make peoples to transactions for easier and safe

Yes, there is ease of transaction and high profit potential associated with bitcoin business, this is applicable to both companies, families, students and individuals, yes almost to everyone. When they try set up any business with bitcoin option, bitcoin helps them succeed by finding new group of customers to them.

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It is. When we talk about free in transacting without being taxed that is still freedom. Yes we pay some transaction fees but those are just for miners payment. It is not that big for us to regret that amount.

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the main reason behind the the use of bitcoin is onky of its Freedom to use and do anything and in any amount .
we need only to pay only somes transaction charge which is worthless .

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Quote from: genos on October 29, 2016, 11:53:51 PM

Quote from: wutard on October 29, 2016, 10:53:37 AM

First of all I have no need to pay taxes on my work on earnings bitcoin. This is a fairly strong argument in favor of independence and freedom of action with bitcoin wallets.

And also bitcoin anonimity is give us freedom to do transaction every where without give our profile in the transaction. Tax and anonimity is the best of bitcoin beside the price that always rise. All people in the world have to use bitcoin.

you know nothing about anonymity,bitcoin itself doesn't actually have that feature,or people usually call it pseudo-anonymous,if bitcoin was anonymous then how the heck people can trace your transaction history if they know your address?

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Quote from: Indrawan77 on October 28, 2016, 09:04:30 PM

Bitcoin is one the greatest invention for human being, it is the the first currency that free from any interference, it is one currency that can't be control government, and it has a good value and can become a good investment, but i wonder how long until government try to regulate bitcoin

You are correct but on the hopes tha government would adopt bitcoin would surely not an easy thing to happen and there would be lots of things to be discussed first before bitcoin would be accepted legally by the government but it seems have a slim chance for me to happen because government dont like to those things that cant be able to control of and bitcoin is uncontrollable.

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Quote from: serjent05 on October 30, 2016, 01:57:53 AM

Quote from: genos on October 29, 2016, 11:53:51 PM

Quote from: wutard on October 29, 2016, 10:53:37 AM

First of all I have no need to pay taxes on my work on earnings bitcoin. This is a fairly strong argument in favor of independence and freedom of action with bitcoin wallets.

And also bitcoin anonimity is give us freedom to do transaction every where without give our profile in the transaction. Tax and anonimity is the best of bitcoin beside the price that always rise. All people in the world have to use bitcoin.

I don't think bitcoin is that anonymous. I think the freedom og bitcoin is the decentralized peer to peer system. Government will have a hard time centralizing bitcoin because of its nature. About tax, the government can do something about it. So bitcoin transfer or conversion to fiat money can have tax if the government want to impose tax on it.

Being anonymous is already included on the list though when we are talking about freedom because we have the freedom to hide our identities regarding on our transactions not on generalization but its still included and i do agree with you on your point that decentralized p2p transactions would be the main thing here because we have all the access and control of our money and i cant think that government would able to control bitcoin anytime soon.

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Quote from: genos on October 29, 2016, 11:53:51 PM

Quote from: wutard on October 29, 2016, 10:53:37 AM

First of all I have no need to pay taxes on my work on earnings bitcoin. This is a fairly strong argument in favor of independence and freedom of action with bitcoin wallets.

And also bitcoin anonimity is give us freedom to do transaction every where without give our profile in the transaction. Tax and anonimity is the best of bitcoin beside the price that always rise. All people in the world have to use bitcoin.

I don't think bitcoin is that anonymous. I think the freedom og bitcoin is the decentralized peer to peer system. Government will have a hard time centralizing bitcoin because of its nature. About tax, the government can do something about it. So bitcoin transfer or conversion to fiat money can have tax if the government want to impose tax on it.

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Quote from: wutard on October 29, 2016, 10:53:37 AM

First of all I have no need to pay taxes on my work on earnings bitcoin. This is a fairly strong argument in favor of independence and freedom of action with bitcoin wallets.

And also bitcoin anonimity is give us freedom to do transaction every where without give our profile in the transaction. Tax and anonimity is the best of bitcoin beside the price that always rise. All people in the world have to use bitcoin.

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Quote from: Sierra82fit on October 29, 2016, 04:44:12 PM

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Quote from: Indrawan77 on October 28, 2016, 09:04:30 PM

Bitcoin is one the greatest invention for human being, it is the the first currency that free from any interference, it is one currency that can't be control government, and it has a good value and can become a good investment, but i wonder how long until government try to regulate bitcoin

it's true that government can't control bitcoin and i think this is one of the best things from using bitcoin but to regulate bitcoin it all depend on the particular countries which give more pay attention to bitcoin but i think one of the best way to make government regulate bitcoin is if bitcoin popular in those country and people at there considers investing in bitcoin is valuable such as investing gold i think soon or late government will regulate bitcoin even though in my country this is will not happening in the near future because my government doesn't much pay attention for bitcoin

Do you think that the popularity of bitcoin will bring great benefit to mankind if there is no control? Maybe it is so. Here are just a bitcoin freedom can turn against the user.

Complete freedom poses big risk also because there is no control here and we can do whatever we want for our bitcoins including illegal things and when bitcoin will be more popular and we can achieve a massive adoption and that some people even think of making this as a mainstream currency, the risk are really big on that since illegal activities will be rampant.

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Quote from: hasiramasenju on October 29, 2016, 11:12:31 AM

Quote from: Indrawan77 on October 28, 2016, 09:04:30 PM

Bitcoin is one the greatest invention for human being, it is the the first currency that free from any interference, it is one currency that can't be control government, and it has a good value and can become a good investment, but i wonder how long until government try to regulate bitcoin

it's true that government can't control bitcoin and i think this is one of the best things from using bitcoin but to regulate bitcoin it all depend on the particular countries which give more pay attention to bitcoin but i think one of the best way to make government regulate bitcoin is if bitcoin popular in those country and people at there considers investing in bitcoin is valuable such as investing gold i think soon or late government will regulate bitcoin even though in my country this is will not happening in the near future because my government doesn't much pay attention for bitcoin

Do you think that the popularity of bitcoin will bring great benefit to mankind if there is no control? Maybe it is so. Here are just a bitcoin freedom can turn against the user.

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Quote from: Indrawan77 on October 28, 2016, 09:04:30 PM

Bitcoin is one the greatest invention for human being, it is the the first currency that free from any interference, it is one currency that can't be control government, and it has a good value and can become a good investment, but i wonder how long until government try to regulate bitcoin

it's true that government can't control bitcoin and i think this is one of the best things from using bitcoin but to regulate bitcoin it all depend on the particular countries which give more pay attention to bitcoin but i think one of the best way to make government regulate bitcoin is if bitcoin popular in those country and people at there considers investing in bitcoin is valuable such as investing gold i think soon or late government will regulate bitcoin even though in my country this is will not happening in the near future because my government doesn't much pay attention for bitcoin

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Quote from: Indrawan77 on October 28, 2016, 09:04:30 PM

Bitcoin is one the greatest invention for human being, it is the the first currency that free from any interference, it is one currency that can't be control government, and it has a good value and can become a good investment, but i wonder how long until government try to regulate bitcoin

I think government will surely try to regulate bitcoin but before that first they have to see which way they are going to regulate Bitcoin as a investment like gold or silver like precious metals or like properties. Or will it consider as currency.

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First of all I have no need to pay taxes on my work on earnings bitcoin. This is a fairly strong argument in favor of independence and freedom of action with bitcoin wallets.

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Quote from: Indrawan77 on October 28, 2016, 09:04:30 PM

Bitcoin is one the greatest invention for human being, it is the the first currency that free from any interference, it is one currency that can't be control government, and it has a good value and can become a good investment, but i wonder how long until government try to regulate bitcoin

If the time comes and will try to control the bitcoin, it is possible for one user the freedom to use bitcoin can no longer speak or even forget.

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Quote from: Indrawan77 on October 28, 2016, 09:04:30 PM

Bitcoin is one the greatest invention for human being, it is the the first currency that free from any interference, it is one currency that can't be control government, and it has a good value and can become a good investment, but i wonder how long until government try to regulate bitcoin

Thats the beauty of bitcoin which it really gives us freedom regarding on our assets and also government could not act and do things with it. We do have all the power and access on our money and no other than that. Regarding on online transactions is free us on high charge money remitance fees.

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Bitcoin is one the greatest invention for human being, it is the the first currency that free from any interference, it is one currency that can't be control government, and it has a good value and can become a good investment, but i wonder how long until government try to regulate bitcoin

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Bitcoin really freed us from some of the actions on currency exchange and payments. But he did not gave us absolute freedom. It has not always accept, sometimes difficult to pay Bitcoin

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Quote from: Milkduds on October 27, 2016, 03:15:29 PM

The frustrating issue about bitcoin is how many people do not understand this about bitcoin and push for regulation. We either have a mass that are dumber than I expected or we have a lot of effective fud going on here that is misleading folks into wanting a ruling syndicate over bitcoin. So which is it?

SInce Bitcoin isn't owned or really governed by any centralized entity, this is pretty normal that different people have different ideas on regulations regarding Bitcoin.

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