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benjamindees

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Quote from: maco on June 22, 2013, 09:06:11 PM

Did I miss the boat? This is something I want to be apart of..

Quote from: benjamindees on June 20, 2013, 11:38:42 AM

Since it seems the majority of those interested have little or no money, I have spent the last several weeks working to make Bitcoin Island more accessible. The logistics of settling an island are daunting, but with a little cooperation, some cost-effective technologies and hard work, it can be accomplished.

So I've created a new path to Bitcoin Island for those of you without 300 BTC. I'm still not sure how much it will be, exactly. Likely at least 100 BTC in total. The number of openings will be limited. And there will be lots of work involved as well. But, if you might be interested, the first step is to join us in participating in a boot camp to help test and develop the necessary technologies to make it happen:

Bitcoin Island Boot Camp

maco

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franky1

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ignoring the last paragraph of my last post and emphasising the questions above it

DO NOT TELL ME THE SECRET TECHNOLOGY

but please reveal:
1)who you are
2)what your knowledge is in these area's:
a)real estate
b)construction
c)utility companies
d)leadership skills
e)laws and permits required for a,b,c
f)laws and permits revolving around local eco-systems of an island (EG rare species protection)

do not answer/ignore the questions purely on the bases of me.. but on the bases of the whole community that may wish for a bitcoin island to actually exist

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Quote from: benjamindees on June 22, 2013, 02:49:02 AM

Unfortunately due to the number of investors promoting competing projects, there is a limit to what I can disclose on a public forum. I have said this already.

Quote from: benjamindees on April 23, 2013, 03:52:03 PM

I'm not here to give away business plans. I'm here to turn them into reality. That's why it has to remain secret.

But I am offering to demonstrate my knowledge and experience vis a vis Bitcoin Island, by inviting those who wish to learn more to come to Bitcoin Island Boot Camp.

With respect to Frank here, I have even offered to waive the fee for him, as long as he agrees to sign the NDA along with everyone else:

Quote from: benjamindees on June 20, 2013, 11:20:48 PM

If you can do that, and you are still interested in learning about my "knowledge and experience," then I'll invite you to sign a non-disclosure agreement and come to the Boot Camp and learn all about it. I'll even waive the 3 BTC admittance, just for you.

Hopefully he will consider this offer carefully, recognize just how irrelevant his questions are, and stop spamming the thread.

you waiving the fee for me does not make the request for answers any less relevant for anyone else.
you dont have to answer questions about your secret technology. just about your personal knowledge and experience in the area's required to make an island project work.

3 things an obvious ponzi/scam script requires.

1.a predefined large buy in fee with no clear description of what is being bought
2.a special technology / proven algorithm that is guaranteed to succeed
3.a NDA so that once you are in you cannot simply report to the police without risking a courtcase yourself

sound familiar??

benjamindees

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Unfortunately due to the number of investors promoting competing projects, there is a limit to what I can disclose on a public forum. I have said this already.

Quote from: benjamindees on April 23, 2013, 03:52:03 PM

I'm not here to give away business plans. I'm here to turn them into reality. That's why it has to remain secret.

But I am offering to demonstrate my knowledge and experience vis a vis Bitcoin Island, by inviting those who wish to learn more to come to Bitcoin Island Boot Camp.

With respect to Frank here, I have even offered to waive the fee for him, as long as he agrees to sign the NDA along with everyone else:

Quote from: benjamindees on June 20, 2013, 11:20:48 PM

If you can do that, and you are still interested in learning about my "knowledge and experience," then I'll invite you to sign a non-disclosure agreement and come to the Boot Camp and learn all about it. I'll even waive the 3 BTC admittance, just for you.

Hopefully he will consider this offer carefully, recognize just how irrelevant his questions are, and stop spamming the thread.

franky1

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Quote from: benjamindees on June 20, 2013, 10:54:18 PM

franky1,

I can assure you that my primary motivation is to give the half of potential Bitcoin Islanders without 300 BTC an opportunity not to have to deal with "investors" such as yourself.

again ignoring the knowledge and experience questions..

but to answer your point. by ANYONE giving you 300BTC they are investing into you.........................

so everyone wanting to buy into utopia is an investor.. just like people that buy homes.. its an investment into their future, even if they live in that home for 50 years

now please answer the questions for the benefit of all your future 3BTC -300BTC investors:
what is your knowledge and experience of these area's:
real estate
construction
utility companies
leadership skills
permits and laws related to the above listings

handing over money to strangers that want to remain strangers should only occur when illegal items are traded (ie silk road), yet i am not asking for your home address, social security number. i only request basic information about your knowledge and experience to make this project even viable

benjamindees

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franky1,

I can assure you that my primary motivation is to give the half of potential Bitcoin Islanders without 300 BTC an opportunity not to have to deal with "investors" such as yourself.

franky1

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Quote from: benjamindees on June 20, 2013, 11:38:42 AM

Since it seems the majority of those interested have little or no money, I have spent the last several weeks working to make Bitcoin Island more accessible. The logistics of settling an island are daunting, but with a little cooperation, some cost-effective technologies and hard work, it can be accomplished.

So I've created a new path to Bitcoin Island for those of you without 300 BTC. I'm still not sure how much it will be, exactly. Likely at least 100 BTC in total. The number of openings will be limited. And there will be lots of work involved as well. But, if you might be interested, the first step is to join us in participating in a boot camp to help test and develop the necessary technologies to make it happen:

Bitcoin Island Boot Camp

translation

because he cant con people for 300BTC in one go, he now only wants 3btc out of people. i have personally asked him on several occassions what his knowledge and experience is of these area's:
real estate
construction
utility companies
leadership skills
permits and laws related to the above listings

which can all be followed here:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitcoin-island-bootcamp-scam-238628

benjamindees

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Since it seems the majority of those interested have little or no money, I have spent the last several weeks working to make Bitcoin Island more accessible. The logistics of settling an island are daunting, but with a little cooperation, some cost-effective technologies and hard work, it can be accomplished.

So I've created a new path to Bitcoin Island for those of you without 300 BTC. I'm still not sure how much it will be, exactly. Likely at least 100 BTC in total. The number of openings will be limited. And there will be lots of work involved as well. But, if you might be interested, the first step is to join us in participating in a boot camp to help test and develop the necessary technologies to make it happen:

Bitcoin Island Boot Camp

TomUnderSea

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Quote from: tvbcof on June 07, 2013, 11:55:06 PM

Quote from: TomUnderSea on June 07, 2013, 02:25:34 PM

Quote from: BitAddict on April 22, 2013, 11:52:35 AM

First we're going to need girls. 1/10 or less girl population doesn't sound really good.

"Build it and they will come" suddenly has a seamy connotation.

I wouldn't hold your breath for real live women to come. Might I suggest inflatable women? That way if one needed to get off the island one could lash their harem together to fashion a raft...and as a bonus, have a way to kill time the long float.

I would expect real men to get inflatable sheep.

lophie

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Grats your island/city just went under $95 per BTC

tvbcof

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Quote from: TomUnderSea on June 07, 2013, 02:25:34 PM

Quote from: BitAddict on April 22, 2013, 11:52:35 AM

First we're going to need girls. 1/10 or less girl population doesn't sound really good.

"Build it and they will come" suddenly has a seamy connotation.

I wouldn't hold your breath for real live women to come. Might I suggest inflatable women? That way if one needed to get off the island one could lash their harem together to fashion a raft...and as a bonus, have a way to kill time the long float.

TomUnderSea

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Quote from: BitAddict on April 22, 2013, 11:52:35 AM

First we're going to need girls. 1/10 or less girl population doesn't sound really good.

"Build it and they will come" suddenly has a seamy connotation.

lophie

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And I thought this thread to be a rally encouraging people to offer services and goods strictly for bitcoins and at a discount, As well as encouraging people to spend the coins instead of selling them on the market and asking the bitcoin community about what they need to cashout of Bitcoin to buy so the community can try to provide them for coins directly instead, maybe at a discount as well.

sigh....

TomUnderSea

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Quote from: FinShaggy on May 28, 2013, 01:25:39 AM

I feel New Mexico would be the best place to start something like this for a few reasons:

1. Billy the Kid ran out the Illuminati by starting a war against the corrupt "Justice System" where the people were literally shooting at cops.

Don't you think the Illuminati might return if they see you building a community designed to overthrow them?

tvbcof

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Quote from: Anon136 on May 30, 2013, 05:53:34 AM

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though i do understand what you are saying and totally agree with the sentiment. it is the cornerstone of libertarian theory Grin

Although I've not studied it extensively, I find much to agree with in Libertarian theory (and plenty to disagree with as well, to be fair.)

My biggest issue is that I find theory and practice often diverge. Of course this is not unique to Libertarians, but it seems to me more pronounced with this group than with many others. It may well be an artifact of your being particularly keen to expound on theory however.

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Quote from: tvbcof on May 28, 2013, 01:35:08 PM

Quote from: Anon136 on May 28, 2013, 06:35:09 AM

Quote from: tvbcof on May 27, 2013, 09:31:40 PM

'your freedom to swing your fist stops where my nose starts.'

a) that isnt a definition
b) you cant use the word you are defining in its own definition

If you want more 'freedom' than that, you are being selfish to the extent that you'll likely be feeling a back-lash.

this statment is an admission that the scope of the definition of the word is greater than just situations where you are not imposing undue costs on other individuals =D

though i do understand what you are saying and totally agree with the sentiment. it is the cornerstone of libertarian theory Grin

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Quote from: tvbcof on May 28, 2013, 01:35:08 PM

I've got even less sympathy for religious or politically correct control freaks than I do Libertarians. These people have some psychological issues which materially impact the freedom of others.

Yay! Some common ground.

Alright. Since we agree that some citizens will try to use the state as a weapon of sorts against the rest of the people who just want to mind their own business, then it shouldn't be hard for you to accept the libertarian point of view.

Clearly a minority can get into, or bribe their way into a position of power in any "democratic" government that exists today, agreed?

Knowing that, can you at least agree that making the state smaller or less powerful is a way to protect the majority from unfair harm and loss of freedoms?

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Quote from: Anon136 on May 28, 2013, 06:35:09 AM

Quote from: tvbcof on May 27, 2013, 09:31:40 PM

'your freedom to swing your fist stops where my nose starts.'

a) that isnt a definition
b) you cant use the word you are defining in its own definition

Most people who are capable of independent philosophical thought will have no trouble understanding exactly what that statement means and mapping it to almost any real life scenario.

What it means is that I have no trouble with you taking any action (or in-action) you desire as long as it does not negatively effect others without their knowledge and consent. If you want more 'freedom' than that, you are being selfish to the extent that you'll likely be feeling a back-lash.

I've got even less sympathy for religious or politically correct control freaks than I do Libertarians. These people have some psychological issues which materially impact the freedom of others.

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Quote from: BTCLuke on May 27, 2013, 10:56:07 PM

Quote from: Anon136 on May 27, 2013, 08:22:03 PM

freedom: the ability to act without interference which would prevent or make more difficult the realization of ones goals.

tell me what do you think?

Not bad, but it says nothing about the fruit of your labors.

How can you be free if you're not allowed to keep your own property, such as things you bought and made?

It seems we are dealing with two different possible definitions. One is the more specific sense of having the freedom to do something and the other is to "be free" in general sense. the former is a very concrete and easily defined idea with clear boarders. the latter is a very nebulous and fuzzy idea subject to a great deal of interpretation depending on peoples constantly shifting preferences for the best tradeoffs for situations where peoples freedoms (in the specific sense) come into conflict.

So on the latter i could only give my opinion as to what that word means in that context and could make no claim to be "correct". But i would say it has something to do with living in a society which practices laws and customs which find the best trade off between maximizing total utility for a society as a whole and making sure that the benefits of this increase are not overly concentrated. private property, markets and non-aggression being good rules of thumb to achieving these ends.

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