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legendary
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Ruu \o/
January 27, 2014, 07:37:30 PM
It is not unusual that even experienced miners and forum members are taking great risks at times by sending money to companies as soon as possible in order to be first simply because that's the only chance they'll get at making a profit, for all ASIC mining is a loss game by design thanks to this self perpetuating phenomenon.
legendary
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LIR DEV
January 27, 2014, 07:28:16 PM
Gamer67....Mauiflipper said he got a reply from observer...  I didn't get the indication he was of any help.
last we talked a couple hours ago, he was working on getting info to interpool
member
Activity: 72
Merit: 10
January 27, 2014, 07:18:40 PM
Its called  "Gold Fever"    .........Ive been guilty of it several times . The problem is Ive been lucky and gained more monies then Ive lost , so I'm still partialy addicted to the chase.

Anyways its a good lesson to learn from , for all of us . At least we  hearing it from the guys who are living it now ..........just goes to show there are many hunters\lurkers delibretly laying traps for us all ...........I wish I could be of more help.

The war is never over is it ...............
sr. member
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Merit: 250
тσ ¢σιи σя иσт тσ ¢σιи?
January 27, 2014, 07:14:31 PM
Why would you send 44 BTC to a company thats not proven, that is just beyond insane

Some would even say unbelievable. I guess stranger things have happened though. I just hope the real perpetrators get caught whomever they may be.

Phoenix or Maui, any news back from The Observer ?


So far he is your best bet to get some results unless someone else steps up to the plate and spends an hour or two analyzing the blockchain.

 
sr. member
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January 27, 2014, 07:02:21 PM
Why would you send 44 BTC to a company thats not proven, that is just beyond insane
hero member
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January 27, 2014, 07:00:49 PM
legendary
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January 27, 2014, 06:47:52 PM
Perhaps we should concentrate on caching the scammers, so we don't have to fill the thread with posts that are just slowing us down by accusing the victoms of being the perpetrators and other idiotic comments.

Ignore the haters, but pay close attention to the sceptics. There are a lot around here, for very good reason. Now you really know why a lot of people give the hardware vendors a hard time. So often they fail and/or are purposefully scamming people.
member
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January 27, 2014, 06:47:00 PM
member
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January 27, 2014, 06:28:39 PM
hey it will be the start of your new career "gonzo journalist" bring video...when you find out it is a scam go to your local news organizratioin they would eat this stuff up especially when these guys refuse to go on camera or show product...

(i'll be able to say i made you a media news superstar ..pats self on back)

Searing
member
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January 27, 2014, 06:22:43 PM
Still thinks birdman and honolulu is in this scam together.
Look at the shady statements and do you guys really (really?!) think a experienced miner would send of 50BTC for "5Th miners" as a misstake?  Roll Eyes

Everybody makes misstakes and all that bullshit is not valid. They´re on this scam, and if you don´t see it then you need glasses.

if you're such a genius why don't you explain what's happen here.

you should find proof before accusing anyone as a scammer.  

there are many members here that have been using this forum for a good while and we all get to know one another and we all know phoenix pretty well and if you've got half a brain you wouldn't accuse anyone especially when only spending a couple week as a newbie on this forum.  Who's going to believe you anyway you're just wasting your time and making yourself look like a jerk.

PS. look at the top of the page and you'll probably see you've been logged on this forum a couple of days total.  
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Totally agree with you merv77

Some people just  dont have anything better to do . And since the mentality is just throw as much mud around , hoping some of it will stick. See this post as another bucket of water thrown to wash off the bullshit .

Phoenix is an honourable guy ( sometimes aggravating , I agree) but a good guy none the less .........and there are plenty of guys here that think so ............Ive personally known him for 3 years now ................lent him money , got it back .........did other deals ........some failed some suceeded ......Phoenix always  did what was right where I'm concerned

He can too excited at times and jump the gun to quick .........but which capitalist hasn't done that once or twice ..............I know I have

So lay off fellas ...................the Law of  Sowing and Reaping  has you in its sites and you may not like your reward .

Peace




newbie
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January 27, 2014, 06:18:44 PM
What my brother and I really need right now is some help from some block chain sleuthers to help us find companies that the scammers ordered from.

Phoenix
1898wZEAmekD4JFNDZSz5Kvm6xujwm1DLr (44.65 btc)
1FxU9V7Jac4EBv8YNshMCZdCkpmUw7X8LX  (7.14 btc)

Maui (Daryl)
1GzBFMvgrLYZRBVrjTV431pVDwT8CJM4Ed (8.9301 btc)
19Hbw5bwag6wjHGmHPvZ1zSPdjAY9GQHoo (8.8301 btc)

Perhaps 2 of us can take 1 of the four address and follow the transactions and make a spread sheet of where it all went?

Hmmmm.

Is their posting this info evidence that they aren't involved?

Why don't you two post pictures with today's paper so we can get after the real scumbags, if they aren't you?  This is the third time I've asked.  Your ignoring that request is very suspicious.

I have to say that I tend to agree that it is COMPLETELY unbelievable that an experienced member of this forum, with knowledge of all the scams in this industry, would send off that much money without the most basic verification of this company.  They claim they sent the money on the basis of two answering machine recordings, and a few other meaningless "data points".  They said they spent 2 days validating this company.  It took me literally 2 minutes to realize this was a scam.  (I take credit for calling it a scam first, BTW).

Their early posts are exactly what you would expect from the scammers.  Attacking people that called it a scam, calling them noobs.  Saying they did due dilligence and concluded this company was legit because there were so many "data points" showing it was legit.  Saying they spent lots of BTC on their products.

They finally admit it is a scam after the website is taken down, i.e. when pushing the scam no longer could benefit the scammers.

I hate to say it guys, but until we see Phoenix and Maui smiling with today's New York Times, you be fools to assume they are not criminals doing what criminals do.  Lie their asses off.

BTW, the fact that Maui is appaently one of those guys that supposedly buys a pre-order then tries to sell it on Ebay for a big markup (when there were supposedly tons of pre-orders remaining at the list price) puts him in the scammer category in any event, IMAO, and I'm not interesting in helping him recover his BTC.

So Phoenix, if that Avatar pic is you, why not post another to prove it is in fact you?   (From a criminal, expect a rant calling me a noob, or this post to be ignored like the last two.  From an innocent person, expect a pic).
member
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January 27, 2014, 06:03:44 PM
I just finished filing a complaint with the FBI.  Interpol does not deal directly with the public.  They deal with law enforcement agencies only.

I provided the FBI with all the data that this forum has uncovered so far.
member
Activity: 63
Merit: 10
January 27, 2014, 05:11:06 PM
What my brother and I really need right now is some help from some block chain sleuthers to help us find companies that the scammers ordered from.

Phoenix
1898wZEAmekD4JFNDZSz5Kvm6xujwm1DLr (44.65 btc)
1FxU9V7Jac4EBv8YNshMCZdCkpmUw7X8LX  (7.14 btc)

Maui (Daryl)
1GzBFMvgrLYZRBVrjTV431pVDwT8CJM4Ed (8.9301 btc)
19Hbw5bwag6wjHGmHPvZ1zSPdjAY9GQHoo (8.8301 btc)

Perhaps 2 of us can take 1 of the four address and follow the transactions and make a spread sheet of where it all went?
member
Activity: 63
Merit: 10
January 27, 2014, 04:57:00 PM
Perhaps we should concentrate on caching the scammers, so we don't have to fill the thread with posts that are just slowing us down by accusing the victoms of being the perpetrators and other idiotic comments.

My brother and I made a bad judgement call by not waiting to call CMS on Monday to get 100% confirmation.  We were also warned by many others that thought it was a scam. Some of you pointed and laughed. Maybe we needed some if that humble pie. However, I ask that you now please either help or get out of the way.

Between working on tracking the scammers and following this thread, it has become a full time job.  If you don't have something helpfull to offer, please please keep it to yourself.

I sincerely appreciate all of the help we have received so far, even from those who warned us.  
legendary
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LIR DEV
January 27, 2014, 04:38:43 PM
wwin...

i didnt realize that.. here it is..


I should have looked at it when you guys mentioned it....  but damn!
I'm calming myself now....   thank you for straightening me out calmly
I had cancelled the one for 8.9x btc because the coupon code was issued..lol
sr. member
Activity: 447
Merit: 250
January 27, 2014, 04:34:14 PM
thanks, If I can stop having to bat-back the noobs, I might actually get a minute to do so....!
We want to get as much info as quickly as possible to give authorities

Augusto Croppo is not a noob is he? I see he is a vip trusted hero member, who did most of the research here which later you and brother1 tried to take credit for and who has exactly the same questions that I have.
sr. member
Activity: 447
Merit: 250
January 27, 2014, 04:28:53 PM
yes they were, use the blockchain link I provided
what Bullshit!

heres even a bitstamp snippet of the transfers:

Now stop wasting our time please!
or are YOU involved in this rip-off scam? Determined here to side-rail the investigation?
Remember----YOU are the noob here...not me

well you never posted an order for 7.14, you posted 2 orders for 8+ that were the same and never paid, what happened to those?...as far as being a noob, yeah but I didn't fall for this obvious scam and would never have, which makes your allegation that you were scammed even less convincing, since you are quite knowledgable of the whole process.
legendary
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LIR DEV
January 27, 2014, 04:25:03 PM
thanks, If I can stop having to bat-back the noobs, I might actually get a minute to do so....!
We want to get as much info as quickly as possible to give authorities
member
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Merit: 10
January 27, 2014, 04:23:46 PM
Phoenix,

Don't know if you said this already, but have you contacted law enforcement? If you haven't already, you might take a look at Interpol as a resource (I don't really know that much about them, but you might give it a look).

http://www.interpol.int/Member-countries/Americas/United-States
http://www.interpol.int/Crime-areas/Cybercrime/Cybercrime
legendary
Activity: 938
Merit: 1000
LIR DEV
January 27, 2014, 04:16:02 PM
yes they were, use the blockchain link I provided
what Bullshit!

heres even a bitstamp snippet of the transfers:

Now stop wasting our time please!
or are YOU involved in this rip-off scam? Determined here to side-rail the investigation?
Remember----YOU are the noob here...not me
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