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wow Augusto...lol   "mmwin" just asked   "where is their fabrication plant you said?"
It shows Essex not only hosts CMS, but is big on microprocessor companies and the tech in general, including Intel

mmwin.... ROFL at that vid... loved that show

Ok, explain what you mean by providing the above links.

I not saying you are right or wrong in your conclusions. I'm just saying you are quick to jump to the conclusions.

here is a preview of the Skype call
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ria37d9mInY

wiki is editable by absolutely anyone, and that page is a very small percentage of the chip manufacturers
Here:
http://www.companiesintheuk.co.uk/ltd/cambridge-microprocessor-systems
btw... Intel manufactures in Essex as well
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&ved=0CDAQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.indeed.co.uk%2FIntel-Engineer-jobs-in-Mile-End-CO4&ei=KyfkUsvDAsHuoATUi4GwBA&usg=AFQjCNGZKi_q6PqKNosZPe8N7-SQQkcGyw&sig2=tZQyVv0E27qSmFgggXr0Jg&bvm=bv.59930103,d.cGU
and Essex has a literal microchip colledge.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&ved=0CC8QFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.essex.ac.uk%2Fcsee%2F&ei=aSfkUvoEiIaiBKX1gZAL&usg=AFQjCNF5tHMg62_z9AASq25tBf6sCsOj4Q&sig2=1fCxqDsR3WDudTu3f6D8jQ&bvm=bv.59930103,d.cGU

it sure is, it costs about $7,000 for each of these to be ignorant..
where is their fabrication plant you said?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_semiconductor_fabrication_plants

Touché.

Phoenix: Looks like he took your two lol's and raised you by two more.

Speaking as a cynic, I have to admit that whilst I think  every new company has to start somewhere, jumping into your first asic design with 20nm seems like technical and commercial suicide. It's still essentially a 'development' process with an awful lot of kinks to iron out. The NRE is horrendous, as is the wafer costs, and a small company is always going to go to the back of the wafer queue.

Aside from the very thin technical detail, which I would have thought would have been very prominent in the FAQ's, the power 'specification' of 1100 watts for 5TH seems rather suspect. 1100 watts at the wall translates to about 80% of that 'at the chip' as it goes through 2 voltage conversions, the first from 110/230v AC to 12-20V DC, then down to 0.7 or so volts. So 1100W for 5TH translates to an overall rating of 0.22W/TH (or 0.18W/TH at the chip)

Now that's not impossible to achieve, but not with a standard SHA256 gate based design, and since they don't seem to have any previous asic design experience I doubt they would try anything fancy. So the figure that would seem likely for this design would be 0.4W/GH at the chip, a factor of 2 times higher.

Perhaps they might want to explain how they have achieved what they have claimed. I know of a few answers that are valid, so I'm interested to hear what their response is.

Here's a little equation about power to consider:

Watts/Hash = Ng * Pg * F / (Nc * F) where:

Ng = number of gates switching per clock cycle - a design constant which depends upon the pipeline stage architecture
Pg = average switching power per gate per Mhz - a silicon process constant; about 0.4 nanowatts per Mhz for current 20nm processes
F = clock frequency (variable)
Nc = number of cores (pipelines) in the device; each core produces one result (hash) out of the pipeline every clock cycle, the pipeline latency is
       ignored as it's irrelevant in practice. So hashes = NC * F.

Or to simplify, P = Ng*Pg/Nc.  F cancels out, ie frequency is irrelevant. Static device power is also ignored here as it's relatively low in comparison.

In case you are not aware, I am living in London in the moment. So when I said I called during the working hours, it means I called during the UK working hours. The answer was an automated response asking me to leave a message. In case you also do not know, Saturday is also a working day in UK.

not if you call during business hours on a working day... it's 930pm there, and a weekend....lol
and you were just told otherwise, by someone who DID call, and reached someone.... moot, lol

That is moot. It is an automatic response with the voice of a person. It is impossible to determine if the person is real or not by merely hearing the voice. What really matter is for what purpose the telephone number is being used. By the way, I called the number during working hours and no real person answered the call. It was answered by an automated system with the voice of a (real or ficitional) person.

I wasn't referring to your brother, I referring to 'jointstarr' who's a newbie and said he's checking them out on Monday.

again no offence, but if jointstarr posted here something like "yes they are legit just because I seen them" without real evidence and pics, that's what I'd find difficult to trust.

CYPHER on the other hand as you also know has been on this forum longer than us and I'd trust his word before a newbie.  CYPHER did say he'd be up to visiting them and if I can remember well he said he's an hour away.  I would give him a tip if he did go, only because I think it's a waste of time.

If jointsarr does visit them, then please bring a camera (at least a mobile phone camera.. make sure it's fully charged) and take some indisputable pics and/or a video.

someone here who's got better knowledge of ASIC manufacturing than me should create a list of questions for him use while taking a video.

I hope they're legit for Phoenix's brother, but it doesn't look good so far.

CTSMiner_Rebecca is inactive, only 3 posts. Smells very fishy...

hahahaha...no silly... do I really need to answer that?  Call during business hours on monday, and someone will answer... !
Daryl also stated it was a person, not a recording, was my misunderstanding... you must have missed that post

here:

That same person answered both telephone numbers, both companies

Ignorance is bliss.

he'll be back later... and it will be answered...  he's at work atm

so you want them to video record a phone answering service?

So, please, show the evidence of your purchase. Let's see if you have balls of steel and if you walk the talk.

did you even read the thread? Doubtful mauiflipper will be repeating himself over & over