Topic: Bitcoin Miners - page 51. (Read 64046 times)

So, someone else in here, besides Mauiflipper & I, needs to call CMS, and verify over the phone with them, that CTS is in the building, and is indeed a sub.  Skype has a nice addon, where you can record the call. screencapture... video could be posted on youtube...   That would settle alot....
Any takers?  doubtful... it's so much easier to troll & bash blindly

Yeah, if they have any left. Don't want to risk missing out on this one ! This real 30yr old company only accepting payments in a secure non revokable payment method, not offering refunds unless they don't ship, with no pictures, no product development, just a bad cgi model of some box. But hey. The imaginary numbers look really good.

How stupid are you to send them money based on that?

What was the research that u did that made you want to buy? From all that i have seen all points to being a scam ? Also the parent company website that was listed was a really old looking page that only had like 26 views lol Must of wich from this forum lol ..

Nah, I know that. 100% sure it is a scam.

You are contradicting yourself here. So which is it. You did buy or you did not buy ?

If you could post the link to your recent KNC eBay sale that would also go a long way at proving your credibility. Up to you of course.


* my bad. I see that you say that you did buy. Seems like a real shot in the dark if you ask me but its your money. Still very curious about the KNC sale though

BTW they are pretty responsive at odd hours. I have exchanged some e-mail with them and it really doesn't seem like they would be living in UK timezone. Anyway pure speculation .

That's what I am trying to figure out: are they really that sophisticated to release it on Friday so nobody can actually verify anything.

Also, I do NOT recommend anyone to buy their products. I am still not 100% sure, just sure enough to buy myself.  There is no harm in waiting till Monday, if they have any left by then. But then again, if it some crazy elaborate scam, then maybe that is why they released on a Friday, which is a terrible day release.


Sheeze, now I know how Copernicus felt.  I am just showing you some evidence that the Earth may not be the center of the solar system and you guys are going ballistic on me for it.  I am just presenting my findings and telling you what I am doing.  Its just data.  Take it and do with it what you like.  If it's not enough for you, then don't risk it.

oh, ok, that's where I got confused...thanks

cheshyr..  used skype... and did.  try both companies..you will see. Daryl got thru first...hehe

You don't know that. You assume that.

It was not an automated voice.  It was the voice of a real person.

Am I looking wrong or does their address on google maps pull up a shed in a backyard of some garages?

ok, people.  I never said I "talked" to Rebecca.  Just a few emails.  My brother (phoenix1969) too.

Also, if you people read the earlier posts you can see that I DID call BOTH numbers from both company websites.  Same secretaries voice on both voicemail systems.  (It was the middle of the night there) I think it is legit which I why I spent some coin.  Too many data points add up for it to be a scam. BUT the only way we will know for sure is when someone goes down to their offices on Monday.  This will put a rest to the speculation once and for all.

In the interested of full disclosure: No, I am not a scammer employee working for them.  They did however send me a discount code for my validation efforts.  That was very kind of them.   I am sure some of you will figure out a way to turn this around and say "See, I told you so".  Well, go ahead, I have nothing to hide. My brother and I both live in Hawaii and I have never been to the UK.

Also, yes, I did sell my KNC units the day before CTS Miner announced their products.  No, I do NOT know that was going to happen.  Yes, I also thought it was a scam at first too.  BUT, then I actually did some homework and connected enough data points for me to believe they are legit. I did this BEFORE starting to bash them publicly for being a scam. Once I thought they were legit, I purchased two of their 5TH units (so far) because the numbers are just too good to pass up. 5TH for 1100 watts is industry leading efficiency.  THEN, I posted my validation findings and will continue to do so, whether it points to them being a scam or a legit company.  

Some of you are so vested in this being a scam, that you refuse to change your mind no matter where the evidence leads.  I also acknowledge, that now since I spent some BTC, I am now vested in this being legit as well.  BUT I am still not closing by mind to either possibility.  All evidence must be reviewed and analyzed.

I did the same for knc when everyone was crying scam.... now look at them.   I really don't care what your opinion of us is.  really.
Drawing conclusions on a WHIOS search without resolving the addresses, then using it as evidence is exactly the kind of idiocy that needs prevented. Daryl is a master at web development, with years and years of cutting edge dev experience, and has developed programs years ago that still sell for 5 grand a pop today. I cherish his help, you should too.

Bla bla bla. I cant really see how common sense has anything to do with being junior member. I have met many senior people that are idiots.

I just stated that it would be easier to ask some questions first and then draw conclusions rather than to first draw conclusions and then try to find proves to the conclusions. You could simply ask number of questions and have actually some data to perform analysis. The way things unfolded unfortunately doesn't allow me to ask questions because some senior members knew better.

I am not defending anybody, I am *not saying* they are not scam. I simply do not know that and I am unable to find out by asking questions because nobody knows anything.

he's my brother Merv, and we worked together all day plus 2 verifying them.... just sayin'

Thank you. The domain butterflyiab.com is not yet active, but I believe if it was there would be for malicious purposes.