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Topic: Bitcoin prices are controlled. Accidentally or intentionally? - page 4. (Read 2041 times)

hero member
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Of course it intentionally, the whales are aiming for profit the bigger the profit is better, that is why there are a lot of fud issues, and the real investors now are tired of their game, the price seems cant pierce the barrier, that is why there are less and less new investors and the price swing is more often
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The prices are completely controlled and manipulated by the worlds elite.  They print the money so they control the prices.  Pretty simple. 
hero member
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Most likely on the contrary, the price of bitcoin is controlled only by people who do not know what to do now, because everyone's opinion is divergent. Whales now do absolutely nothing.
If that was the case, this market would be a complete mess (more than it already is). The reason that this market isn't a mess is because of whales calculating their moves instead of impulsively acting like retail traders do.

Whales are just minding their own business and will do what they can to financially benefit from every possible market scenario. Pumps or dumps for them are as profitable, there is no difference.

With futures and other tools that they can use manipulation is more profitable than ever before. This is the reality we have to cope with till regulations are frightening enough to discourage large scale manipulation.

Yes, whales really are whales, they don't care who suffers from their actions.
It's all about business for them. So it's not that they are doing absolutely nothing.
They are always there, waiting for a good timing to attack and do their part.
They know what they are up to and you can't stop them.
You just need to be careful with your own investments. They don't care who they are hitting on.


A lot of gossip is circulating if bitcoin prices are controlled by the Whales, it might happen because in the bitcoin market, influencers do exist, prices on the market are influenced by many things and if the whales has a large capital, of course they can manipulate supply and demand, they can also make news and speculations
hero member
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Most likely on the contrary, the price of bitcoin is controlled only by people who do not know what to do now, because everyone's opinion is divergent. Whales now do absolutely nothing.
If that was the case, this market would be a complete mess (more than it already is). The reason that this market isn't a mess is because of whales calculating their moves instead of impulsively acting like retail traders do.

Whales are just minding their own business and will do what they can to financially benefit from every possible market scenario. Pumps or dumps for them are as profitable, there is no difference.

With futures and other tools that they can use manipulation is more profitable than ever before. This is the reality we have to cope with till regulations are frightening enough to discourage large scale manipulation.

Yes, whales really are whales, they don't care who suffers from their actions.
It's all about business for them. So it's not that they are doing absolutely nothing.
They are always there, waiting for a good timing to attack and do their part.
They know what they are up to and you can't stop them.
You just need to be careful with your own investments. They don't care who they are hitting on.

newbie
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Of course it was intentional.Everyone knows that money is power.What kind of paper or digital money then it does not matter!
member
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maybe bitcoin prices can be controlled because every year-end bitctoin prices always go up, it will probably be a tradition for its fore. although the bitcoin price is in control it will remain profitable for us.
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Trending is normal even if it is not control, because usually investors assume  that at the end of the year bitcoin price will getting high, so that's the time also most of them will hold and buy and of course there is what we called massive buying. Since  we are following the law supply and demand the demand get higher and the price also will get  up.
newbie
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maybe bitcoin prices can be controlled because every year-end bitctoin prices always go up, it will probably be a tradition for its fore. although the bitcoin price is in control it will remain profitable for us.
sr. member
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Accidentally is wrong term to me when you buy 0.1 btc at any price, you also control the price but the price also is controlled intentionally by some people or groups for sure.
uniquely the market is controlled by large whales. So it was, so it is and so it will be. The one who has large volumes of coins, can influence the pricing of I crypto currency. Although there are secret communities of users of crypto currencies, which practically set themselves a goal to change the situation on the market to their own advantage.

Not directly though. The demand gets pumped up from the large buys that BTC gets but it still has the property to be unstable itself. It is also global, so everyone can buy it therefore having a few pump in the demand to price. What sort of communities are you talking about? Those cooperatives having their own contributions to invest here in cryptocurrency? The pump and dump groups?
newbie
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I think that in the crypto industry nothing happens by accident. The prices for bitcoin and other top crypto currency are regulated by "whales". "Whales" themselves create exchanges to earn billions from the air.
legendary
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It's funny how stories about control of Bitcoin price appear in time when the price is low or falling. And no one is starting that subject when the price is high. So the conclusion is that people are trying to justify their loss somehow.
To me this is more like a conspiracy theory. Whales are influental but not that much to fuly control the price and the range of value. Just accept that Bitcoin is volatile and dependent on the market.
legendary
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That's how real hodlers seperate themselves from wannabees.

I noticed a quick mentality switch on social media from people after Charlie Lee's statement that people should at first invest in Bitcoin before anything else. At first I was kinda skeptical about his statement because he's not recommending his own coin to be bought first, but he seems to have a decent bit of influence. Where before people were avoiding Bitcoin they are now talking about how important it is to at least have some Bitcoins instead of none. This of course doesn't mean they will stick to their coins as firmly as we do, but at least it's a positive switch that starts to affect more and more people. Even locally I see people 'proudly' share that they have x percentage of Bitcoin. I like that.
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Accidentally is wrong term to me when you buy 0.1 btc at any price, you also control the price but the price also is controlled intentionally by some people or groups for sure.
uniquely the market is controlled by large whales. So it was, so it is and so it will be. The one who has large volumes of coins, can influence the pricing of I crypto currency. Although there are secret communities of users of crypto currencies, which practically set themselves a goal to change the situation on the market to their own advantage.
legendary
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There are clear boom and boost cycles in Bitcoin, they are useful to shed out all the noobs and leave only the strongest holders that know what they are dealing with. There's a lot of people holding Bitcoin that don't deserve to hold Bitcoin because they don't understand it, so these will be forced to panic sell. Governments and whales will keep stacking up on coins, then they will declare it world reserve currency and then the noobs that sold will complain that Bitcoin is controlled by a small elite.
Can't agree more. It's quite interesting to see how even the more senior members here haven't noticed how precious Bitcoin really is. Good thing however is that I gladly buy up their coins if they offer me that opportunity.

I definitely understand that people have bills to pay and other expenses that they couldn't have seen coming, but if all that doesn't apply and there is no reason to sell your coins, then simply don't.

There are so many fake hodlers out there stating to keep hodling till 2020 and whatnot, but as soon as the price goes down they are out. Everyone can hodl during an increase, only a few can do that during a decrease.

That's how real hodlers seperate themselves from wannabees.
full member
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Accidentally is wrong term to me when you buy 0.1 btc at any price, you also control the price but the price also is controlled intentionally by some people or groups for sure.
sr. member
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Bitcoin prices are controlled by demand and supply so it is accidentally change in every day. But peoples are said it is internally so both are possible in this platform.
All the countries are accepting Bitcoin it will legalized in entire world so that day it is completely controlled by internally. Otherwise is undetermined.
legendary
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When the market falls long term. The market has few new investors, the old investors are no as interested as before. Volume is very low. That makes the profit from exchange are reduced ( Huge whales are big exchages )
To compensate for the declining profit. The whales and the exchanges are linked together to control the margin. Currently, Margin has a large volume (Bitmex no.1 volume). That's why most of the time the bitcoin chart are U-shaped

No need to question it was being controlled intentionally as many of them play with the prices so they can gather a good amount of bitcoins in pumping and dumping. In Accidentally i more think on it as a nature or its a cycle that forms a series of charts that can be a basis from now and then which called as technical analysis.
legendary
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There are clear boom and boost cycles in Bitcoin, they are useful to shed out all the noobs and leave only the strongest holders that know what they are dealing with. There's a lot of people holding Bitcoin that don't deserve to hold Bitcoin because they don't understand it, so these will be forced to panic sell. Governments and whales will keep stacking up on coins, then they will declare it world reserve currency and then the noobs that sold will complain that Bitcoin is controlled by a small elite.
That is usually the idea normally and that is intentional. Whales play with emotional manipulation which they can easily read from the charts, they know when people are getting highly greedy and they know when they are getting panicky and so many people trying to avoid the market not knowing what is next and they take advantage of all that. It is a normal thing to see and most especially in a decentralized space, and trying to understand that helps.

When a new investor gets educated about the futures of bitcoin then he may go for investing into bitcoins wildly which may result in huge pumping and the vice versa also true. Intentional pumping are known as whales manipulation more frequently in crypto environments.
Accidental manipulations are common for any markets and we have nothing to do with them. But, intentional manipulations should be prevented but that is becoming a big challenge as crypto markets are basically unregulated markets hence whales find it as their playground.
newbie
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I guess there will be the possibilities of both accidentally and intentionally. When a new investor gets educated about the futures of bitcoin then he may go for investing into bitcoins wildly which may result in huge pumping and the vice versa also true. Intentional pumping are known as whales manipulation more frequently in crypto environments.
full member
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There are new players entering all the time. At this point in time last year there was no binance and now they are one of the biggest fish in the sea. Collaborations are therefore unlikely, but they might follow each other and play the same game
In my opinion there is no sector of life where big investors do not suck small investors. The same here in crypto world. Whales control the price intentionally and want to keep the big share for themselves. Most of the people withdraw their money due to manipulation. Why big investors controlled the price? This question is not answerable and we cannot solve this problem.
It is a thing no one can actually avoid but based on the question you asked on why they do, it is obvious it is for the benefit of making huge profit, otherwise what else would it have been?
All whales are practically greedy as they will keep wanting more, most especially when a market is highly speculative with bunch of weak hands, and they have the best position to drive the market the way they want, but in reality, who would be in such position and not act the way they do intentionally?
newbie
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There are new players entering all the time. At this point in time last year there was no binance and now they are one of the biggest fish in the sea. Collaborations are therefore unlikely, but they might follow each other and play the same game
In my opinion there is no sector of life where big investors do not suck small investors. The same here in crypto world. Whales control the price intentionally and want to keep the big share for themselves. Most of the people withdraw their money due to manipulation. Why big investors controlled the price? This question is not answerable and we cannot solve this problem.
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