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Topic: Bitcoin puzzle transaction ~32 BTC prize to who solves it - page 204. (Read 229769 times)

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I guess you are way off the map! 2 trillion keys? The actual number is 5 to 6 public keys in order to form 2 triangles and solve the key, more than that will confuse you, as it has confused me with a few million keys, I see hexadecimal characters wherever I look, after working on them for hours. Lol.

LOL, these hexadecimals do often come into my dreams and dancing around as well.
I sure didn't got your point of TRIANGLES. What I was referring to trillion thing is this.. Suppose we are searching the private key which is within bit range of 16:32. I made a list of initial 6 public keys like I have a file in which 1-6 public keys are stored. Now I subtract 16 from the puzzle public key. Suppose the hidden private key is 21. So when I subtract 16 from it the resulting key at the same position but in lower bit size. Now 21-16=5 and now I check whether this public key is in my file in which I saved initial public keys. So this is simple thing I am referring as 2 trillions... Can you explain your TRIANGLE THING?Huh??
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Lol. This dogecoin @digaran actually trying to solve 125 bits which is currently the most hardest puzzle ever with some weird incorrect math HAHA.

He doesn't know that he needs to bruteforce at least 63 bits for a CHANCE that he gets the correct key using algorithm. Idk how subtraction and Multiplication would help u in such large range address to solve it lol.

it make absolutely no sense. Even if the pub key is known.
Dogecoin, really? To know that my math is incorrect you have to know the correct math, how else could you determine it is incorrect?
But yes, LOL indeed 2^125 times.

All puzzles starts with "1". You can go through all keys, and subtract 2^N for each N-th key.
Maybe you mean they all start with 1 in binary code? Otherwise puzzle key ranges differ from one another.

Now you need to understand that amount of numbers or p.keys from 1 to 2^124 is equal to the amount between 2^124 : 2^125.

I do realize that, one needs to understand certain things before starting to work on these puzzles!
I guess you are way off the map! 2 trillion keys? The actual number is 5 to 6 public keys in order to form 2 triangles and solve the key, more than that will confuse you, as it has confused me with a few million keys, I see hexadecimal characters wherever I look, after working on them for hours. Lol.
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Can you tell me why is this happening? Ok, if I subtract this

Code:
02A1940074961CDF60CB2A0E7BC7157A7970B05469C58EEB5AD1C0462CE0C17811
from #125 puzzle, the result is :

Code:
02ed01ff219ed5c1afc12d991a82e3063ddcee1fd53b46f7cad52a0d87a7112aed

And if I subtract this
Code:
0290ad85b389d6b936463f9d0512678de208cc330b11307fffab7ac63e3fb04ed4
which is actually 2^124 public key, if I subtract it from #125 puzzle the result is :
Code:
03ed01ff219ed5c1afc12d991a82e3063ddcee1fd53b46f7cad52a0d87a7112aed

I know why this is happening though, because the first subtraction is actually inverse addition, the distance between the first public key and the second one is exactly the private key of #125.

This is why I'm stuck and can't solve this puzzle, and this is one of the easiest of puzzles since we know exactly it starts with a 1.
But I am close God willing, it should be solved soon.


Ohh boy you are 100% correct. The real problem is one can only do first subtraction and after all, it doesn't reduces its size. Why? let me explain.
The private key which we are looking for is between 2^124 : 2^125.
Now you need to understand that amount of numbers or p.keys from 1 to 2^124 is equal to the amount between 2^124 : 2^125.
So when we subtract 2^124 from the pubkey which is between 2^124 : 2^125, then we are actually making it fall between the range of 1 to 2^124.
Let me take you to a step further. If the puzzle private key is above the half in range 2^124 : 2^125, then you can do one more subtraction. You can further subtract 2^123 from previous subtraction result. That's it.
So far, I figured that to actually work with this subtraction thing, one need a data base of public key from 2 to 2 Trillion for that matter or more, and perform various models of subtraction from puzzle pub key and check if resulting pubkey is falling within that 2 to 2 trillion result. That's the best shot I've reached so far.
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This is why I'm stuck and can't solve this puzzle, and this is one of the easiest of puzzles since we know exactly it starts with a 1.
All puzzles starts with "1". You can go through all keys, and subtract 2^N for each N-th key.
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Lol. This dogecoin @digaran actually trying to solve 125 bits which is currently the most hardest puzzle ever with some weird incorrect math HAHA.

He doesn't know that he needs to bruteforce at least 63 bits for a CHANCE that he gets the correct key using algorithm. Idk how subtraction and Multiplication would help u in such large range address to solve it lol.

it make absolutely no sense. Even if the pub key is known.
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Ok let me explain, imagine #125 as number 750, if we subtract 500 (2^124, half of 2^125 or in our example 2^125 = 1000) if we subtract 500 from 750 we'd have 250, now all we have to do is to figure out what number is closest to our 250 (which we don't know it's exact value) and try to subtract that guessed number from our 1/3 of #125 puzzle, and the rest would be easy.
Guessing the right number is very hard. And you can always guess it wrong, subtract 800 from 750, and you will get -50. Then, assuming that your N is 1000000, you will try to break 999950, instead of trying to break 750. Also, as far as I know, people already start from some offset, so they are not trying to scan keys outside of that 500 to 1000 range, instead they just pick for example 550 to 560 range, and try to scan only that, and that alone takes a lot of time.

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Though if you could explain how to figure out which key is greater or smaller than the other, that would be awesome!
You cannot figure it out, based only on a single public key. It is always relative to the base point. For example, if you have (basePoint,yourPoint) pair, you could have "yourPointPrivKey" as some even number, for example 250. But it is only even in a relation between this particular base point! So, only "basePoint*250=yourPoint" gives you "250" as an even number. However, you could use (basePoint*2,yourPoint) pair instead, and then your private key would be odd, and equal to 125. See? Your private key is not universally assigned to your public key alone, it is always relative to your base point. And for that reason, if there would be any algorithm that could give you a private key, based on some public key, it would take at least a pair of public keys as arguments.

For the same reason, there is no such thing as "which key is greater or smaller than the other". ECDSA is working like a clock, you can give me some two public keys, and then I could calculate "(firstPubKey+secondPubKey)/2", and then say that the distance between my point, and any of your two points, is identical.
Can you tell me why is this happening? Ok, if I subtract this

Code:
02A1940074961CDF60CB2A0E7BC7157A7970B05469C58EEB5AD1C0462CE0C17811
from #125 puzzle, the result is :

Code:
02ed01ff219ed5c1afc12d991a82e3063ddcee1fd53b46f7cad52a0d87a7112aed

And if I subtract this
Code:
0290ad85b389d6b936463f9d0512678de208cc330b11307fffab7ac63e3fb04ed4
which is actually 2^124 public key, if I subtract it from #125 puzzle the result is :
Code:
03ed01ff219ed5c1afc12d991a82e3063ddcee1fd53b46f7cad52a0d87a7112aed

I know why this is happening though, because the first subtraction is actually inverse addition, the distance between the first public key and the second one is exactly the private key of #125.

This is why I'm stuck and can't solve this puzzle, and this is one of the easiest of puzzles since we know exactly it starts with a 1.
But I am close God willing, it should be solved soon.
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Ok let me explain, imagine #125 as number 750, if we subtract 500 (2^124, half of 2^125 or in our example 2^125 = 1000) if we subtract 500 from 750 we'd have 250, now all we have to do is to figure out what number is closest to our 250 (which we don't know it's exact value) and try to subtract that guessed number from our 1/3 of #125 puzzle, and the rest would be easy.
Guessing the right number is very hard. And you can always guess it wrong, subtract 800 from 750, and you will get -50. Then, assuming that your N is 1000000, you will try to break 999950, instead of trying to break 750. Also, as far as I know, people already start from some offset, so they are not trying to scan keys outside of that 500 to 1000 range, instead they just pick for example 550 to 560 range, and try to scan only that, and that alone takes a lot of time.

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Though if you could explain how to figure out which key is greater or smaller than the other, that would be awesome!
You cannot figure it out, based only on a single public key. It is always relative to the base point. For example, if you have (basePoint,yourPoint) pair, you could have "yourPointPrivKey" as some even number, for example 250. But it is only even in a relation between this particular base point! So, only "basePoint*250=yourPoint" gives you "250" as an even number. However, you could use (basePoint*2,yourPoint) pair instead, and then your private key would be odd, and equal to 125. See? Your private key is not universally assigned to your public key alone, it is always relative to your base point. And for that reason, if there would be any algorithm that could give you a private key, based on some public key, it would take at least a pair of public keys as arguments.

For the same reason, there is no such thing as "which key is greater or smaller than the other". ECDSA is working like a clock, you can give me some two public keys, and then I could calculate "(firstPubKey+secondPubKey)/2", and then say that the distance between my point, and any of your two points, is identical.
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BTC puzzle 66 :13zb1hQbWVsc2S7ZTZnP2G4undNNpdh5so
so far found :13zb18UKn2awwhpshZUjhLXZMcGbzC5soJ

the prefix and suffix nearly same

Do you have the private key for the so far found one? I would be interested in comparing it to something. Please and thank you.
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BTC puzzle 66 :13zb1hQbWVsc2S7ZTZnP2G4undNNpdh5so
so far found :13zb18UKn2awwhpshZUjhLXZMcGbzC5soJ

the prefix and suffix nearly same
And what is the relation between an address and a private key? There are trillions of trillions of addresses in 66 bit range, there could be millions of such addresses there, let me save you a few months of useless pursuit, stop looking for addresses, instead focus on subtracting from the known public keys to reduce their bit range.


Why do you guys think up to 120 have been solved every 5 puzzle apart? Because solving exposed public key puzzles is much more easier than brute forcing other ones.

I mean what else do you guys need? Just subtract 2^124 from the #125 public key and you'd have reduced 2/3 of #125 from it.


Ok let me explain, imagine #125 as number 750, if we subtract 500 (2^124, half of 2^125 or in our example 2^125 = 1000) if we subtract 500 from 750 we'd have 250, now all we have to do is to figure out what number is closest to our 250 (which we don't know it's exact value) and try to subtract that guessed number from our 1/3 of #125 puzzle, and the rest would be easy.

Focus only on subtraction, stop wasting your time on randomly searching for unknown keys! 😉

Good luck and happy hunting! 
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BTC puzzle 66 :13zb1hQbWVsc2S7ZTZnP2G4undNNpdh5so
so far found :13zb18UKn2awwhpshZUjhLXZMcGbzC5soJ

the prefix and suffix nearly same
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You had to spoil the fun right? This is a challenge and people should use their minds to figure things out.

Division is possible with any number, it's not limited to n/2, n/4 etc.

Though if you could explain how to figure out which key is greater or smaller than the other, that would be awesome! Lol.  Note that figuring that out is equal to the end of crypto currencies! 
Go big or don't go at all, right guys? 😉
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Introducing N/4, or 25% of the whole key range, this one and the N/2 are really interesting keys, dive deeper on these 2 keys my fellow hunters!
Division is as regular operation as multiplication. For example:
Code:
n=0=fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffebaaedce6af48a03bbfd25e8cd0364141
 n/1=0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001
-n/1=fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffebaaedce6af48a03bbfd25e8cd0364140
 n/1-n/1=0=n
 n/2=7fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff5d576e7357a4501ddfe92f46681b20a1
-n/2=7fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff5d576e7357a4501ddfe92f46681b20a0
 n/2-n/2=0=n
 n/3=aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa9d1c9e899ca306ad27fe1945de0242b81
-n/3=55555555555555555555555555555554e8e4f44ce51835693ff0ca2ef01215c0
 n/3-n/3=0=n
 n/4=bfffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff0c0325ad0376782ccfddc6e99c28b0f1
-n/4=3fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffaeabb739abd2280eeff497a3340d9050
 n/4-n/4=0=n
 n/5=66666666666666666666666666666665e445f1f5dfb6a67e4cba8c385348e6e7
-n/5=99999999999999999999999999999998d668eaf0cf91f9bd7317d2547ced5a5a
 n/5-n/5=0=n
Many times in ECDSA libraries you can find a function called "inversion", if you apply numbers like 2, 3, 4, 5, you will get 1/2, 1/3, 1/4, 1/5. And if you subtract them from n, then you will get -1/2, -1/3, -1/4, -1/5. No matter if you double a key, or halve a key, it can be always be done. If you halve the base point, you will get 1/2, you will never reach a point, where there will be any fractions.
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Hi sir iam run u r code getting error :/s/test $ python s.py
  0%|             | 0/1000000 [00:00Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/storage/emulated/0/Download/s/test/s.py", line 11, in
    ke = ice.privatekey_loop_h160(100,0,True,cc).hex()
         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
AttributeError: module 'secp256k1' has no attribute 'privatekey_loop_h160'

How to solve please give me a full code link


Not sure what your code has but you need these...

https://github.com/iceland2k14/secp256k1

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Wow, look what I found!
Code:
3fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffaeabb739abd2280eeff497a3340d9050

Introducing N/4, or 25% of the whole key range, this one and the N/2 are really interesting keys, dive deeper on these 2 keys my fellow hunters! 😉

Update on my breakthroughs, I have been trying to figure out if there is a way to know which key is greater or smaller than our target key! So far the damn EC behaves the same no matter if your key is bigger or smaller, the only difference is the X coordinate of the result, so if you subtract a smaller key from a bigger key, or vice versa, the result is the same only different Y coordinate.😅
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Hi sir iam run u r code getting error :/s/test $ python s.py
  0%|             | 0/1000000 [00:00Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/storage/emulated/0/Download/s/test/s.py", line 11, in
    ke = ice.privatekey_loop_h160(100,0,True,cc).hex()
         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
AttributeError: module 'secp256k1' has no attribute 'privatekey_loop_h160'

How to solve please give me a full code link
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I still believe that the creator took an hd wallet and changed its first digits with 0 and 1.

these are hd wallet derived by index (bip32), using entropy.


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Originl 70: 970436974005023690481
Decimal 75: 19818336659870969570189
Originl 75: 22538323240989823823367
Decimal 80: 1070216602658142492296751
Originl 80: 1105520030589234487939456
Decimal 85: 28918061492550812540570881
Originl 85: 21090315766411506144426920
Decimal 90: 798134881499778798873136435
Originl 90: 868012190417726402719548863
Decimal 95: 26144962425126869697884544486
Originl 95: 25525831956644113617013748212
Decimal 100: 809508007597539961826364531545
Originl 100: 868221233689326498340379183142
Decimal 105 : 32897135619974935743722754483920
Originl 105 : 29083230144918045706788529192435
Decimal 110 : 1001245503992611211121956953706390
Originl 110 : 1090246098153987172547740458951748
Decimal 115 : 31464149416297348611968226673317807
Originl 115 : 31464123230573852164273674364426950

Decimal 125: 41669139755449742373608350620324302327
hero member
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Bitcoin g33k
I bet that the author create his own algorithm to create those deterministic wallet.

+1, I think so, too
hero member
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I bet that the author create his own algorithm to create those deterministic wallet.
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what the author said was that he created a standard/deterministic  wallet with 256 addresses, exported private keys and padded them with 0 to fit them in the desired range
after that he imported the private keys, and funded the addresses.
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"If it is a Deterministic Wallet the creator must have done a huge code implementation just to create the transactions of this Puzzle"

Keys 1 to 160 are not one deterministic wallet. Perhaps (and indeed) the puzzle contains several deterministic wallets.
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