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Leandro,
Would you please state publicly what exposure to BTCST/pirateat40 (if any) your investment group involves?
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Hi Leandro,
1. Is Bitcoin Rain affiliated with your other business, the "Mercado Bitcoin" exchange (www.mercadobitcoin.com.br) in any way?
2. Are Bitcoin Rain investment funds co-mingled with those of Mercado Bitcoin in any way?
3. Does Bitcoin Rain trade on the Mercado Bitcoin exchange for any reason?
4. Does the CVM's closure of your Bitcoin Rain venture ("in Brazil") effect Mercado Bitcoin in any way?
5. Did the regulators give you any trouble with Mercado Bitcoin or do you expect to receive any additional scrutiny in the future?
Thanks for your answers!
1. Is Bitcoin Rain affiliated with your other business, the "Mercado Bitcoin" exchange (www.mercadobitcoin.com.br) in any way?
2. Are Bitcoin Rain investment funds co-mingled with those of Mercado Bitcoin in any way?
3. Does Bitcoin Rain trade on the Mercado Bitcoin exchange for any reason?
4. Does the CVM's closure of your Bitcoin Rain venture ("in Brazil") effect Mercado Bitcoin in any way?
5. Did the regulators give you any trouble with Mercado Bitcoin or do you expect to receive any additional scrutiny in the future?
Thanks for your answers!
Hi friend,
1. Is Bitcoin Rain affiliated with your other business, the "Mercado Bitcoin" exchange (www.mercadobitcoin.com.br) in any way?
No.
2. Are Bitcoin Rain investment funds co-mingled with those of Mercado Bitcoin in any way?
No.
3. Does Bitcoin Rain trade on the Mercado Bitcoin exchange for any reason?
No.
4. Does the CVM's closure of your Bitcoin Rain venture ("in Brazil") effect Mercado Bitcoin in any way?
No.
5. Did the regulators give you any trouble with Mercado Bitcoin or do you expect to receive any additional scrutiny in the future?
Nothing about Mercado Bitcoin.
Hugs.
L.
Hi Leandro,
1. Is Bitcoin Rain affiliated with your other business, the "Mercado Bitcoin" exchange (www.mercadobitcoin.com.br) in any way?
2. Are Bitcoin Rain investment funds co-mingled with those of Mercado Bitcoin in any way?
3. Does Bitcoin Rain trade on the Mercado Bitcoin exchange for any reason?
4. Does the CVM's closure of your Bitcoin Rain venture ("in Brazil") effect Mercado Bitcoin in any way?
5. Did the regulators give you any trouble with Mercado Bitcoin or do you expect to receive any additional scrutiny in the future?
Thanks for your answers!
1. Is Bitcoin Rain affiliated with your other business, the "Mercado Bitcoin" exchange (www.mercadobitcoin.com.br) in any way?
2. Are Bitcoin Rain investment funds co-mingled with those of Mercado Bitcoin in any way?
3. Does Bitcoin Rain trade on the Mercado Bitcoin exchange for any reason?
4. Does the CVM's closure of your Bitcoin Rain venture ("in Brazil") effect Mercado Bitcoin in any way?
5. Did the regulators give you any trouble with Mercado Bitcoin or do you expect to receive any additional scrutiny in the future?
Thanks for your answers!
So we have to wait until the 6 of august, damn!
Yep!
Sorry friend!
More tests needed!
L.
No problem, I can understand, and thanks for the updates amigo
So we have to wait until the 6 of august, damn!
Yep!
Sorry friend!
More tests needed!
L.
No problem, I can understand, and thanks for the updates amigo
So we have to wait until the 6 of august, damn!
Yep!
Sorry friend!
More tests needed!
L.
So we have to wait until the 6 of august, damn!
GREAT NEWS
4 days ago
i dont know if this affecting my investment
http://www.bitcoinmoney.com/post/28048708075/brazil-bitcoin-securities
4 days ago
i dont know if this affecting my investment
http://www.bitcoinmoney.com/post/28048708075/brazil-bitcoin-securities
Hi friend!
Dont worry. No effects.
L.
GREAT NEWS
4 days ago
i dont know if this affecting my investment
http://www.bitcoinmoney.com/post/28048708075/brazil-bitcoin-securities
4 days ago
i dont know if this affecting my investment
http://www.bitcoinmoney.com/post/28048708075/brazil-bitcoin-securities
I am so sick and tired of people calling scams with no evidence, with no proof and absolutely everything based on theories and their "all knowing" about scams. I don't get pissed off a lot but for fuck sake stop attacking Leandro, you pieces of shit. Unless you have some serious evidence against him then shut up and let people make their own decision if they want to invest with him or not. Leandro, is a really nice guy and I have invested with him from the start and he has always paid back fully.
Please stop this witch hunt!
//DeaDTerra
Please stop this witch hunt!
//DeaDTerra
Leandro "is a really nice guy" and pirateat40 has a "WoT rating". Leandro (like the rest of them) is a clear copy-cat.
And I am sick and tired of all these endless scams claiming to generate fantastical profits with no proof and zero evidence. No extraordinary evidence of their extraordinary profits, just a bunch of fanciful what-ifs and could-be's: money-laundering profits, coin-laundering profits, arbitrage profits, trading profits. Or interest paid by borrowers, but there are no borrowers! A duck is a duck and a spade is a spade.
All these "interest" and "insurance" programs are new, inspired by pirate's success, probably people who were doing e-gold and LR HYIPs jumping on the bitcoin bandwagon because that's where the growth is. These are a bunch of counter-productive scams. They aren't useful services which contribute to bitcoin and they don't increase the fundamental value, they hurt it!
Take this thread off of "Economics", start a "bitcoinhyipscam.com" forum, and go promote there!
Bitcoin Rain?! Don't be fooled. I'm happy for your if you take your gains before everyone else, but when you lose all your principal it won't even make me chuckle.
great to see another +1 on ppl on this forum that understand the basics of this scam
The more people who claim to arbitrage, the less likely any of them are making large profits. It shouldn't take that many people to drive arbitrage profits down to near zero. So I'd expect that arbitrage profits would be short-lived and in decline.
I'd expect that speculation would be zero-sum and often lose money. If Leandro is very lucky and/or talented and doesn't lose money on it, then one of the other people speculating will. I wouldn't expect that people who gamble, I mean speculate, with other people's money are any better at it than people who use their own money. However it isn't funny how we don't see any of these investment groups ever lose money? By contrast, investor genius Soros will lose money - and get a negative return for an entire year.
Now he might be able to make some money doing business in Brazil. However, I wouldn't expect the high returns he is providing.
I'd expect that speculation would be zero-sum and often lose money. If Leandro is very lucky and/or talented and doesn't lose money on it, then one of the other people speculating will. I wouldn't expect that people who gamble, I mean speculate, with other people's money are any better at it than people who use their own money. However it isn't funny how we don't see any of these investment groups ever lose money? By contrast, investor genius Soros will lose money - and get a negative return for an entire year.
Now he might be able to make some money doing business in Brazil. However, I wouldn't expect the high returns he is providing.
everything is paid out at the end of the month (including principal if you ask for it).
that's a conflicting statement.
you mean to say the principle is not paid out at the end of each month unless it is specifically requested.
since not everyone will withdraw at once, this does not give any defense that the investment fund still has the principal (original investment) of all investors that have no withdrawn. i'm not suggesting that this is what is happening, but you claiming that no withdrawals have been refused as a sort of assurance is a misleading assertion.
there is more than enough history where funds paid out like clockwork until the day they didn't.
WOW, I've been offline for a couple of days traveling and I just tuned in to all the drama! I've been investing with Leandro for months now and I couldn't be happier. All this ponzi talk is just nonsense - the returns differ from month to month, they are not guaranteed and everything is paid out at the end of the month (including principal if you ask for it). ! I don't understand why so many people on this forum cry scam and ponzi anytime someone is making a profit, even though the slightest shred of evidence is never presented. Why is it so hard to believe that someone is simply making some trades, arbitraging and/or doing local currency to BTC exchanges?!
If he pays out each round in full to members of this forum that is interesting.
We don't know if he is running any other schemes that could be used to pay this one off in full and then reinvest. If he did that, he'd never have to pay off everyone in full at the same time. That wouldn't make it a Ponzi but it would be a scan and unlikely to last longer than a couple years.
He has lower interest rates than Pirate - so it is likely to last longer (if it is a scam).
There is no evidence of any business model other than his undocumented claims. Combine that with very high rates of return that are always positive and you have me highly skeptical. It's like Bernie Madoff - he never lost money even when the market was down. I hope everyone has read the EVE story in my sig.
Finally, it is harder for us English speakers to know so much about him as he works in Brazil and is primarily active in Portuguese.
We don't know if he is running any other schemes that could be used to pay this one off in full and then reinvest. If he did that, he'd never have to pay off everyone in full at the same time. That wouldn't make it a Ponzi but it would be a scan and unlikely to last longer than a couple years.
He has lower interest rates than Pirate - so it is likely to last longer (if it is a scam).
There is no evidence of any business model other than his undocumented claims. Combine that with very high rates of return that are always positive and you have me highly skeptical. It's like Bernie Madoff - he never lost money even when the market was down. I hope everyone has read the EVE story in my sig.
Finally, it is harder for us English speakers to know so much about him as he works in Brazil and is primarily active in Portuguese.
I am so sick and tired of people calling scams with no evidence, with no proof and absolutely everything based on theories and their "all knowing" about scams. I don't get pissed off a lot but for fuck sake stop attacking Leandro, you pieces of shit. Unless you have some serious evidence against him then shut up and let people make their own decision if they want to invest with him or not. Leandro, is a really nice guy and I have invested with him from the start and he has always paid back fully.
Please stop this witch hunt!
//DeaDTerra
Please stop this witch hunt!
//DeaDTerra
Leandro "is a really nice guy" and pirateat40 has a "WoT rating". Leandro (like the rest of them) is a clear copy-cat.
And I am sick and tired of all these endless scams claiming to generate fantastical profits with no proof and zero evidence. No extraordinary evidence of their extraordinary profits, just a bunch of fanciful what-ifs and could-be's: money-laundering profits, coin-laundering profits, arbitrage profits, trading profits. Or interest paid by borrowers, but there are no borrowers! A duck is a duck and a spade is a spade.
All these "interest" and "insurance" programs are new, inspired by pirate's success, probably people who were doing e-gold and LR HYIPs jumping on the bitcoin bandwagon because that's where the growth is. These are a bunch of counter-productive scams. They aren't useful services which contribute to bitcoin and they don't increase the fundamental value, they hurt it!
Take this thread off of "Economics", start a "bitcoinhyipscam.com" forum, and go promote there!
Bitcoin Rain?! Don't be fooled. I'm happy for your if you take your gains before everyone else, but when you lose all your principal it won't even make me chuckle.
This is something a majority of everyone in the world follows and stands for. To accuse someone of something without any proof when you only argument is you haven't proved the opposite, is wrong. Leandro has explained several times what he does and if you observe his exchange you can see that he's doing arbitrage between MTGox us price and his own exchange.
I agree scams are counter productive but so is name calling and false accusations without proof. We should support transparency and open books, but we should not accuse every single lender or investor that's offering a deposit for being a ponzi. It's insane, if you want to accuse someone get proof then present it. To scream ponzi proves nothing and achieves nothing, so just stop it.
How can this be a ponzi when each round he pays out the full amount including the interest, how does he pay the extra interest? Maybe by his profits, oh wait... not a ponzi
Please stop screaming scam with no proof, it's getting silly
//DeaDTerra
I am so sick and tired of people calling scams with no evidence, with no proof and absolutely everything based on theories and their "all knowing" about scams. I don't get pissed off a lot but for fuck sake stop attacking Leandro, you pieces of shit. Unless you have some serious evidence against him then shut up and let people make their own decision if they want to invest with him or not. Leandro, is a really nice guy and I have invested with him from the start and he has always paid back fully.
Please stop this witch hunt!
//DeaDTerra
Please stop this witch hunt!
//DeaDTerra
Leandro "is a really nice guy" and pirateat40 has a "WoT rating". Leandro (like the rest of them) is a clear copy-cat.
And I am sick and tired of all these endless scams claiming to generate fantastical profits with no proof and zero evidence. No extraordinary evidence of their extraordinary profits, just a bunch of fanciful what-ifs and could-be's: money-laundering profits, coin-laundering profits, arbitrage profits, trading profits. Or interest paid by borrowers, but there are no borrowers! A duck is a duck and a spade is a spade.
All these "interest" and "insurance" programs are new, inspired by pirate's success, probably people who were doing e-gold and LR HYIPs jumping on the bitcoin bandwagon because that's where the growth is. These are a bunch of counter-productive scams. They aren't useful services which contribute to bitcoin and they don't increase the fundamental value, they hurt it!
Take this thread off of "Economics", start a "bitcoinhyipscam.com" forum, and go promote there!
Bitcoin Rain?! Don't be fooled. I'm happy for your if you take your gains before everyone else, but when you lose all your principal it won't even make me chuckle.
Just because I've read what the brazilian authorities are up to with BIG, I've decided to put my bitcoins in upcoming group or through your new website. Having a great return on a monthly investment is a plus.
I'm happy to see them testing bitcoin, as I believe this is a bite they just cannot chew on easily as with anything fiat or material based.
Good luck to them trying, and best wishes to Leandro and his commitment to what he's doing right now.
I'm happy to see them testing bitcoin, as I believe this is a bite they just cannot chew on easily as with anything fiat or material based.
Good luck to them trying, and best wishes to Leandro and his commitment to what he's doing right now.
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