Seems they are already operating a new scheme:
https://www.esotericinvestments.comI have contacted their support with a silly question and the reply was almost identical to what BT replied at the time they were still replying.
What was the question and response from Esoteric Investments and Bitcoin Trader? Because my impression is a strong thats not them just someone else that knows how to make money in the crypto markets and is opening that ability up to other people...making more in the process I'm sure, as that is business.
My research found that Esoteric Investments isn't Bitcoin Trader. They are a registered LLC in New Jersey, USA by
Dan Pace and Glenn Crystal (Not John Carley) since March when Bitcoin trader was doing fairly well. Pretty simple business search could have found that out for you.
Plus they are in America if Esoteric goes Gox in America, The United stated will not hesitate to drop the hammer on a scam especially a bitcoin scam they are just waiting to make an example of someone. And it was pretty clear that Bitcoin Trader was avoiding being stations in the USA despite most of their actual business and events were in the states.
If you all were so in love with Bitcoin Traders performance I think Esoteric is at least worth a look as the next thing, and hopefully Bitcoin trader doesnt gox and then we can diversify among two of these passive incomes.
I'm already in them for a small trial amount to test the waters. Feel free to use my referral to help me earn a little more.
https://www.esotericinvestments.com?refid=4
From the Facebook Bitcoin Trader Customers Association page:
Dan Pace ....I have been with Esoteric Investments from the beginning which was actually founded late March. It is only recently that the site and company has reorganized its site to show results and to accept investments. The time in the interim has been used to perfect trading strategies and clearly define a business model for the company of which I have been a part of from time to time. The members of the Esoteric Team and myself have spent countless hours and long discussions over the best practices for the company to utilize. I can ensure you that the founders of Esoteric Investments would love nothing more then to see this company grow and stand tall in 5 years time and there is no plan for a quick ponzi scheme like the one we are getting out of now.
The main idea was to make a trading pool that turns a bunch of little fish into a whale and everyone shares the rewards. If you have been in the crypto game for a while you know a big enough whale is practically immortal so this company may have a good chance of standing the test of time.
In an effort to inspire some trust in Esoteric Investments I invite anyone with questions and concerns to contact me as I do have extensive knowledge of the company from my role in its formation.
On another note the falling of Bitcoin Trader has caused a surge in Esoteric Investments with which the trading team is handling perfectly fine. I have been told that some finishing touches to the site and some updates will be made within a week. These include a detailed business model of how the investments are used and traded (much more in depth than we do arbitrage or we trade coins), a report of our research and results of the last large market mover(first report to be released will be of a past trade in Doge), and a clear distinction between Esoteric Investments and Bitcoin Trader as the team is getting near insulted by being called the same repeatedly and wants to prove they are not a John Carley in any way they can.
Their mission: To create ongoing relationships with each of our clients by providing the finest service possible to address their investment concerns and their financial needs.
Between them and myself I hope we can answer any concerns of this new opportunity entering the Crypto space, and we will use all of our power and ability to do so!
By the way I'm number four, like I said from the beginning.
https://www.esotericinvestments.com?refid=415 October at 21:45 · Like
B-B-But, I don't understand, how can the boss of the firm,
Dan Pace and a new customer,
Phantom Trader share the same referral number???
Surely, that can't mean that they are the same person???
Edit: Mr. Pace assures me that there's a perfectly rational explanation.