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full member
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October 20, 2014, 04:43:54 AM
you would need legal authorities to get them to release that information most likely
hero member
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October 20, 2014, 04:36:24 AM
The site used shadowscripts as software. Perhaps they can be traced via their software purchase to run the site?

shadowscripts.com is run by Chris Obsniuk; skype:chris.obsniuk (found on their website) and twitter handle is @shadowscripts.

They might have some contact information/payment details that could lead to this people and if there is an investigation, might be asked by release this information?

Why would they release customer information? Shadowscripts is software specifically intended for HYIP (=Ponzi schemes). As far as they are concerned, Bitcoin Trader is a satisfied customer.
newbie
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October 20, 2014, 04:29:54 AM
The site used shadowscripts as software. Perhaps they can be traced via their software purchase to run the site?

shadowscripts.com is run by Chris Obsniuk; skype:chris.obsniuk (found on their website) and twitter handle is @shadowscripts.

They might have some contact information/payment details that could lead to this people and if there is an investigation, might be asked by release this information?
full member
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October 20, 2014, 03:58:32 AM
reported my loss to interpol

$1,100

maybe if enough of us say something, they'll look into it.
member
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October 20, 2014, 03:47:58 AM
Because of arbitrage and vouchers ...
arbitrage never existed

ANd will never exist as well. The bitcoin/altcoin market can't hadle arbitrage with such a big volume. Let alone that it's to risky and could lead to losses from day to day.
We were all deceived by the sweet talk of BT
And yet you haven't learnt your lesson because you are promoting another HYIP in your signature.
Thanks Seretonin;
Please! Be politness with people that you are talking for the first time.
sr. member
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October 20, 2014, 03:11:46 AM
"Bitcoin storage was hacked" has become the official excuse for centralized organization to take customer funds and run. The sad thing is that even if you bring them to supreme court, you could not get any evidence that it is that organization itself transferred those bitcoins

We have proof that AFTER the funds were supposedly hacked, the site was still paying out, was still accepting investments and they were still paying new venues for upcoming conferences. If all the money had disappeared, why would all of that be occurring? Why would Carley still have been talking about how things were going well and how they'd be up within a couple days and everyone would be able to cash out and everything? This is how you can tell for 100% sure that the site wasn't hacked. Carley's own story doesn't match up to the things he said (which is a common theme with liars -- they can't keep their story straight -- and in this case, he fucked up BAD by not paying attention to what he was doing and saying just a week prior to this event).

"Bitcoin storage was hacked"  Wink yea right.

 We don't need to look for evidence of that.

I can image if we bring them to supreme court it will be very easy to proof that arbitrage never happen and Bitcoin Trader was fraud from beginning to the end.
 That's not all. Mining never happened, where is mining equipment and so on.
newbie
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October 19, 2014, 11:44:01 PM
"Bitcoin storage was hacked" has become the official excuse for centralized organization to take customer funds and run. The sad thing is that even if you bring them to supreme court, you could not get any evidence that it is that organization itself transferred those bitcoins

We have proof that AFTER the funds were supposedly hacked, the site was still paying out, was still accepting investments and they were still paying new venues for upcoming conferences. If all the money had disappeared, why would all of that be occurring? Why would Carley still have been talking about how things were going well and how they'd be up within a couple days and everyone would be able to cash out and everything? This is how you can tell for 100% sure that the site wasn't hacked. Carley's own story doesn't match up to the things he said (which is a common theme with liars -- they can't keep their story straight -- and in this case, he fucked up BAD by not paying attention to what he was doing and saying just a week prior to this event).

If they had indeed been hacked, the blockchain would show it.  Mr. Carley would be obligated to show the transactions in which the coin left his control and went into another wallet.  He can sign a message from the departing wallet to show those where indeed his coins.   Otherwise it didn't happen.   (This wouldn't prove that Mr. Carley didn't control the wallets that the coin was hacked into, but it would give his story some plausibility).

The blockchain never lies.   Bitcoin Trader ALWAYS lies..

As far as paying bills etc --  I don't think Mr. Carley disclosed to his staff he was stealing the money.  They probably had their own budget and where going about business as usual.  It was chump change in comparison to the whole heist.  Last I had heard, the Canadian reps indicated they had not been re-imbursed for their expenses on the Bitcoin in the Kingdom trip - and they said that was unusual.

The site paid out via other methods until its balances where depleted.  It had balances in the various altcoins and various other processors worked until there was no more money in them and when they ran out, they ran out. 


 
legendary
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October 19, 2014, 11:28:19 PM
"Bitcoin storage was hacked" has become the official excuse for centralized organization to take customer funds and run. The sad thing is that even if you bring them to supreme court, you could not get any evidence that it is that organization itself transferred those bitcoins

We have proof that AFTER the funds were supposedly hacked, the site was still paying out, was still accepting investments and they were still paying new venues for upcoming conferences. If all the money had disappeared, why would all of that be occurring? Why would Carley still have been talking about how things were going well and how they'd be up within a couple days and everyone would be able to cash out and everything? This is how you can tell for 100% sure that the site wasn't hacked. Carley's own story doesn't match up to the things he said (which is a common theme with liars -- they can't keep their story straight -- and in this case, he fucked up BAD by not paying attention to what he was doing and saying just a week prior to this event).
legendary
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Beyond Imagination
October 19, 2014, 11:21:13 PM
"Bitcoin storage was hacked" has become the official excuse for centralized organization to take customer funds and run. The sad thing is that even if you bring them to supreme court, you could not get any evidence that it is that organization itself transferred those bitcoins
newbie
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October 19, 2014, 09:56:03 PM
There is an international PI service. I consulted them about this situation.

Please share every bit of extra information you may find or have.


Wouldn't it be wiser to have the leads come to you offline so that they can be forwarded to the PI without the subject of the investigation being tipped off? 

They are watching.   They commented on the coindesk article today.. 

newbie
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October 19, 2014, 08:57:08 PM
There is an international PI service. I consulted them about this situation.

Please share every bit of extra information you may find or have.
newbie
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October 19, 2014, 06:53:22 PM
You can add 0.9K (1.4BTC) to the list... was going to end my 1st 4 month period november 1st
newbie
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October 19, 2014, 06:47:28 PM
Because of arbitrage and vouchers ...
arbitrage never existed

ANd will never exist as well. The bitcoin/altcoin market can't hadle arbitrage with such a big volume. Let alone that it's to risky and could lead to losses from day to day.
We were all deceived by the sweet talk of BT
And yet you haven't learnt your lesson because you are promoting another HYIP in your signature.
member
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Merit: 10
October 19, 2014, 06:23:58 PM
Because of arbitrage and vouchers ...
arbitrage never existed

ANd will never exist as well. The bitcoin/altcoin market can't hadle arbitrage with such a big volume. Let alone that it's to risky and could lead to losses from day to day.
We were all deceived by the sweet talk of BT
legendary
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Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
October 19, 2014, 06:05:03 PM
Because of arbitrage and vouchers ...
arbitrage never existed

ANd will never exist as well. The bitcoin/altcoin market can't hadle arbitrage with such a big volume. Let alone that it's to risky and could lead to losses from day to day.
legendary
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"Common rogue from Russia with a bare ass."
October 19, 2014, 03:52:48 PM
There's more red herrings on this thread than in a red herring shop.
legendary
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October 19, 2014, 03:50:40 PM
I thing BT are well connected with btce or something...

Thats simply stupid, they make millions / month and u think they would join a HYIP ...
sr. member
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October 19, 2014, 03:46:35 PM
Look at this guys just great I am John Carley  Grin

https://twitter.com/bensotheremail/status/523873268470939648
newbie
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October 19, 2014, 03:37:09 PM
I thing BT are well connected with btce or something...
It is very unlikely.
sr. member
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Learn to go against your mind
October 19, 2014, 03:30:43 PM
Because of arbitrage and vouchers ...
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