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sunny1

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Quote from: Centaurus on October 20, 2014, 10:23:16 AM

Quote from: Rannasha on October 20, 2014, 10:07:08 AM

Quote from: Centaurus on October 20, 2014, 09:23:02 AM

The most of us are persons who are in finacial difficulties and who, at a despair moment, naively we trust in a malicious group.

Then why the hell are you promoting yet another malicious group preying on naive users with your signature?

I am warning for all that Eso is very similar to BT; seems like a carbon copy, just take a look.
Moreover I am telling that it can be from the same owner.
And I have a strategy, to withdrawal the money before the site brake.

lol, what a contradiction to warn people about Eso and at the same time promoting them to suck in some ref commission. I call you a hypocrite!

Centaurus

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Quote from: Rannasha on October 20, 2014, 10:07:08 AM

Quote from: Centaurus on October 20, 2014, 09:23:02 AM

The most of us are persons who are in finacial difficulties and who, at a despair moment, naively we trust in a malicious group.

Then why the hell are you promoting yet another malicious group preying on naive users with your signature?

I am warning for all that Eso is very similar to BT; seems like a carbon copy, just take a look.
Moreover I am telling that it can be from the same owner.
And I have a strategy, to withdrawal the money before the site brake.

Rannasha

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Quote from: Centaurus on October 20, 2014, 09:23:02 AM

The most of us are persons who are in finacial difficulties and who, at a despair moment, naively we trust in a malicious group.

Then why the hell are you promoting yet another malicious group preying on naive users with your signature?

Centaurus

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I am alerting the people that BT is very similar to Eso!
As anyone can see in here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9211582
@Grinder, You is the ridiculous scammer that is trying to censor-me!

honoring your difficulties'm raising some letters. It is impossible to be more clear!

alani123

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Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform

Quote from: DVCfly! on October 20, 2014, 04:29:54 AM

The site used shadowscripts as software. Perhaps they can be traced via their software purchase to run the site?

shadowscripts.com is run by Chris Obsniuk; skype:chris.obsniuk (found on their website) and twitter handle is @shadowscripts.

They might have some contact information/payment details that could lead to this people and if there is an investigation, might be asked by release this information?

This is most likely a pseudonym. I bet he's a nonperson. Shadowscripts earns revenue from selling hyip scripts. Probably people buying their software are doing it anonymously as well. They'd be out of business if they started giving out information of clients.

aerensoy

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Have you read coindesk news about this?

http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-trader-customer-losses-management-disappearance/?utm_source=CoinDesk+subscribers&utm_campaign=145124d972-EMAIL_RSS_CAMPAIGN&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_74abb9e6ab-145124d972-78932361

Grinder

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Quote from: Centaurus on October 20, 2014, 09:23:02 AM

The most of us are persons who are in finacial difficulties and who, at a despair moment, naively we trust in a malicious group.
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This is getting ridiculous, even for scammers like you.

Centaurus

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@Grinder; Every time someone ask me to include your lost I will do.
Mostly if that person ask with education, unlike the mode that you are talking.
If you wish I can leave this task for you!

The only way that I stop working in this list is if someone else continue the task. Anyone!

The list is not mine, and I am not who started the list.
But if one educated person talk to me, then I fulfill the request.

Centaurus

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Quote from: pawlo74 on October 20, 2014, 08:01:35 AM

Quote from: ?? on ??

In this list are the losses.
ML= Money Lost; MS = Money Sent; MR = Money Recovered
ML = MS - MR

icecreamgenius = $40k
joystickj = $37k
Casimir1904 = $25k
jimmad13 = $24k
timothyvail = $20k
varChar = $14.5k
pawlo74 = $12k
c0c0 = $10k
Karsten Holland = $8760
tonyca = $5964.1
Centaurus = $5k
justGotConned (Jeebs007) = $4.1k
tuktukracer = $3k
proximator = $2.4K
Attie707 = $2k
aerensoy = $2k
ranlo = $1.8k
Forgaria = 1578$
zwickl = $1.3k
tywe = $1,230.95
puma1888 = $1.2k
Digicoinz = $1.1k
Mr_River_x = $0.9K

List getting bigger, Centaurus if you can add Tottal Amount at the end ?

Thank about your sugestion, I can post the sum at every 20 losts.
Grinder has reason when said that this list is very very far from the total losses.
When I see various peoples asking to me to include your name in the "Losses List", I have perceived that these people feels more comfortable just by having your lost registered in a list with other similar persons.

But the limite brain of Grinder don't comunicate corretly with her stupid mouth, because I don't have motivations to don't lead to the autorities a type of sucker like her that is posting blasphemes!

I was not who started this list, as anyone can see https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9237195
I only adopted this list just because no other person do.

The people with her losses in this list are not "sucker" as Grinder is talking.
These people are persons who deserves regards of all others.
The most of us are persons who are in finacial difficulties and who, at a despair moment, naively we trust in a malicious group.

pawlo74

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Quote from: Grinder on October 20, 2014, 09:12:36 AM

Quote from: pawlo74 on October 20, 2014, 09:05:08 AM

I can not understand how you people can just give up and say: "well they use TOR, they clever and just let them do this nasty HYIP/ PONZI or whatever !!!
They CRIMINALS lets stop them.
Grinder I do not care about myself but have you read how some other people suffer now ?

Considering I've warned about this very frequently for at least 6 months I think I have done more than most in trying to stop them. Unfortunately it's now most likely too late for those who didn't listen. All you can do is learn to not let your wishful thinking control you the next time.

YES, I have to admit we need more people like you. YES I have to say THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT WHAT YOU DID 6 monhts ago !!! Really appreciated !
Unfortunately I found this tread too late about 1 month ago. Did you try warn people on Facebook site ?
But we also need people who never give up and be able to say "THAT'S IT, ENOUGH !" and keep trying stop them.
I am talking about future, I am talking not about us, I am talking about our children and try to prevent this happen to them.

Grinder

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Quote from: pawlo74 on October 20, 2014, 09:05:08 AM

I can not understand how you people can just give up and say: "well they use TOR, they clever and just let them do this nasty HYIP/ PONZI or whatever !!!
They CRIMINALS lets stop them.
Grinder I do not care about myself but have you read how some other people suffer now ?

Considering I've warned about this very frequently for at least 6 months I think I have done more than most in trying to stop them. Unfortunately it's now most likely too late for those who didn't listen. All you can do is learn to not let your wishful thinking control you the next time.

pawlo74

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Quote from: Grinder on October 20, 2014, 08:19:13 AM

I hope you realize that being on this list means outing yourself as a sucker, and you will be on the short list of scammers who will target you for their new ponzies. It's even maintained by a person who uses the messages it generates to promote a new ponzi. It is unlikely that you will ever find the guy behind BT, so the most you can hope to get from it is a little bit of sympathy. All communications from "John Carley" were probably done using Tor and other anonymous methods, and the bank transfers through unknowing people he paid through Localbitcoins or similar.

Yes you right in my case that's already started but I do not really care actually I am glad because I learned by mistakes I can recognize them now. "What doesn't kill you makes you stronger"
I can not understand how you people can just give up and say: "well they probably done using Tor and other anonymous methods", they clever and just let them do this nasty HYIP/ PONZI or whatever !!!
They CRIMINALS lets stop them.
Grinder I do not care about myself but have you read how some other people suffer now ?

Grinder

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I hope you realize that being on this list means outing yourself as a sucker, and you will be on the short list of scammers who will target you for their new ponzies. It's even maintained by a person who uses the messages it generates to promote a new ponzi. It is unlikely that you will ever find the guy behind BT, so the most you can hope to get from it is a little bit of sympathy. All communications from "John Carley" were probably done using Tor and other anonymous methods, and the bank transfers through unknowing people he paid through Localbitcoins or similar.

pawlo74

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Quote from: ?? on ??

In this list are the losses.
ML= Money Lost; MS = Money Sent; MR = Money Recovered
ML = MS - MR

icecreamgenius = $40k
joystickj = $37k
Casimir1904 = $25k
jimmad13 = $24k
timothyvail = $20k
varChar = $14.5k
pawlo74 = $12k
c0c0 = $10k
Karsten Holland = $8760
tonyca = $5964.1
Centaurus = $5k
justGotConned (Jeebs007) = $4.1k
tuktukracer = $3k
proximator = $2.4K
Attie707 = $2k
aerensoy = $2k
ranlo = $1.8k
Forgaria = 1578$
zwickl = $1.3k
tywe = $1,230.95
puma1888 = $1.2k
Digicoinz = $1.1k
Mr_River_x = $0.9K

List getting bigger, Centaurus if you can add Total Amount at the end ?

nutildah

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Fascinating thread.

Read about 20 pages, I really do hope you catch this guy.

What ridiculous humans we are.

Thanks for the lulz.

Hyena

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Cool to see people getting ripped of by HYIPs still in 2014. Brings back bad memories of my childhood when I invested my hard earned pocket money into HYIPs like SolidInvestment and FastMarket using e-gold Cheesy

I was 16 years old (2004) and lost 300$. It's interesting that when I initially bought bitcoins I never saw it as a ponzi, quite the opposite.

aerensoy

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You can also file complaint through:
http://www.ic3.gov/complaint/default.aspx

tywe

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Here's a good question, if all the funds were withdrawn to prove solvency like Carly claims, then how were the trading results still happening? Obviously the trading results were fake and kept being posted for days after cash out requests stopped happening, not to mention all the time before that when the funds were supposedly already stolen by hackers. This was definitely a poorly planned theft and hopefully some law enforcement is able to put him in prison for it.

Anyhow, I had invested 4 BTC valued at $2,400 a few months ago and was approx 1 month away from being able to get it back. Luckily I only reinvested the first $200 of profits since it didn't make much sense to reinvest when I felt that the price of BTC could go up significantly in the near future, not to mention I was also skeptical of the site, so I had been withdrawing profits daily ever since and managed to recover 1.948411 BTC before it ended. So feel free to add me to the list for however much loss this works out to. In BTC its 2.051589 lost, which was $1,230.95 according to the original $600 BTC price or $779.60 at the current $380 price.

Grinder

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Quote from: Rannasha on October 20, 2014, 04:36:24 AM

Why would they release customer information? Shadowscripts is software specifically intended for HYIP (=Ponzi schemes). As far as they are concerned, Bitcoin Trader is a satisfied customer.

They probably don't even have it. You can see from the payment processors that they know their customers. All of them are of the shady kind that ponzies use because they do anonymous transfers. They only support Solid TrustPay for selling their software.

Grinder

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Quote from: Centaurus on October 20, 2014, 03:47:58 AM

Quote from: Seretonin on October 19, 2014, 06:47:28 PM

And yet you haven't learnt your lesson because you are promoting another HYIP in your signature.

Thanks Seretonin;
Please! Be politness with people that you are talking for the first time.

Why should anyone be polite to vultures like you? I see no reason to be polite to someone who promotes obvious scams.

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