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brand new
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October 16, 2014, 09:58:31 AM
I got the same email. Site is now offline. This morning my BTC and shares were gone. Pretty awesome. Oh well.
newbie
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October 16, 2014, 09:57:32 AM
I lost more than 6,250 usd in shares. .....I want to find this guys.
newbie
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October 16, 2014, 09:55:44 AM
What a convenient and compelling story is this one crap with the hacker. Almost makes me pull some more cash and give it to John Carley to take away his grief, all his intentions were immaculate and transparent (besides his identity of course). John Carley should firstly hand over all files & documentation to the public, not to some authorities from a far away country (who I'm sure will solve the case and return the money ... with profit).

My account was fully cleaned (several hours ago), no shares, no pending cashouts, no nothing ...
I've invested all my mined earnings (~ 6 BTC at the time) and had ROI last week on 9th, the same day it all went south. 4 k USD down the drain.
Are there any legal actions that can be taken against him ? Does anyone know how he is ? There were other names involved in this scam : Michael Brandenburg, Thomas Oppermman, what about them ?
Also there were several photos posted on tweeter, does anyone recognize those persons ?
Much of the fault is on our side (investors) for being naive (and a bit greedy), but there should be someone held responsible for false advertising and stealing peoples money.

Moving from Denial to Anger ....

legendary
Activity: 1764
Merit: 1031
October 16, 2014, 09:54:17 AM
Who'd have thought it would have ended like this? They seemed like such a legitimate business. And offering such believable returns with complete transparency, too.
I guess they just got really unlucky when they were trying to satisfy their over-demanding customers with the audit, right?
Face. Palm.
full member
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Merit: 100
...The Shadow knows.
October 16, 2014, 09:41:27 AM
Damn...I should have made the CS Ticket to change my email. But I figured no one was home by then Tongue

And...noooo $360 USD that where in Shares till Nov. 14th xD
full member
Activity: 486
Merit: 101
October 16, 2014, 09:34:35 AM
Same case for me.

I had 10 Trading share and few $$ won by them... All is disappeared, account history too...

If history is right (BTC wallet hacked and emptied), why deleting all account history?
No logical here...
And i agree for ransom, lol, why hacker would propose this deal, it's definitively not logical...
legendary
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Merit: 1000
October 16, 2014, 09:31:05 AM
I hope none of you geniuses are still buying this. Why did they need to get rid of all their fiat to prove solvency? Why couldn't they just show control of wallets and trading accounts that contained all the coins they were supposed to have? Why would the hacker offer to give 75% of the coins back? Why are people stupid enough to fall for this shit over and over again?
hero member
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Merit: 505
October 16, 2014, 09:15:20 AM
Oh well, I just wish that 2BTC i had pending had expired 1 day sooner. C'est la vie.

Gentlemen, it was a pleasure earning with you.
legendary
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Crackpot Idealist
October 16, 2014, 09:07:29 AM
post the email screen shot showing the email address (blank your's out of course).



Needless to say I logged in and my account was cleaned out.
member
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October 16, 2014, 09:05:13 AM

Looking at the trading today, we can buy back our bitcoins.
newbie
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October 16, 2014, 09:03:41 AM
post the email screen shot showing the email address (blank your's out of course).

its from [email protected], if you are affected I assume you will receive it/have received it too
full member
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...The Shadow knows.
October 16, 2014, 08:59:25 AM
post the email screen shot showing the email address (blank your's out of course).
hero member
Activity: 788
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October 16, 2014, 08:57:57 AM
just received:

Dear Clients

Regrettably I have to announce the failure and closure of Bitcoin Trader.

While preparing for the final audit results, a task we were working on for weeks now, our bitcoin wallet has been hacked and emptied, just after exchanging our fiat holdings within the exchanges to bitcoin and transferring our entire holdings to our wallet, in order to proof our solvency.

It is a known fact that I personally opposed any proof of solvency, but agreed to conduct it for the sake of a few dozen small and medium investors.

The hacker contacted me shortly after he took advantage of our holdings and demanded a ransom in order to transfer the coins back. I have agreed to a 25% ransom of the entire sum, but haven’t heard back from him for several days now.

My aim was to create something based on trust, just as bitcoin itself is based on distributed trust. Unfortunately I must admit today, I have failed. All left to do now is to declare bankruptcy with the Panamanian authorities and to hand over all relevant files and information for further investigation.

Sincerely,
John Carley

 Roll Eyes

Well that was anticlimactic, lol.
newbie
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Merit: 0
October 16, 2014, 08:55:32 AM
Just like to state that all Bitcoin Trader information (Shares, Support Tickets etc) I can't gain access to anymore. No Records. John Carley has failed us.  Undecided
newbie
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Merit: 0
October 16, 2014, 08:47:23 AM
just received:

Dear Clients

Regrettably I have to announce the failure and closure of Bitcoin Trader.

While preparing for the final audit results, a task we were working on for weeks now, our bitcoin wallet has been hacked and emptied, just after exchanging our fiat holdings within the exchanges to bitcoin and transferring our entire holdings to our wallet, in order to proof our solvency.

It is a known fact that I personally opposed any proof of solvency, but agreed to conduct it for the sake of a few dozen small and medium investors.

The hacker contacted me shortly after he took advantage of our holdings and demanded a ransom in order to transfer the coins back. I have agreed to a 25% ransom of the entire sum, but haven’t heard back from him for several days now.

My aim was to create something based on trust, just as bitcoin itself is based on distributed trust. Unfortunately I must admit today, I have failed. All left to do now is to declare bankruptcy with the Panamanian authorities and to hand over all relevant files and information for further investigation.

Sincerely,
John Carley

 Roll Eyes
full member
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...The Shadow knows.
October 16, 2014, 08:44:29 AM
I agree. The only people who have said John Carley exists are Brandenburg and Opperman. We have no proof he exists beyond the statements of known fraudsters. So, as far as I am concerned, there is no John Carley.

There is, however, a Thomas Opperman. And he's been doxxed.

And you assume he's the same Opperman...or even a real person to begin with.

A well-played Con will have fake "legit" people.

In fact. I, personally, would setup fake 'documents' for people to "dox". Tour a neighborhood, get a feel for it. So I can act like I live there....because I know of the little park down the block that was built after a house was torn down. Or the fact the mayor was caught drinking and driving in late September for the second time.

You know, the little things that only someone from the area would know.....after all, most local papers are delivered before 6 AM Wink

Then make social media posts about those things. Set up weak passwords for those accounts so I can 'get hacked'. Maybe even go as far as to setup social media accounts for my 'fake family'.

After all, we're talking potential millions in nearly untraceable "cash" (Bitcoin). All I have to do is siphon off a lil here and there and run it through tumblers; and by little I mean a thousand or so a week. So it's more than "worth my time" to make this Con look 'legit'.


Once you know what people will look for you can easily steer them any direction you want.

PS: Most 'good' thieves don't get greedy...instead of taking that $100 in $1 bills laying on the counter; they'll take 23 and leave the rest. --Conartists are just thieves that trick you into giving them the money.
hero member
Activity: 788
Merit: 505
October 16, 2014, 08:14:05 AM
I agree. The only people who have said John Carley exists are Brandenburg and Opperman. We have no proof he exists beyond the statements of known fraudsters. So, as far as I am concerned, there is no John Carley.

There is, however, a Thomas Opperman. And he's been doxxed.
member
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Merit: 10
October 16, 2014, 07:47:54 AM
*IF* John Carley exists at all. Imagine he doesn't for a second. All victims trying to find a non existent person that was just set in place to take the blame while the real head(s) are laughing at the crowd hunting a phantom.
legendary
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Merit: 1064
Bitcoin is antisemitic
October 16, 2014, 06:28:39 AM
there is little to go on in terms of finding John "Mr. Big" Carley.

if they found Pirate@40 and DPR, mr. Carley do not seem to have many chances to stay lost.
legendary
Activity: 1932
Merit: 1737
"Common rogue from Russia with a bare ass."
October 16, 2014, 06:08:15 AM
The show is well and truly over when the shills start packing their bags and moving on.

Crazyivan, shill par excellence, has moved on to pastures new, ltcgear I believe, and locked his 33 page of puffery
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitcoin-arbitrage-quite-profitable-btc-investment-make-up-to-1-roi-per-day-527395

And the aggressive bullshitter bcmine has deleted most of his self moderated nonsense.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/faq-bitcoin-traderbiz-aka-bt-trader-for-bitcoin-arbitrage-returns-677591


Yet another support group has sprung up on FB, Bitcoin Trader Customers Association. https://www.facebook.com/groups/1567827110107443/
It is just another band of disparate and desperate people trying to make some sense of what has happened.
Whether "Brandenburg" and Opperman are being deliberately obstructive or not, there is little to go on in terms of finding John "Mr. Big" Carley.
I think that their encouragement of the ludicrous lost at sea theory can be seen as buying time or a red herring, not helpful in any way.
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