Topic: bitcoin-trader.biz - page 4. (Read 203915 times)

Cheers. I live in UK and I didn't know about that website.

ps. I have just registered on that forum but I am not giving any details yet. I have nothing to hide but do not trust any government even UK. Government and banks stick each other and if UK bank block my account I am losing my job. I do not know how in fee country that is possible at all but it happens every day to many people, seems like UK is not free country yet.
Also I prefer this forum because of freedom of the speech and almost no moderation by admins.

There is a new website collecting information from BT investors to help in the investigation, here is the e-mail from Jo Macdonald (BT UK representative who also got scammed £14,748.00)

Hello BT investors,

There is a small group of us who are leading the charge in tracking down lost money.

We are asking everyone to enter their BT losses on the following database. So please pass on the following to anyone you know who has been affected (apologies if you have already completed the form and have registered with the website, also please could you forward to anyone you know who may not have done so.:

http://www.bt-investigation.pw/

You can also follow the BT investigation discussion on the following forum and contribute if you can.

http://bt-investigation.pw/phpbb/



BT-Investigation Report for lost funds


www.bt-investigation.pw

Many thanks

Too bad I was right. I hate it when people lose money!

Where's Digicoinz or 1RuneKing  

Yeah - it was clear from the start that esoteric existed purely to hoover up the few credulous idiots who were looking for something stupid to do with their money after bitcoin-trader folded. The fact it had such a short lifespan proves that very few people were stupid enough to fall for it, thankfully.

People who lost money there can probably take some comfort in the knowledge that the scammers probably didn't do too well out of this one themselves, and are very unlikely to be frolicking in pile of money on a tropical island. After paying out whatever they needed for setup and promotion to get things started up, probably not enough to be worth the hassle of now being on the run from the law and whatever vigilante measures angry investors try to take.

Yes,  but there where 10 pages or so of these guys ambulance chasing Bitcoin-trader.biz customers after the collapse in this thread and several of us telling them to get lost, that nobody needed another ponzi.    I figured it deserved a "told you so" here. 

Well, the paper there says that they intend to sell everything, gain or loss and pay the investors back soon.   They made it very clear that there will probably be losses.  If they where ponzi  (sure smells like it) they will probably be pretty substantial.  Time may tell..

u know u  posted in wrong topic ?

They are clawing back the >16% "trading profits" they supposedly achieved over the past weeks in an attempt to pay everyone back the principal (and they are not sure they can achieve that).  So obviously it was a ponzi scam, just one that got stopped early enough that its still possible to roll back, since it didnt operate long enough for anyone to withdraw their principal.

Major props to the NJ bureau of securities for acting quickly and stopping this before it spun out of control.

I just called the phone listen in their website, the guy that answered told me refunds should start coming in at the begining of the next week. I'm not even invested into their website but oh well, I decided I should just let that out here to see if this is going to turn being a scam as well despite their claims.

what about funds ? did they refund to the investors ?

https://esotericinvestments.com/close.pdf

Well, that was 10 pages of bickering over nothing...

In other new, Bitcoin-trader.biz is still gone. 

Bread crumbs for the FBI search engines:

Bitcoin-trader.biz fraud tax evasion bitcoins fiat scam money laundering jail time criminal fraud civil fraud online exchange currency converter shares dividends high investment yielding plan HYIP hundreds thousands millions BTC USD dollars arbitrage fake identity

Yes there is a hope if he is american and you can find him in USA but what if for instance he is Russian ?

It seems you should track down bitcoin-trader.biz the same way as the 'Pirate' scammer:
http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-ponzi-schemer-charged-criminal-securities-fraud/

They were able to find him and now he is facing jail time!
I hope you find bitcoin-trader just the same.

+1
Unfortunately it's true.

The truth is already in light. BTC-trader was a ponzi and they ripped everyone off. These schemes pop up and die all the time. Sometimes law enforcement catch up with the perpetrators, but more usually they get away with it - cops don't usually make recouping money that investors knowingly put into unlicensed, unregulated ponzi schemes a priority, when there are people out there getting raped and murdered every day.
No reason not to chase after them of course but don't get your hopes up.

Done already.

Reported to the US FBI Internet Crime Complaint Center (IC3).

by tracing one of my 3BTC payment to bitcointrader. I think I found some of their BTC address ,final balance of today is below.

https://blockchain.info/address/3Bgk1oHeomvu6bo4q6RKA6xoA8X8B342Y7
Total Received    699.49132171 BTC    
Final Balance    699.49112171 BTC
6ce1d71c334f2988767ed01687ec0b0d853f610f59aa2e236c6b7eae1fe612eb 2014-10-06 05:13:11 there is no any transaction after Oct 6.2014.


https://blockchain.info/address/1B8LLzGQWrJubjoNNatmY8WedDtnnqPVbd
Total Received    24.90476 BTC    
Final Balance    24.90476 BTC
6ce1d71c334f2988767ed01687ec0b0d853f610f59aa2e236c6b7eae1fe612eb 2014-10-06 05:13:11


https://blockchain.info/address/13LhuDLbu45xRNUMfXr8T8rqWko4UV87Xy
this is another one.
No. Transactions    362    
Total Received    86,323.63460471 BTC    
Final Balance    0 BTC    last transaction date was 37b2be6954efef98aade2f914dea2c1542b8787eef0806dbb323fc1522fcccda 2014-10-08 02:39:48
check the blockchain history, most their transfer out BTC happened those days,

37b2be6954efef98aade2f914dea2c1542b8787eef0806dbb323fc1522fcccda 2014-10-08 02:39:48
13LhuDLbu45xRNUMfXr8T8rqWko4UV87Xy
      1CiKt9w4XkSY4eqXahtWKPiaSEc9FuH45y 1,163.216 BTC
3Q4YQ7f3f8tq7FVLCwfXaXifcgZWzKNALd 0.9839 BTC
41cdbf7e651c3fa2a94245e9e9e7a469336bea905a07979e889191dbfb4b5268 2014-10-08 01:34:24
13LhuDLbu45xRNUMfXr8T8rqWko4UV87Xy
      1KyFJAh8wVgcouL7FfTkMRn8QsaZ12gccS 759.9999 BTC
1MMHKZquoSPEAza7vakz25rc4PVeGHYW8q 40 BTC
eba5a5bff72615f409964bf2e2f0390309c6a2d058171cc6eaef31583cefe297 2014-10-08 01:34:22
13LhuDLbu45xRNUMfXr8T8rqWko4UV87Xy
      15mA6ko5bNEgVYG4wgemLHnMKeqWuzkaHT 12.19 BTC
141E1ZRiDhG77CRNPVKAZJeSCbjmNfHXy3 702.0099 BTC
e4b75017fa02aad2da5438383ac4042b3b305d4192ec2036bbdc722822ca8ae2 2014-10-07 18:54:32
13LhuDLbu45xRNUMfXr8T8rqWko4UV87Xy
      16aQqsq3a7SPPBHVM6bRdcCcz53NBLbkMo 21.7029 BTC
1GgxYbhyfnVtytcW4hRNMpcyhjjPsUBQTE 178.297 BTC

https://blockchain.info/address/1EKD2D7bRQykMXHRGaChMQUH36bEk8x3yU
still have transaction  goes here as today's date.
Total Received    41,125.10066003 BTC    
Final Balance    236.00011001 BTC
d93c7df9b2081f4983a45d7926b3743cbcc91b1141edcc7c49b99525b9cd3820 2014-10-31 02:10:47


https://blockchain.info/address/13p5iQkqBEVgKmPeJqEL2LBRS44PjX1dZL
No. Transactions    9740    
Total Received    638,787.85183483 BTC    
Final Balance    10,389.00000026 BTC    
as today's date,some money goes to this address.