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First post ever here...  I was prob down like 10k between all my user names...

About 20 minutes ago... yeah a screen shot would've been easier

https://i.imgur.com/m1biku0.jpg

Still waiting on the cashout

Sure, we can arbitrate the issue with a third party. We were hoping that the forum here would come to a consensus, but we can also go through an arbiter instead.

Do you have any suggestions on how to do this? Or who to use? Nobody here has ever used a Bitcoin arbiter before.

I do believe you should arbitrate the issue with a trusted user on the forum or within the community.

I don't see either sides coming to an agreement, and I believe the matter should be viewed and decided upon by a 3rd party. I can understand both sides of the argument here.

Unibtc.4real definitely seems sketchy and I feel that he is 99% guilty, but I have to give him the reasonable doubt. I believe cheaters and exploiters should be punished, but only if we know without a doubt that they are the culprit.

Going forward, as Dooglus said, maybe a re-design of the system to prevent this manipulation in the future?

I've complained in the past - but streaks happen for the player too.

Ran off this streak this weekend and cashed out seconds after.  My favorite feature is the instant payouts.

http://s28.postimg.org/pj1iawxhp/bcvc.jpg

In my honest opinion, you should donate his 10 BTC to a worthy charity. Keep the 4 BTC in "winnings" to help cover the damage of his double spends.

Its obvious it was the same guy. Too much coincidence to not be especially in betting style, game, fee type when BTC sent, and his argument to just get back his 10 BTC.

Those sites are ridiculous!

An example review:

"You go through a very long process of signing up. It took them 72 hours to verify my account, which is way too long. They weren’t apologetic either and came up with a story saying that my ID was unreadable, which is a complete lie. Then you deposit some Bitcoin into your account and get a sign up bonus..."

1. We have no sign up or verification process whatsoever
2. We never ask for ID
3. We don't give sign up bonuses because our house edge is too low.

I guess we should be honored that people are spending time and money on writing fake reviews about Bitcoin Video Casino...?

Wow thanks so much for letting us know! Much appreciated!

hey ppl, bitcoin minefield admin here, just letting you know that Unibtc4real tried a double spend on my site too.
just in case anyone is unsure about if he is legit or not.

I'm not going to argue about topics that are irrelevant to the issue, that address has not been used for some time now.. But the real issue here is the admin has no hard facts that connects my account to the accounts that attacked his site.. Similarities are not proof of any crime or misconduct.. I have explained my side of the story and I stand my ground that my account and/or me did not commit the said double spent attack.

If he's stolen your coins, he's stolen your coins. You don't get to give him any options.


Those sites are a joke. The reviews are way off base. I saw one where the reviewer was talking about having played poker on PrimeDice. I think they must be paid reviews by a competitor site deliberately discrediting the competition. Check the other reviews by the authors who reviewed this place and you'll find they had similarly horrible experiences everywhere else they played too.

My opinion:

I'm looking at unibtc.4real signature address 1Uni1bGoEeDfdW2skwv2JihHrnrJe5RQf

All sent transactions here
https://blockchain.info/address/1Uni1bGoEeDfdW2skwv2JihHrnrJe5RQf?offset=0&filter=1
Mostly are .0002 fee, sometimes .0004 fee when many inputs.  So perhaps an older version of electrum which uses a .0002 btc/1kb default fee.

It is very inconsistent and shady to have such a low fee 0.000001 when you never customized your fee before.

Interesting that you prepared a defense for this already when nothing was mentioned about about location.



This is inconsistent on how you felt before:




Agree with dooglus here, no legitimate honest customer would be fine in parting ways if they were indeed scammed. Only a double spender would be happy to get back the deposit.

The fact that he will actually not give my whole btc back including the winnings since it will make him stupid and that according to previous history of the site,they never actually give back any btc they have stolen (basing on the reviews i found on the net), so im giving him the option to just give my deposit back, a 4 btc loss is better than a 14btc loss. Basing on different scam reviews i found against them, its not the first time this has happened.
http://www.sitejabber.com/reviews/www.bitcoinvideocasino.com
https://uk.trustpilot.com/review/bitcoinvideocasino.com

In reading through the thread, this comment struck me as unfair:


This isn't true. Fees are only required if the priority of the transaction is too low. You can figure around 1 "BTC day" of input weight as the threshold.

unibtc.4real's deposit has 3 inputs worth around 18 BTC in total, each about 4 hours old. That gives a weight of around 3 BTC days which should be plenty to qualify as a fee-free transaction.

While it seems strange that unibtc.4real is using the exact same fee as the attacker, it strikes me that they both may have just used something like the "frugal fee" box on blockchain.info's wallet webapp. It has been a long time since I used it, but from what I remember it has predefined fee settings. If the fee both these guys used corresponds to a preset in a popular wallet app then this looks much less suspicious.

The main thing that raised my suspicions wasn't any of the points you made, but this:


If I was falsely accused of cheating, there's no way I would propose settling for just my deposit back. "I risked my coins and won, dammit! Pay up!" would be my attitude.

I don't envy you the position you find yourselves in now. You don't want to let the scammer get away with it, but you also don't want to punish an innocent player. I guess the solution here is to either stop accepting zero-conf deposits or at least restrict the range of deposits you credit instantly. Maybe insist on a certain fee, only offer instant deposits up to a certain size, limit it to accounts with a certain betting volume, etc.

We haven't shown any information to personally identify the person. His name, email address, IP address, etc.

We are presenting our side of the story and hoping that the community can help resolve this issue.

So their TOS says:

It could be argued that a bitcoin address is personal information, but it could be better argued that bitcoin addresses are publicly available information.  Anyone with access to the blockchain, so everyone, can see every in use bitcoin address.  BVC did not reveal this person's IP as they've said they wouldn't, and they have not revealed the aliases or email addresses used by the person they've accused of misconduct.  I think BVC has held up its end of the agreement here.

BitcoinVideoPoker - I must say I find it disturbing you are so revealing about your user's activities on your site.  Do you not have a privacy policy?  Or do you ignore privacy if you feel you are being scammed?