Bitcoin was made by CIA or NSA - page 2.

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Quote from: Lionel on November 11, 2018, 12:01:10 PM

Among all the Satoshi Nakamoto's identity theories, this is what i believe the most: https://bitcoinist.com/kaspersky-labs-co-founder-says-bitcoin-created-american-intelligence-agencies/

https://dollarvigilante.com/blog/2016/05/05/im-starting-think-cia-developed-bitcoin-still-love.html

https://metro.co.uk/2018/06/15/nsa-helped-invent-bitcoin-founder-worlds-second-largest-cryptocurrency-ethereum-claims-7631719/

That's why countries like Russia and China banned bitcoin, while USA is allowing it to prosper unhindered.

After all, if the gov hated bitcoin so much then it was very easy for them to take it down:
they may just arrest/blackmail the devteam/distributors of Bitcoin,
and/or block the bootstrap node IPs that the BTC wallets require to join the network when they are launched.

It would be that easy

If this is true and the government of the States of America is involved in the creation of bitcoins, why do many ICO prohibit their citizens from participating in the sale of tokens, why are regulations from the SEC so much tightened?

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Quote from: Msworld83 on December 15, 2018, 12:47:29 PM

America is a kind of country that has every way in making everything work for them , and secretly do have in-house to work on every thing and see how it can benefit them and if found not useful that is when they war against it or if not working in there way or how they want it . so they always have special people on every technology to know in and out .

Madness! Dude made bank via the grammatically-incorrect word spaghetti above in satisfying his sig campaign commitment.

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America is a kind of country that has every way in making everything work for them , and secretly do have in-house to work on every thing and see how it can benefit them and if found not useful that is when they war against it or if not working in there way or how they want it . so they always have special people on every technology to know in and out .

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Okay once again we are discussing this, satoshi is someone who demands his privacy safe and the right to privacy is guaranteed by legislation, especially US upholds this. As long as Bitcoin remains open-source I still won't be affected by the issue of control and the like because I'm sure the Bitcoin community won't let that happen and if they will close Bitcoin, I think it's a very big step for them to take into account considering the agenda they bring must require Bitcoin to keep running and that closure will destroy the global economy if Bitcoin is big already but the question is "how do they close Bitcoin?"

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Quote from: Lionel on November 11, 2018, 12:01:10 PM

Among all the Satoshi Nakamoto's identity theories, this is what i believe the most: https://bitcoinist.com/kaspersky-labs-co-founder-says-bitcoin-created-american-intelligence-agencies/

The US government is constantly struggling against terrorism, why the hell would they try to create a pseudo-anonymous currency that could make life easier for terrorists? that does not make any sense, we have to forget these theories

Quote from: Lionel on November 11, 2018, 12:01:10 PM

That's why countries like Russia and China banned bitcoin, while USA is allowing it to prosper unhindered.

Russia and China are shady governments that want to have 100% control over their people, so they do not like bitcoin because of the decentralized nature of bitcoin

Quote from: Lionel on November 11, 2018, 12:01:10 PM

they may just arrest/blackmail the devteam/distributors of Bitcoin,
and/or block the bootstrap node IPs that the BTC wallets require to join the network when they are launched.

It would be that easy

But they have not done this until nowadays because they do not look bitcoin as a great threat, they know they can by laws favorable to all

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I firmly believe that his guy - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Harris_Simons - created Bitcoin. He once worked for the NSA.

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I think it is not made by any of the CIA or NSA it is designed by a simple person with an idea to facilitate the online business and trade of goods and services across the world with out any third party so CIA and NSA do not need any kind of currency and crypto is using by individuals for trade while if we think that it is using by CIA it will not fact because they can use other fiat money as well and they have some other objectives not to involve in crypto but i know one thing that crypto is the future currency.

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I don't believe this because if you take your time to study the bitcoin white paper carefully you will understand that bitcoin is never developed as an experimental tool but a full currency that is Design to survive independently of any organization or government.

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Surely it was not Satoshy nakamoto, this is a fictitious name to cover someone or a state that wanted to create the blockchain to move big money to fight the banks! Is part of this financial war today, planned many years ago.

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Even if it's true so what? I don't feel aggrieved if it’s a fact, we cannot deny that behind the big creation there is a role of government there, whether they are the one who started it or take it over because they have possible access and resources. I don't think this should be a long debate, yet Satoshi himself said that he didn’t want his privacy to be revealed and we shoauld respect it.

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No one has seen the real atoshi Nakamoto until now, which may be a fictional figure in the US intelligence agency!
The actual founder of BTC may be a CIA or NSA person trying to achieve some purpose through cryptocurrency!

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I have heard too much about Bitcoin's various conspiracy theories. It is time to stop. No matter who the real creators of Bitcoin are, Bitcoin has nothing to do with it. Bitcoin is now marketized, and the price is now More depends on market demand, neither CIA nor NSA is important, it is important that Bitcoin is now independent.

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CIA and NSA are government agencies. Why will they invent a digital cash that will not be controlled by the government?

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Quote from: cellard on November 13, 2018, 10:25:23 PM

Russia has been going back and forth about bitcoin for ages now. They even threatened people involved on bitcoin with jail time:

to be fair most of the news from Russia has been similar to the news from China. it is always exaggerated in English news media for some reason and the bitcoin news sites always make it even worse by adding fake information to the same news.
most of the times it is some low ranking government official who is expressing their opinion about bitcoin and the news sites report it as an official statement or law!

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How useful would it be to use bitcoin for surveillance or spying? Well I just think this is just a misinformation or misleading thoughts that could have gone wild. If I am the CIA or NSA I would rather choose a different method of looking through other countries movements. Not this because the whole network is very much complicated to trace transactions and the anonymity is part of bitcoin which means we can never really know who really is the person doing the transaction. And granting if it would be so easy to get the information, what will they get out of bitcoin transactions and how will they manage to look at every individuals account? If this is the method then it isn't worth I'd rather use my satellites better than spying over the cryptocurrency market.

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Quote from: daarul50 on November 14, 2018, 01:30:23 AM

I don't care who created Bitcoin because I can only thank the person for creating Bitcoin and its technology. Even though you assume that an intelligence agency from America that creates bitcoin does not mean we should not use that technology.

I have the same thought, I don't need to hide anything from the government because I'm just a normal citizen who makes money through cryptocurrency and because of bitcoin I'm slowly becoming a financially free. This technology is really amazing, and If the CIA or NSA or whatsoever created this platform, we should all be thankful for everything.

we are still not sure about this one, this is just an speculation and no one really knows. Maybe CIA agents really wants to free themselves from paying huge taxes from the government, or to do something that is not controlled by their government. Let's just live simple in a world of cryptocurrency, and do nothing wrong in this market, and we will be more blessed later on.

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I totally agree with you on this, despite the fact that I don't 100% agree with the ops point of bitcoin being created by the US government. It very simple since bitcoin is giving us an edge above what we use to have then I think we should be cool with it. All we want is a working system and bitcoin is giving us that system so if it is developed by the US government or any other individual it all a welcomed development.

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If you look at the massive coincidence of hal finney living near a satoshi nakamoto there must be something going on there. This wasn't nsa created, but hal must have had a bigger part than he claimed

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What would be the point?

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Quote from: Lionel on November 11, 2018, 12:01:10 PM

Among all the Satoshi Nakamoto's identity theories, this is what i believe the most: https://bitcoinist.com/kaspersky-labs-co-founder-says-bitcoin-created-american-intelligence-agencies/

https://dollarvigilante.com/blog/2016/05/05/im-starting-think-cia-developed-bitcoin-still-love.html

https://metro.co.uk/2018/06/15/nsa-helped-invent-bitcoin-founder-worlds-second-largest-cryptocurrency-ethereum-claims-7631719/

That's why countries like Russia and China banned bitcoin, while USA is allowing it to prosper unhindered.

After all, if the gov hated bitcoin so much then it was very easy for them to take it down:
they may just arrest/blackmail the devteam/distributors of Bitcoin,
and/or block the bootstrap node IPs that the BTC wallets require to join the network when they are launched.

It would be that easy

That's only your theory and oppinion, as I know China ban bitcoin because it's government afraid that their peoole will move their wealth to outside country. there is no relation between CIA or NSA, even why one of them create a currency which be used by criminals in deepweb??.

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