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November 13, 2018, 06:57:12 AM
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Among all the Satoshi Nakamoto's identity theories, this is what i believe the most: https://bitcoinist.com/kaspersky-labs-co-founder-says-bitcoin-created-american-intelligence-agencies/
CIA and NSA become richest people on the world when real people who made bitcoin. so, you thing people here same agent and join signature campaigne?. i dont thing so
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November 12, 2018, 06:05:01 AM
#30
but the Alien Tech theory was more fun, man!
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November 12, 2018, 04:48:46 AM
#29

Bitcoin was not the development of the United States is nothing! Everyone knows that the Creator of bitcoin in the first one person who does not give his identity, which suggests that it is just an individual. Secondly, bitcoin is an Asian technology and the US will catch up with the Japanese on the speed of digital technology development for a long time.


Why do you think bitcoin is the creation of someone who is asian, given that you said yourself no one knows who the creator of bitcoin is? People have tried for years with all sorts of skillsets to identify where Satoshi was from and no one has succeeded. Of course Satoshi itself is Japanese but that does not mean the person behind the name was.
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November 12, 2018, 02:55:47 AM
#28
it will come down to your understanding of how bitcoin works!

in a decentralized peer to peer network you can not control, ban, manipulate, fake,... anything. it is not just about the project being open source (that only covers part of it) but it is about it being peer to peer. like torrents network, Tor network,... you can't ban these things anymore than you can ban bitcoin.
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November 12, 2018, 02:32:17 AM
#27
Where did the internet originate from? Wasn't it from U.S military communications? Doesn't matter where bitcoin came from, it is still solid
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November 12, 2018, 02:26:31 AM
#26

After all, if the gov hated bitcoin so much then it was very easy for them to take it down:
they may just arrest/blackmail the devteam/distributors of Bitcoin,

On what basis will they arrest people from many nations that are working on a OpenSource project? The thing is, most developers contribute to the project without being anonymous, but that does not mean that things cannot change. The moment when developers are harassed by governments, then people will start to contribute anonymously and the government will not be able to hunt them down.

Satoshi is a good example of this, because he/she/they are still anonymous.  Wink  You do not need to know who these people are, you only need to know that their code is legit and secure.  Wink
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November 11, 2018, 05:06:23 PM
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Among all the Satoshi Nakamoto's identity theories, this is what i believe the most: https://bitcoinist.com/kaspersky-labs-co-founder-says-bitcoin-created-american-intelligence-agencies/

https://dollarvigilante.com/blog/2016/05/05/im-starting-think-cia-developed-bitcoin-still-love.html

https://metro.co.uk/2018/06/15/nsa-helped-invent-bitcoin-founder-worlds-second-largest-cryptocurrency-ethereum-claims-7631719/

That's why countries like Russia and China banned bitcoin, while USA is allowing it to prosper unhindered.

After all, if the gov hated bitcoin so much then it was very easy for them to take it down:
they may just arrest/blackmail the devteam/distributors of Bitcoin,
and/or block the bootstrap node IPs that the BTC wallets require to join the network when they are launched.

It would be that easy
Is this a new conspiracy theory?
What is the benefit of the United States?
Will the United States be able to control it as it spreads?
Or is it a process without goals?
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November 11, 2018, 04:56:09 PM
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Among all the Satoshi Nakamoto's identity theories, this is what i believe the most: https://bitcoinist.com/kaspersky-labs-co-founder-says-bitcoin-created-american-intelligence-agencies/

https://dollarvigilante.com/blog/2016/05/05/im-starting-think-cia-developed-bitcoin-still-love.html

https://metro.co.uk/2018/06/15/nsa-helped-invent-bitcoin-founder-worlds-second-largest-cryptocurrency-ethereum-claims-7631719/

That's why countries like Russia and China banned bitcoin, while USA is allowing it to prosper unhindered.

After all, if the gov hated bitcoin so much then it was very easy for them to take it down:
they may just arrest/blackmail the devteam/distributors of Bitcoin,
and/or block the bootstrap node IPs that the BTC wallets require to join the network when they are launched.

It would be that easy

Bitcoin was not the development of the United States is nothing! Everyone knows that the Creator of bitcoin in the first one person who does not give his identity, which suggests that it is just an individual. Secondly, bitcoin is an Asian technology and the US will catch up with the Japanese on the speed of digital technology development for a long time.
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November 11, 2018, 04:53:54 PM
#23
Im not buying this conspiracy theory.

If the U.S agencies created it for their global operations to have access to funds,
How exactly would this work if they were undercover in Iraq or Afghanistan for
example? How exactly would bitcoin be used? To me it doesn't make sense.

If it was created by government agencies why are we using it? An open siurce,
unregulated, decentralised global currency giving power to the people.

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November 11, 2018, 04:45:08 PM
#22
No one know for sure if bitcoin was made by the CIA or NSA cause there's no proof to back it up and in this community we believe in proof. However, the only we heard and saw about Bitcoin was the white paper, source code and satoshi mail archive right before Bitcoin creation.
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November 11, 2018, 04:24:13 PM
#21
Among all the Satoshi Nakamoto's identity theories, this is what i believe the most: https://bitcoinist.com/kaspersky-labs-co-founder-says-bitcoin-created-american-intelligence-agencies/

https://dollarvigilante.com/blog/2016/05/05/im-starting-think-cia-developed-bitcoin-still-love.html

https://metro.co.uk/2018/06/15/nsa-helped-invent-bitcoin-founder-worlds-second-largest-cryptocurrency-ethereum-claims-7631719/

That's why countries like Russia and China banned bitcoin, while USA is allowing it to prosper unhindered.

After all, if the gov hated bitcoin so much then it was very easy for them to take it down:
they may just arrest/blackmail the devteam/distributors of Bitcoin,
and/or block the bootstrap node IPs that the BTC wallets require to join the network when they are launched.

It would be that easy

Don't know about you, but I think it's all a global conspiracy theory and bitcoin our weapons in the hands of the army of positive fighters against the corrupt government financial system. Yes, perhaps the US is the main owner of bitcoin, but the blockchain allows you to track this situation in real time. Everything is in our hands.
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November 11, 2018, 04:21:43 PM
#20
There aren't any real evidence that supports that theory... Even if there are why would they do it?

It makes no sense to me that government would want to create alternative currency...
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November 11, 2018, 04:11:51 PM
#19
bitcoin was made up as a patchwork quilt of idea's from cypherpunks group. which only one person had the inspiration to stitch together. the names are clearly available of all the parts that built up the quilt and its easy to see that nick szabo wei dai and others were not cia/nsa

when the first release occured the CODE was clear, in the open and had no secrets.
new coders came in and people knew hal finney, gavin, hearne, serius and others were not cia/nsa

however. years later (now) there is VC money puppetmastering devs and the NYA agreement of merchants.. its less clear where the puppet strings actually lead back upto.

as each level up the VC ladder it becomes less and less clear about the motives of those changing bitcoin.

its getting funny that things ar changing now. but all we see is distraction drama of making memes about non-coders of other networks and only look at the history.

seems strange that anytime discussion about current/recent events arise. the usual ploy of distraction finger pointing occur, even to such an extend that some resort to insults if people mention certain current recent events involving the groups that can affect the network. and again the ploy is just trying to distract the conversation to lead it away from the current/recent issues and instead turn it into some social drama or finger pointing away from the issue.
but this has only really started after 2013.. not 2008
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November 11, 2018, 03:30:33 PM
#18
I doubt if BTC was made by the CIA but there are some atom of truth that BTC can be a hand work of a professional body like secret service agents. If truly BTC is made by the CIA we should be seeing proofs of that already.
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November 11, 2018, 03:29:12 PM
#17
@QuestionAuthority You're right about cryptography and other tech stuff being useful for us.

But about Bitcoin, i feel it's something controlled by the gov, in that they they can:

- plug it off whenever they want, for the reasons i outlined at the end of my first post

- control its price via centralized exchanges like Bitstamp, Coinbase, etc. That's one of the things Natalya Kaspersky said

So i don't see BTC as a tool for monetary freedom anymore, as i used to do.
BTC is not value that is fully in our hands like gold/silver are.

It may be fun and useful for speculators and the many crypto-based applications that are coming out, for sure.

But it is not as "rebellious" against the monetary sovereignty as i thought it to be.

You do know that bitcoin is open source, right? Not just the wallet software but also the protocol that controls the network.

Correct.
Being open source lets the project be taken over by another team eventually.
But still, we don't have a solution for the ban on the bootstrap nodes.

Anyway, if the Cashless Society nightmare comes true one day, i certainly would not keep all my savings in crypto, but i would differentiate :
40% crypto, 40% gold & silver , 20% something else ( valuable goods or other things i don't know yet ).

When there is some degree of uncertainty on something, like the future of crypto , i think the best solution is to differentiate.
And precious metals , like it or not, are always one of the most popular options for the "preppers".



Open source means no one can take it over without someone seeing it.

You do know you already live in a cashless society, right?  Diversification is always a good idea.

Preppers are loonatics that watch too many zombie movies. Precious metals would have no value in a society free world. You want to prep? Store antibiotics, bandages and bullets.

Good luck with the whole certainty thing. Nothing is certain or guaranteed in life except death.
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November 11, 2018, 03:17:10 PM
#16
There had been too much speculation about bitcoin's origin but this is the most unlikely I think. It tries to paint Bitcoin in a negative light, but to me fails miserably.

What we actually know, is that US authorities did have an active involvement in advancing cryptography. If you try and connect that with Bitcoin (pretty weak connection if you ask me) then congrats detective. But just because part of an open technology Bitcoin used was supervised by authorities at it early stages doesn't mean much.
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November 11, 2018, 03:10:07 PM
#15
Theory says Bitcoin is a project of American intelligence agencies, which was designed to provide quick funding for US, British and Canadian intelligence activities in different countries. The technology is 'privatised,' just like the Internet, GPS and TOR. In fact, it is dollar 2.0. Its rate is controlled by the owners of exchanges.
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November 11, 2018, 03:09:18 PM
#14
lol. and what ? Should I stop using it now? Americans invented a lot of things, which takes 75% of your entire life.
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November 11, 2018, 02:58:09 PM
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But still, we don't have a solution for the ban on the bootstrap nodes.
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Banning the hard-coded seed nodes can't stop -seednode= or -connect= with a friend's IP on the command line
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November 11, 2018, 02:57:03 PM
#12
I have shared same suspicion in my many reasoning on why the bitcoin is allowed unhindered in the States. Nevertheless, if it's the CIA or the NSA that actually created it as the conspiracy theorem proposed, then they have done another wonderful job to the uplifting  of human lives. Boy!, this means even the task master "the government" love the people. No one can dispute the fact that the USA with the backing of the Jewish remains the greatest nation on earth.
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