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Quote from: Hi7 on April 03, 2016, 01:27:49 PM

Well most people buy altcoins with bitcoin, but I don't think it would influence the price too much.

True, as other coins are priced in Bitcoins and it's not Bitcoins which has anything to do with these alts...
Alts are subject to be priced in BTC based on their features, so it does not really affect the price of BTC at any cost...

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Bitcoin can live without relying on any other coin. The others are just copy cat versions of it and relies on it's success. The question should be if altcoins can survive without bitcoin. The answer is a no. There would not be altcoin interest without bitcoins success.

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Quote from: Hi7 on April 03, 2016, 01:27:49 PM

Well most people buy altcoins with bitcoin, but I don't think it would influence the price too much.

The exchanges operates and get the most(to not say all) of the profit from the altcoins market, the profit is low from the USD <-> BTC market, without altcoin i think that bitcoin or would have a higher price or a lower price.

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Well most people buy altcoins with bitcoin, but I don't think it would influence the price too much.

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Quote from: quentincole32 on April 03, 2016, 12:04:29 PM

Quote from: knowhow on April 02, 2016, 09:28:39 AM

Well how many of us made a good money with altcoins?Without them maybe we would be a 100 dollars value of 1 bitcoin,altcoins bringed several new investors as more users,the thing is if were just bitcoins i cant imagine currently just bitcoin would be amazing to see all the money into bitcoin and growing like no tomorrow,but i like some altcoins as well.

correct,in logical view,maybe bitcoin would be the only one crypto currency and will unbeaten,but actually not,as you said so many altcoin bring investor,and its make bitcoin more have good movement and better price of course.

If one good investor will invest good amount of money in altcoin it really can beat bitcoin with good staff and programmers.

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Quote from: knowhow on April 02, 2016, 09:28:39 AM

Well how many of us made a good money with altcoins?Without them maybe we would be a 100 dollars value of 1 bitcoin,altcoins bringed several new investors as more users,the thing is if were just bitcoins i cant imagine currently just bitcoin would be amazing to see all the money into bitcoin and growing like no tomorrow,but i like some altcoins as well.

correct,in logical view,maybe bitcoin would be the only one crypto currency and will unbeaten,but actually not,as you said so many altcoin bring investor,and its make bitcoin more have good movement and better price of course.

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Quote from: knowhow on April 01, 2016, 09:38:45 AM

Well altcoins made several people earn and keep making people earn insanes ammounts with it,soo thats why they keep and will always be.The main fact is all altcoins has the xxx/uᴉoɔʇᴉq .I believe if were only uᴉoɔʇᴉq we could see some manipulation at the uᴉoɔʇᴉq value ,and well less people thinking its a scam project,but well altcoins are supporting the uᴉoɔʇᴉq earnings.

I think altcoins just preventing bitcoin to evolve and grow maybe i am not right but that's what i am thinking.

With the help of alt coin bitcoin can integrate some part of other alt coins so that bitcoin can evolve in to a better coin.

the question is HOW

i don't think altcoins have any benefit for bitcoin, correct me if i am wrong but there has been no change in bitcoin that was caused by altcoins!

If there hasn't been any change or improvement in Bitcoin, dont blame altcoins. Alts have lead the way in more secure algos, faster and larger blocks. There has been the learning that comes from 3000 independent experiments that Bitcoin could been cherrypicking. Instead, Bitcoin is bogged down by stubborn in-fighting, those freakin' tiny & slow 10 minute blocks. There's a lot that Bitcoin could adapt and use from the altcoin world to improve itself, if it wasn't so institutionalized, paralyzed, and dominated by a few vested interests. Bitcoin will never last with its impractically slow confirmations. The world will simply move on one day without Bitcoin if it doesn't get its shit together and absorb the best of the altcoin experiments.

i never said there has been no change in bitcoin, there is a public change log and anybody can check to see the improvements over the years.

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Quote from: Akupuniard on April 01, 2016, 01:51:26 PM

I think altcoins just preventing bitcoin to evolve and grow maybe i am not right but that's what i am thinking.

No I don't think in such a way about the growth of altcoins. At times due to varying strategies altcoins profit high than bitcoin but this doesn't stop the growth of bitcoin.

I think alts are slowing bitcoin down a lot more than that.
one thing that is very common about altcoins are the fact that when they get added to an exchange, the price raises by a considerable amount.
now most of the time people can only buy newly added altcoins using bitcoins. so they buy small amount of bitcoins, trade said bitcoins with the new alt, alt gets pumped and multiplied their investments, then they cashes out to FIAT through bitcoin.

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I think its great to have altcoins around, some great innovations which if need be can be implemented in bitcoin. Also its great fun trading them sometimes and getting more bitcoin..... Grin

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Quote from: Akupuniard on April 01, 2016, 01:51:26 PM

Quote from: knowhow on April 01, 2016, 09:38:45 AM

Well altcoins made several people earn and keep making people earn insanes ammounts with it,soo thats why they keep and will always be.The main fact is all altcoins has the xxx/uá´‰oÉ”Ê‡á´‰q .I believe if were only uá´‰oÉ”Ê‡á´‰q we could see some manipulation at the uá´‰oÉ”Ê‡á´‰q value ,and well less people thinking its a scam project,but well altcoins are supporting the uá´‰oÉ”Ê‡á´‰q earnings.

I think altcoins just preventing bitcoin to evolve and grow maybe i am not right but that's what i am thinking.

No I don't think in such a way about the growth of altcoins. At times due to varying strategies altcoins profit high than bitcoin but this doesn't stop the growth of bitcoin.

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uá´‰oÉ”Ê‡á´‰q in general would be fine without altcoins, uá´‰oÉ”Ê‡á´‰q already was running when there were no altcoins and uá´‰oÉ”Ê‡á´‰q is the base and origin of cryptocurrencies, I don't think it will be the same-way around though, I doubt altcoins could sustain without uá´‰oÉ”Ê‡á´‰q that it can be bought and sold for.

Yeah, altcoin has nothing to do with the future of bitcoin, these are only rumors that bitcoin is due to altcoins, but these are only traders who want something to trade bitcoin with it.

Agreed. Nothing to do with altcoin, but Bitcoin has the potential to grow even at bad market times. As altcoins were the followers of bitcoin, there is no alts without bitcoin.

But alt coins helps bitcoin in making the market of crypto currency alive without alt coins the market is not that happy to trade with.

yeah, altcoin market is a nice place to make a good profit and make things interesting but i don't think everybody who is trading bitcoin-fiat is doing bitcoin-altcoin trading too.

so i don't think the effect of the altcoin market and keeping it alive as you put it, is totally true.

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Quote from: KennyR on April 03, 2016, 02:35:16 AM

Quote from: lixer on April 01, 2016, 01:32:10 PM

Quote from: Ardenyham on March 29, 2016, 02:06:39 PM

uá´‰oÉ”Ê‡á´‰q in general would be fine without altcoins, uá´‰oÉ”Ê‡á´‰q already was running when there were no altcoins and uá´‰oÉ”Ê‡á´‰q is the base and origin of cryptocurrencies, I don't think it will be the same-way around though, I doubt altcoins could sustain without uá´‰oÉ”Ê‡á´‰q that it can be bought and sold for.

Yeah, altcoin has nothing to do with the future of bitcoin, these are only rumors that bitcoin is due to altcoins, but these are only traders who want something to trade bitcoin with it.

Agreed. Nothing to do with altcoin, but Bitcoin has the potential to grow even at bad market times. As altcoins were the followers of bitcoin, there is no alts without bitcoin.

But alt coins helps bitcoin in making the market of crypto currency alive without alt coins the market is not that happy to trade with.

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Quote from: lixer on April 01, 2016, 01:32:10 PM

Quote from: Ardenyham on March 29, 2016, 02:06:39 PM

uá´‰oÉ”Ê‡á´‰q in general would be fine without altcoins, uá´‰oÉ”Ê‡á´‰q already was running when there were no altcoins and uá´‰oÉ”Ê‡á´‰q is the base and origin of cryptocurrencies, I don't think it will be the same-way around though, I doubt altcoins could sustain without uá´‰oÉ”Ê‡á´‰q that it can be bought and sold for.

Yeah, altcoin has nothing to do with the future of bitcoin, these are only rumors that bitcoin is due to altcoins, but these are only traders who want something to trade bitcoin with it.

Agreed. Nothing to do with altcoin, but Bitcoin has the potential to grow even at bad market times. As altcoins were the followers of bitcoin, there is no alts without bitcoin.

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Quote from: Akupuniard on April 01, 2016, 01:51:26 PM

Quote from: knowhow on April 01, 2016, 09:38:45 AM

Well altcoins made several people earn and keep making people earn insanes ammounts with it,soo thats why they keep and will always be.The main fact is all altcoins has the xxx/uᴉoɔʇᴉq .I believe if were only uᴉoɔʇᴉq we could see some manipulation at the uᴉoɔʇᴉq value ,and well less people thinking its a scam project,but well altcoins are supporting the uᴉoɔʇᴉq earnings.

I think altcoins just preventing bitcoin to evolve and grow maybe i am not right but that's what i am thinking.

With the help of alt coin bitcoin can integrate some part of other alt coins so that bitcoin can evolve in to a better coin.

the question is HOW

i don't think altcoins have any benefit for bitcoin, correct me if i am wrong but there has been no change in bitcoin that was caused by altcoins!

If there hasn't been any change or improvement in Bitcoin, dont blame altcoins. Alts have lead the way in more secure algos, faster and larger blocks. There has been the learning that comes from 3000 independent experiments that Bitcoin could been cherrypicking. Instead, Bitcoin is bogged down by stubborn in-fighting, those freakin' tiny & slow 10 minute blocks. There's a lot that Bitcoin could adapt and use from the altcoin world to improve itself, if it wasn't so institutionalized, paralyzed, and dominated by a few vested interests. Bitcoin will never last with its impractically slow confirmations. The world will simply move on one day without Bitcoin if it doesn't get its shit together and absorb the best of the altcoin experiments.

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Altcoins allows you to make easy and fast money something that bitcoin can give you but not those 20-60% that altcoins can give.

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Bitcoin is a currency and none of the currency depends on any other currency, but their strength is depended on its rate of adoption by the people and its regular circulation among the community. The more people accept it the more strength it adopt. So bitcoin is independent to altcoin or any othe crypto currency.

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Quote from: knowhow on April 02, 2016, 09:28:39 AM

Well how many of us made a good money with altcoins?Without them maybe we would be a 100 dollars value of 1 bitcoin,altcoins bringed several new investors as more users,the thing is if were just bitcoins i cant imagine currently just bitcoin would be amazing to see all the money into bitcoin and growing like no tomorrow,but i like some altcoins as well.

you are right. bitcoin prices may be high for the moment, but will be without altcoin, because as we all know altcoin always used for trading, but before it has altcoin, people buy bitcoin in advance, it may be one cause of the price of bitcoin, becomes very high

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Quote from: landoadog on April 02, 2016, 09:52:54 AM

Quote from: Akupuniard on April 01, 2016, 01:51:26 PM

Quote from: knowhow on April 01, 2016, 09:38:45 AM

Well altcoins made several people earn and keep making people earn insanes ammounts with it,soo thats why they keep and will always be.The main fact is all altcoins has the xxx/uᴉoɔʇᴉq .I believe if were only uᴉoɔʇᴉq we could see some manipulation at the uᴉoɔʇᴉq value ,and well less people thinking its a scam project,but well altcoins are supporting the uᴉoɔʇᴉq earnings.

I think altcoins just preventing bitcoin to evolve and grow maybe i am not right but that's what i am thinking.

With the help of alt coin bitcoin can integrate some part of other alt coins so that bitcoin can evolve in to a better coin.

the question is HOW

i don't think altcoins have any benefit for bitcoin, correct me if i am wrong but there has been no change in bitcoin that was caused by altcoins!

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Quote from: Akupuniard on April 01, 2016, 01:51:26 PM

Quote from: knowhow on April 01, 2016, 09:38:45 AM

Well altcoins made several people earn and keep making people earn insanes ammounts with it,soo thats why they keep and will always be.The main fact is all altcoins has the xxx/uᴉoɔʇᴉq .I believe if were only uᴉoɔʇᴉq we could see some manipulation at the uᴉoɔʇᴉq value ,and well less people thinking its a scam project,but well altcoins are supporting the uᴉoɔʇᴉq earnings.

I think altcoins just preventing bitcoin to evolve and grow maybe i am not right but that's what i am thinking.

With the help of alt coin bitcoin can integrate some part of other alt coins so that bitcoin can evolve in to a better coin.

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