I think XT will be succesful in some way, even if the fork does not even happen: In pushing a blocksize increase.
I feel that many people are nowadays supporting a bigger block size due, in part to the XT move.
And I am not pro XT by any means. But that is my perception.
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http://blog.blockchain.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Industry-Block-Size-letter-All-Signed.pdf
As per example.
It's not my problem if the Core team live in an Ivory tower.
As per example.
It's not my problem if the Core team live in an Ivory tower.
You managed to put the two in one post
Splendid! Now read this again: ivory tower.
Then lookahere:
http://blog.blockchain.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Industry-Block-Size-letter-All-Signed.pdf
What "large group of the market"? Reddit? This forum?
How are they qualified to understand and determine what a "timely manner" ought to be? If you had read Hayek you'd realize this is exactly what he is talking about. A group of sheeps electing a totalitarian leader because they couldn't wait for due process to unfold and required actions only because they thought they knew better.
You pretending that a bunch of noise is relevant because it's noisy should not reflect on the decisions of professionals.
How are they qualified to understand and determine what a "timely manner" ought to be? If you had read Hayek you'd realize this is exactly what he is talking about. A group of sheeps electing a totalitarian leader because they couldn't wait for due process to unfold and required actions only because they thought they knew better.
You pretending that a bunch of noise is relevant because it's noisy should not reflect on the decisions of professionals.
Speaking of "noise", your post is pretty much the standard par of oxymora perpetuated lately.
Open source software has no totalitarian leaders. Neither the developers of core nor XT have any real "power" and there are no dictators. Stop spouting the "it's open source but only core devs can propose code changes" oxymoron.
If the only people whose opinions mattered were self-appointed "professionals", you wouldn't be here trying so hard to convince people. Stop spouting the "it's only consensus when I agree with it" oxymoron.
Open source values changed based on technical merits. XT proposed changed based on a political agenda.
Stop confusing a fork for a governance coup.
It was clear that XT was made only to make a drop on the price, i want to see if they bough some btc and now that it's value is raising are selling them
Xt drop the price ??I noticed that meanwhile the xt was debated, bitcoin was always red, now that is rekt is getting value again. Anyway is what i think because drops of the size we saw for are aren't normal
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OP, all I see from your graphic is Bitfury supports Bip 100.
But whatever, as long as we get bigger blocks and Blockstream
is cockblocked from keeping the 1mb in place, I'll be happy.
Don't really give a rat's ass one way or the other about XT.
But whatever, as long as we get bigger blocks and Blockstream
is cockblocked from keeping the 1mb in place, I'll be happy.
Don't really give a rat's ass one way or the other about XT.
Blockstream, or its developers, never argued for permanent 1mb. I thought I taught you to shut your mouth when you were ignorant of facts?
Did you not read my post on your thread clearly highlighting the benefits of larger blocks for sidechains?
They stonewalled the increase for years (and continue to do) , same thing.
They want the 1mb to be in place for their lightening payment network.
It was clear that XT was made only to make a drop on the price, i want to see if they bough some btc and now that it's value is raising are selling them
Xt drop the price ?? 
Time to zap Gavin's alert key in the next release (I assume but to not know that it is still there.) A discussion on replacement(s) should be undertaken.
I would like just to confirm that the alert key is there. I as well have thought about this (as I have defended him in the past). The decision of keeping it should be re-evaluated.
Judging from the miners vote right now, BIP100 is gaining traction while XT is going to 0% (even Slush abandoned it).
I defended the guy for years past his 'best before' date. My bad. Believe it or not I have to be pretty confident about the rottenness of someone or something before I really open up on them/it.
If Gavin planned to foster good-will in doing his early facet stuff as a PR stunt, it was one of the most brilliant moves in Bitcoin history. I still doubt that he did and still feel it mostly likely that his elevation was one of those accidents of caprice. And also that if Bitcoin survives him it will be one of the epic saves of all time.
I've never supported Gavin and made that clear for years. Oh, not for intellectual or philosophical reasons but because he looks like one of those kids I used to beat up in high school. lol
Do you have evidence for this?
Where have you been the last few weeks?
Here.
I, for one, never saw any core developers sponsor or condone the work of theymos or his mods, you know, the ones actually responsible for the
What "large group of the market"? Reddit? This forum?
How are they qualified to understand and determine what a "timely manner" ought to be? If you had read Hayek you'd realize this is exactly what he is talking about. A group of sheeps electing a totalitarian leader because they couldn't wait for due process to unfold and required actions only because they thought they knew better.
You pretending that a bunch of noise is relevant because it's noisy should not reflect on the decisions of professionals.
How are they qualified to understand and determine what a "timely manner" ought to be? If you had read Hayek you'd realize this is exactly what he is talking about. A group of sheeps electing a totalitarian leader because they couldn't wait for due process to unfold and required actions only because they thought they knew better.
You pretending that a bunch of noise is relevant because it's noisy should not reflect on the decisions of professionals.
Speaking of "noise", your post is pretty much the standard par of oxymora perpetuated lately.
Open source software has no totalitarian leaders. Neither the developers of core nor XT have any real "power" and there are no dictators. Stop spouting the "it's open source but only core devs can propose code changes" oxymoron.
If the only people whose opinions mattered were self-appointed "professionals", you wouldn't be here trying so hard to convince people. Stop spouting the "it's only consensus when I agree with it" oxymoron.
It's clear now XT is destiend to disappear and the fork will not happen,
This is yet to be seen if Core delivers something satisfactory in time.
How on earth giving choice to the market can be considered as dictatorship? The censorship going on on /r/bitcoin IS dictatorship.
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Time to call Bitcoin XT what it is: the biggest fail in altcoin history
Dude still don't understand how XT works. K.
I suggest you read Hayek's Road to Serfdom.
Totalitarianism under the urge to follow a "strong" leader by steering the sheeps against a "common enemy" is not giving choice to the market. It is politics of the worst kind.
Aaaaand how Core devs ignoring a large group of the market asking for scalability solution in a timely manner is not totalitarianism?
What "large group of the market"? Reddit? This forum?
http://blog.blockchain.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Industry-Block-Size-letter-All-Signed.pdf
As per example.
It's not my problem if the Core team live in an Ivory tower.
It was clear that XT was made only to make a drop on the price, i want to see if they bough some btc and now that it's value is raising are selling them
OP, all I see from your graphic is Bitfury supports Bip 100.
But whatever, as long as we get bigger blocks and Blockstream
is cockblocked from keeping the 1mb in place, I'll be happy.
Don't really give a rat's ass one way or the other about XT.
But whatever, as long as we get bigger blocks and Blockstream
is cockblocked from keeping the 1mb in place, I'll be happy.
Don't really give a rat's ass one way or the other about XT.
Blockstream, or its developers, never argued for permanent 1mb. I thought I taught you to shut your mouth when you were ignorant of facts?
Did you not read my post on your thread clearly highlighting the benefits of larger blocks for sidechains?
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OP, all I see from your graphic is Bitfury supports Bip 100.
But whatever, as long as we get bigger blocks and Blockstream
is cockblocked from keeping the 1mb in place, I'll be happy.
Don't really give a rat's ass one way or the other about XT.
But whatever, as long as we get bigger blocks and Blockstream
is cockblocked from keeping the 1mb in place, I'll be happy.
Don't really give a rat's ass one way or the other about XT.
Do you have evidence for this?
Where have you been the last few weeks?
Time to zap Gavin's alert key in the next release (I assume but to not know that it is still there.) A discussion on replacement(s) should be undertaken.
I would like just to confirm that the alert key is there. I as well have thought about this (as I have defended him in the past). The decision of keeping it should be re-evaluated.
Judging from the miners vote right now, BIP100 is gaining traction while XT is going to 0% (even Slush abandoned it).
It would be a mistake to get rid of the alert key. And it is clear that the alert key has not been misused in the past.
Considering the necessity for miner's consensus, and considering how many miners are still using prehistoric versions of QT, we need a way to contact them.
Gavin has not done squat for years (thankfully as much of his work when he was active was useless and counterproductive) and is now basically a pariah to most people who understand the XT hostile takeover attempt event. There is no compelling reason for him to have an alert key and there are risk associated with him having it. If he supports another hostile takeover attempt the key could be mis-used to burn a lot of innocent people.
More #REKT
Hey. XT did light the fire under people to get something decided. We need bigger blocks, and the Core developers only care about selling themselves to Blockstream.
So give XT the respect it deserves!
So give XT the respect it deserves!
Do you have evidence for this?
How does that work? You do understand Blockstream (sidechains) benefits from larger blocks?
Do you also understand that there are more than just the "Blockstream people" that are opposed to overly large blocks?
The only certain thing is that core developers and supporters started a censorship campaign for quite some time now, when you see things like reddit post disappearing, censorship in the forums, etc, suspicions get raises.
Do you have evidence for this?
Time to zap Gavin's alert key in the next release (I assume but to not know that it is still there.) A discussion on replacement(s) should be undertaken.
Judging from the miners vote right now, BIP100 is gaining traction while XT is going to 0% (even Slush abandoned it).
It would be a mistake to get rid of the alert key. And it is clear that the alert key has not been misused in the past.
Considering the necessity for miner's consensus, and considering how many miners are still using prehistoric versions of QT, we need a way to contact them.
Hey. XT did light the fire under people to get something decided. We need bigger blocks, and the Core developers only care about selling themselves to Blockstream.
So give XT the respect it deserves!
So give XT the respect it deserves!
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