Topic: Bitcoinica MtGox account compromised - page 2. (Read 156012 times)
Does death punishment apply to minors in China?
Come on, you can't say it's a "bitcoin bug" the fact that so many "bitcoin-banks" have failed. It is really unfortunate and even tragic to some, but it is not a "bug".
It's not a "bitcoin bug" in the sense that it's a bug in bitcoin itself. It's a "bitcoin bug" in the sense that it's a defect in the ecosystem.Yes? Somebody called me?
(sorry, couldn't resist
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I have posted a statement:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/statement-about-the-suspect-of-recent-bitcoinica-hack-95795
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/statement-about-the-suspect-of-recent-bitcoinica-hack-95795
New evidence shows that zhoutong is the hacker.
After Bitcoinica MtGox account compromised ,zhoutong sell LR in China.
日期:2012-7-12
Ryan(11853074) 20:03:18
6.2出LR，财付通付款
Ryan(11853074) 20:13:06
要多少有多少
Ryan(11853074) 20:13:12
我帮一个朋友出的
Ryan(11853074) 20:14:06
1万美元之内都没什么问题
Ryan(11853074) 20:17:18
LibertyReserve
And zhoutong's LR account is :
http://cnbtcnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/zhongtongLRaccount.jpg
zhoutong said The hacker registered a Liberty Reserve account U9236056 at Jul 12, 2012 9:42 PM.
So now everyone knows zhoutong is the hacker!!!
After Bitcoinica MtGox account compromised ,zhoutong sell LR in China.
日期:2012-7-12
Ryan(11853074) 20:03:18
6.2出LR，财付通付款
Ryan(11853074) 20:13:06
要多少有多少
Ryan(11853074) 20:13:12
我帮一个朋友出的
Ryan(11853074) 20:14:06
1万美元之内都没什么问题
Ryan(11853074) 20:17:18
LibertyReserve
And zhoutong's LR account is :
http://cnbtcnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/zhongtongLRaccount.jpg
zhoutong said The hacker registered a Liberty Reserve account U9236056 at Jul 12, 2012 9:42 PM.
So now everyone knows zhoutong is the hacker!!!
And the fact that using Bitcoins requires me to do something that's incredibly difficult to do right is a serious problem.
I agree. That's why I don't yet recommend bitcoin to non-technical people. At least not in any sensible amounts.
I do believe though it's just a matter of time until the resources necessary to overcome such problem are available.
Come on, you can't say it's a "bitcoin bug" the fact that so many "bitcoin-banks" have failed. It is really unfortunate and even tragic to some, but it is not a "bug".
It's not a "bitcoin bug" in the sense that it's a bug in bitcoin itself. It's a "bitcoin bug" in the sense that it's a defect in the ecosystem.Quote
Most people, even professionals, don't really know how to secure critical private data. Even Sony lost lots of its private data once. Is it really such a surprise that small companies, however motivated they are, fail in something that big companies with tons of money to spend in security have also failed?
No, it's not. And the fact that using Bitcoins requires me to do something that's incredibly difficult to do right is a serious problem.With fiat currency, banks are insured. If it's stolen, I can call the police and they at least understand the issue.
It just sucks that the Bitcoin world is so screwed up you basically have to stuff your money in your mattress
That's actually a feature, not a bug. Don't trust the bank, keep your money with you
Come on, you can't say it's a "bitcoin bug" the fact that so many "bitcoin-banks" have failed. It is really unfortunate and even tragic to some, but it is not a "bug".
Most people, even professionals, don't really know how to secure critical private data. Even Sony lost lots of its private data once. Is it really such a surprise that small companies, however motivated they are, fail in something that big companies with tons of money to spend in security have also failed?
The main "problem", if you will, is that in bitcoin, differently from the "fiat world", your private data is your money. But that's also an advantage of the system, in some situations.
Plus, an equally serious adoption problem is that it is *very* hard to properly create and manage a secure wallet.
Agreed. But again, that's not that easy to solve either.
I expect these dedicated devices like bitcoincard and Ellet to be a huge contribution into solving this issue.
It just sucks that the Bitcoin world is so screwed up you basically have to stuff your money in your mattress
That's actually a feature, not a bug. Don't trust the bank, keep your money with you
Plus, an equally serious adoption problem is that it is *very* hard to properly create and manage a secure wallet.
I was sure just about anyone sees it as a great plus, that you *can* securely stuff all coins in your mattress. On paper, on a usb drive, engraved in stone, in an encrypted email. That, for me, is one of the key features (among others). You don't have to, though. With results one can observe now, and could observe several times in the past.
On the contrary. It is now pretty simple and reasonably secure to create and manage a secure wallet. No matter if offline/paper (bitaddress.org) or cold (armory) or hot (encryption). It still involves more clicks, more live-cd-booting, more planning and more thoughts than a regular bank account, paypal, or buying bullion.
And yet, to me it seems a million times more secure and reasonable than those!
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It just sucks that the Bitcoin world is so screwed up you basically have to stuff your money in your mattress
That's actually a feature, not a bug. Don't trust the bank, keep your money with you
Plus, an equally serious adoption problem is that it is *very* hard to properly create and manage a secure wallet.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/public-statement-regarding-bitcoinica-account-hack-at-mtgox-95738
+11111111111
I hope they start locking his account on this forum. There is a lot of incriminating evidence on all this posts over the last year.
Uh, how would that help even if there was 100% proof?
How would it not help? A few pages back he entered the LastPass account again without authorization.
It probably doesn't matter much at this point considering no one is going to trust bitcoinica with money anymore, but if a company doesn't bother to change passwords after hacks it's worth noting.
I don't think you followed the link, those accusations would be called embezzlement, money laundering, and wire fraud. After this those previous 'hacks' could be called into question as well.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/public-statement-regarding-bitcoinica-account-hack-at-mtgox-95738
+11111111111
I hope they start locking his account on this forum. There is a lot of incriminating evidence on all this posts over the last year.
Uh, how would that help even if there was 100% proof?
How would it not help? A few pages back he entered the LastPass account again without authorization.
It probably doesn't matter much at this point considering no one is going to trust bitcoinica with money anymore, but if a company doesn't bother to change passwords after hacks it's worth noting.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/public-statement-regarding-bitcoinica-account-hack-at-mtgox-95738
+11111111111
I hope they start locking his account on this forum. There is a lot of incriminating evidence on all this posts over the last year.
Uh, how would that help even if there was 100% proof?
How would it not help? A few pages back he entered the LastPass account again without authorization.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/public-statement-regarding-bitcoinica-account-hack-at-mtgox-95738
+11111111111
I hope they start locking his account on this forum. There is a lot of incriminating evidence on all this posts over the last year.
Uh, how would that help even if there was 100% proof?
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/public-statement-regarding-bitcoinica-account-hack-at-mtgox-95738
+11111111111
I hope they start locking his account on this forum. There is a lot of incriminating evidence on all this posts over the last year.
Nothing makes me feel more safe than the sweet sound of words like, "Javascript in the browser."
I run NotScripts in Chrome, and NoScript in Firefox.aye, noscript, noadd, https everywhere, and tls 1.0, 1.1 and ssl 2.0 UNchecked in any browser. amongst other things. DropMyRights, or similar app to reduce your browser or any other internet facing apps user privledges from administrator..
oh, and
Nothing makes me feel more safe than the sweet sound of words like, "Javascript in the browser."
I run NotScripts in Chrome, and NoScript in Firefox.
Nothing makes me feel more safe than the sweet sound of words like, "Javascript in the browser."
Its possible to login to your account via the website without downloading/installing anything. Therefore the password does get sent to their servers. Not that any of this is entirely relevant to the situation...
I don't think you're correct there. LastPass doesn't even know my password. Javascript on the browser is used to authenticate my login.
Quote from: http://helpdesk.lastpass.com/
[...] LastPass employs localized, government-level encryption (256-bit AES implemented in C++ and JavaScript) and local one-way salted hashes to give you complete security with the go-anywhere convenience of syncing through the cloud. All encrypting and decrypting happens on your computer - no one at LastPass can ever access your sensitive data.
[unless you paste the master password into your source code and leak it to the world].
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